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Kindle Fire Seen Slowing Some Previously-Planned iPad Purchases
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Originally Posted by trip1ex
I agree that the tablet category does not need to be more than a surfing machine.
But the Fire is 7". All the more reason to not get one if you already own an iPhone.
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90% of what you do can be done on an iPod Touch too.
That is funny because that was my point too.
Originally Posted by trip1ex
I agree that the tablet category does not need to be more than a surfing machine.
But the Fire is 7". All the more reason to not get one if you already own an iPhone.
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90% of what you do can be done on an iPod Touch too.
That is funny because that was my point too.
$199 kindle fire vs $199 ipod touch. unless people need to buy apple, the Fire is the better choice here
I totally agree. I have my Fire pre-ordered. I don't need everything the iPad has and I have an
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The media LOVES causing a stir.
The media LOVES big news stories and saying it's a Kindle vs. iPad generates stories for them.
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It's true the Fire can do all that but there are significant road blocks because the Fire heavily depends on it's cloud service and there is only 8GB internal storage.
As far as apps go, there is no way the Kindle Apps can compete w/ the ones on iTunes b/c of the Fire's hardware. It's like drag racing a VW Beetle 2.0L vs a BMW 335i. The quality and capabilities of some of the more complex iOS apps just isn't going to happen on a Fire.
Magazines - I suppose it will depend on whether you have to buy the sub on Amazon or if you can bring your own via Zinio. I had a lot of paper subs when I got the iPad and asked the publisher if I could get the electronic version instead. They switched me over to Zinio or their own iOS App.
The Fire looks like a great product to be sure. But it's a different class of tablet from the iPad. That is why they don't directly compete.
you can buy a chinese brand x 7" android tablet with similar specs as the Fire for $169. I don't think amazon is losing any money on them except for the development costs they spent
From this list, Apple only competes in the laptop market ... sure, they make monitors too, but they only cater to folks with Macs.
Apple makes quite a tidy profit selling "premium" laptops.
Right now, the iPad is not positioned as a "premium" product. It's priced very competively against the other ~10" tablets in the market. Are there more affordable tablets? Of course, the Nook Color and the Fire will attack that segment of the market (along with the Samsung 7 and 8.9" tabs. Will Apple follow suit? Who really knows. Apple has, in the past started out with the higher-tier end of the market and after sucking up all of the oxygen in the market, turned their attention to the lower-end of the market. They've done this with both the mp3-player market and the smartphone market. In both instances, they've done very well.
We just don't know how Apple will address the lower-end of the tablet market. Will they sell last-year's model at a $100-150 discount? Will they introduce a smaller tablet with fewer/downgraded features? Will they bump the iPod touch screen size up? Will they do nothing and leave the low-end, low-margin market for the "others" to fight for?
For those who say that you can't compare the two I disagree.
For those who are in the market for a tablet and are eyeing the iPad because other tablets are similarly priced, so would prefer to get the iPad for various reasons (it is a proven popular product, it fits in their apple ecosystem, they don't know any better, etc). They may know that that an iPad is overkill for their needs, but would still like a tablet. And they can only afford one such toy.
So they wait till they can afford the iPad. Then along comes the Fire, it is more affordable and more consistent with their needs. (Also may have other advantages: smaller form factor, ability to thumb-type, etc). Therefore they opt to buy the Fire and forgo their plan to buy the iPad.
Yes, different device, but in the "same market".
P.S. I wish Apple would have a 7" for some reasons: iPod Touch is too small to read scholarly articles.
For those who are in the market for a tablet and are eyeing the iPad because other tablets are similarly priced, so would prefer to get the iPad for various reasons (it is a proven popular product, it fits in their apple ecosystem, they don't know any better, etc). They may know that that an iPad is overkill for their needs, but would still like a tablet. And they can only afford one such toy.
So they wait till they can afford the iPad. Then along comes the Fire, it is more affordable and more consistent with their needs. (Also may have other advantages: smaller form factor, ability to thumb-type, etc). Therefore they opt to buy the Fire and forgo their plan to buy the iPad.
Yes, different device, but in the "same market".
P.S. I wish Apple would have a 7" for some reasons: iPod Touch is too small to read scholarly articles.
Well there's a reason why some might opt for the Fire vs an iPad as well. a 7" device - while likely not pocketable - is easier to purse/manbag than the ipad. Or just hold in your hand during your commute.
LMFAO. You must be joking.
This is the kind of nonsense you hear from someone who really can't/doesn't/won't understand the whole of the Apple ecosystem. Amazon has nothing to compare to. They have a website, where you can buy em pee threez. Big deal.
i see more people with kindles on the NYC subway than ipads. A LOT of people with ipods, especially Nano's.
if all you want to read is books on the way to work plus some light movie watching and other media consumption you can't go wrong with a kindle. and the kindle selection is awesome
Nook is better but B&N are marketing morons and that product will die
love my ipad and iphones but for a lot of people the kindle is just right. even for a lot of iphone owners. a lot of people don't spend any money on music or very little at all. so lack of itunes is not a big deal
if all you want to read is books on the way to work plus some light movie watching and other media consumption you can't go wrong with a kindle. and the kindle selection is awesome
Nook is better but B&N are marketing morons and that product will die
love my ipad and iphones but for a lot of people the kindle is just right. even for a lot of iphone owners. a lot of people don't spend any money on music or very little at all. so lack of itunes is not a big deal
This just in.
People like small TVs in kitchens and bedrooms, like a 26" LCD.
People like large TVs in theater rooms and living rooms, like a 42" HDTV
People hate carrying large devices on trains, buses, etc.
While a product market is maturing, there is much money to be made by improving the products. When it becomes commodity, then they move on to the next product market. This isn't a shock to Apple, but basic business.
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Hmmm
Unless you fully buy into the Amazon ecosystem (or until the Fire has a minimum of 32GB of space) the Fire just is not that compelling for any kind of robust user.
8GB is really about 6GB and there is not a lot of space unless all of your music and videos are bought on Amazon.
I love my ipad, but I'd consider a Fire if it had more storage. To me this is it's fatal flaw...if you can call it that...because I know it will sell well.
I don't think the average buyer knows how limiting this storage issue will be until they take it home and use it for a while.
Unless you fully buy into the Amazon ecosystem (or until the Fire has a minimum of 32GB of space) the Fire just is not that compelling for any kind of robust user.
8GB is really about 6GB and there is not a lot of space unless all of your music and videos are bought on Amazon.
I love my ipad, but I'd consider a Fire if it had more storage. To me this is it's fatal flaw...if you can call it that...because I know it will sell well.
I don't think the average buyer knows how limiting this storage issue will be until they take it home and use it for a while.
Reality. The Fire is a cheap piece of dirt, that just happens to have a color display that is large in size. That is the only aspect of it that is "comparable" to the iPad. Evidenced by the never-ending industry of absolutely horrible digital picture frames, there are markets for products that are total crap, and mimic the functionality of real products.
The reason this product is so cheap by comparison to the iPad....is because its not remotely the same. Nothing about it is similar. Components suck, performance suck, applications suck.
In short, it sucks.