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Kuo: 2020 iPhones to Have Redesigned Metal Frame Similar to iPhone 4
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Just call it iPhone 5G Pro/Pro Max and iPhone 5G. I’m not sure how they would name the phones after that, but it would at least solve 2020
They are absolutely made of sapphire with high levels of impurities, and the effect of those impurities is to reduce the scratch resistance, which is the point of the sapphire in the first place.
Apple have found a way to lower their costs while being able to advertise a premium component, and all it takes is misleading their customers.
Since the iPhone 4 Apple has been on a 4-iteration cycle. You can pick apart the differences but these machines share a similar design language
The ice cream sandwich:
4, 4S, 5, 5S
The rounded edges design:
6, 6S, 7, 8
Notch:
X, XR/S, 11, and probably 12.
Now if this report holds water then that follows right into that 4-iteration pattern. The 8 came together in the same year with the $999 X design and the 12 should be the last notch design phone and it’ll come together with the ice cream sandwich v2 (which may still contain a notch) design debuting as the next $999 machine.
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The real perfect phone would be the SE getting the X treatment. Entire front is screen, faceID, etc. I would pay the $1000 premium.
Apple’s iPhone 7 camera lens uses pure sapphire despite test claims
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Huh?
Apple uses impure sapphire so they can have the name "sapphire" but without the cost and scratch resistance of high quality sapphire
You’re basing your assumption on a video with a guy who scratched a phone at a level 3 instead of 6 because he used dirty/worn tips. I’ve never had a single camera lens scratched on my iPhones or other phones while glass backs/screens have been riddled with them.
The 4/4S was my favorite iPhone design ever; really, the newer iPad Pros take their design cue from the 5/5S line - and that's most likely how the next iPhone redesign will look.
I still think that there's a strong chance that 2020 will be a fourth year of the X design with 5G & reverse-wireless charging, and then 2021 will be the hyped hardware redesign with little/no notch, USB-C, and in-screen TouchID (if Apple really does release such a thing).
I still think that there's a strong chance that 2020 will be a fourth year of the X design with 5G & reverse-wireless charging, and then 2021 will be the hyped hardware redesign with little/no notch, USB-C, and in-screen TouchID (if Apple really does release such a thing).
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the important part in all of this though, is that in real-world daily use, iPhone camera lens’ and Apple watches with sapphire crystals generally don’t get scratched.
The conditions in a YouTube video that sets out to deliberately scratch something are artificial by nature. (YouTube video business model is purposely sensational to drive clicks/views).
Wow they're really stretching out the sizes, going significantly smaller than the 8 / 11 Pro and bigger than the 11 Pro Max.
Would think this would drive more people to the middle 6.1 size depending on prices / differences of course.
Would think this would drive more people to the middle 6.1 size depending on prices / differences of course.
I just wait to se how your "solid, weighty and expensive feeling phone" will survive when you drop it on the street. Mine didn't.
I also stopped carrying my phone when I go running after 5/5S since everything after that was too heavy for my sportswear, but I guess I can count that as a good thing.
My iPhone 7 Plus with 3 GB RAM and iOS 13 and I will be happily waiting for this 5G iPhone 2020.
I will have to see the final specs before I decide on the 6.1" OLED vs. the 6.7 OLED, but hopefully the 6.1" will finally have a much better pixel density than the 11 and XR.
I will have to see the final specs before I decide on the 6.1" OLED vs. the 6.7 OLED, but hopefully the 6.1" will finally have a much better pixel density than the 11 and XR.
It's undeniably to suspect that someone working at is having some sort of campaign not to make a new model of iPhone without the evil notch.
The iPhone has been on a 3 year cycle since the iPhone 6/6s/7. They all used the same body design. Note that there was no 7s, it went straight from 7 to 8 while there was a parallel launch of the X. The same for the X/Xs/11.
There will probably not be an 11s. Instead, next year’s phones will be iPhone 12, iPhone 12 Pro and iPhone 12 Pro Max — though I think it’s time for Apple to drop the numbering scheme and just go with iPhone and iPhone Pro.
Yes the point of the test is to keep increasing the hardness of the scratches and measure the failure point. That's a valid test. Just like a bend test isn't supposed to prove an iPad can bend but to check how easy or difficult it is to bend.
The result is that Apple's (high impurities) sapphire scratches like glass whereas other manufacturers' (low impurities) sapphire is much more scratch resistant.
Some on here claim their lenses are protected from micro-scratches whereas the other glass is not. That's good but Apple advertises scratch resistance not "micro-scratch" resistance. Also, in the case of the front glass it's usually the oleophobic coating that gets messed up not the actual glass.
Apple charges premium prices so should be held to standards at least equal to other manufacturers not lower ones.
iPhone numbering seems to be losing its significance. The iPhone 11 pro could be seen as the third iteration of the iPhone X form factor. So next year’s iPhone could mark the start of a new design. It will probably be called the iPhone 12 at any rate.
Actually the iPhone has been more like 4 year cycles: 4/4S/5/5S I consider essentially the same design (albeit a small rev for the 5/5S), 6/6S/7/8 = same design, the X was sped up & released to due to compete with no-bezel phone competition and the iPhone anniversary.
As I earlier posted, I expect the new redesign in 2021; 2020 I bet is a 11S with 5G, reverse-wireless charging, and some AR camera stuff.
I think you meant “an exposed square-edged STAINLESS STEEL frame sandwiched between two panels of strengthened glass”
Jony Ive's design for the iPhone 4 was the first smartphone to introduce the concept of an exposed squared-edged aluminum frame sandwiched between two panes of strengthened glass - a design that has been variously copied in the smartphone industry.
It's about time Apple return to the greatest iPhone design (and smartphone) ever made.
The two biggest things I'm looking forward to for the 2020 iPhones is the redesign and the 5.4" premium iPhone.
The two biggest things I'm looking forward to for the 2020 iPhones is the redesign and the 5.4" premium iPhone.