I think 4 models being offered it too confusing. Each year Apple ditches the previous year's Pro model and one of their lowest end model usually in the second quarter. Just give us two models with various storage configurations. I think the mini won't return. It's not popular.
The upcoming 2022 iPhone lineup will feature two 6.1-inch devices and two 6.7-inch devices, with no mini-sized 5.4-inch iPhone, well-respected Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said in a note to investors that was seen by MacRumors. Two of the iPhones will be high-end models and two of the iPhones will be lower-end models, similar to the current iPhone 12 lineup.
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Kuo: 2022 iPhones to Feature 48-Megapixel Camera, 8K Video, and 6.1 and 6.7" Sizes With No 5.4" Mini Option
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Of course you aren't, you have a max. Thanks for expressing glee at our expense. You're awesome bro.
I too believe like others that 1) covid and not being to experience these first-hand and 2) the upsell quotient to the more expensive and larger models caused sales issues. It was marketing, pure and simple, not demand.
The battery life issue is overblown and way too many people are keying in on this, when this phone gets more battery life than any iPhone did for the first 6-7 years of its existence, with top shelf processors and 5g. Few actually 'need' it, it's just some spec they complain about. I dunno... maybe get all the all-day social media addiction? Using your phone for 6+ hours daily is insane.
Phone sizes have gotten ridiculous. That the smallest sized phone is 6.1" is crazy sad. You have to be 6'4"+ with 10" wide hands to use it fully one handed (by fully one handed, I don't mean with a shuffle - anyone claiming otherwise is full of it). I don't get it. There should be a market for something more compact. If not 5.4" maybe ~5.7"
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Who uses phones just one-handed all the time these days? People do have two hands after all.
No, but one thing I've noticed is that often the highest resolution doesn't really look like that highest resolution. Drop down a resolution and it looks great.
eg. When phones were 1080p, 1080p kinda looked half-assed, but 720p looked great. Then at 4K, 4K kinda looked half-assed, but 1080p looked great. I suspect that once phones are 8K, 8K will look half-assed (at least compared to proper 8K), but 4K will look great.
It's not that simple of course, but I'm sure you get what I mean.
They might physically last into the 2030's but they might have any OS or apps to run.
At the some point.....not too far into the distant future, it will be the standard....at this point 4K is basic
II think that it realistically comes down to the benjamins.......do they sell enough of them to run and production line of them? Low volume parts purchases get more expensive proportionally.
My take as a Camera App Dev:
NONE of this Next-Gen Camera stuff matters to 99% of those who own an iPhone !
IMO, ONLY "Under Glass TouchID" has a chance to move the needle !
Meaning, it is the ONE & ONLY product attribute that could spur an increase in iPhone Unit Sales.
Apple would be wise to limit the fancy Camera stuff, & instead, offer more-reasonably-priced iPhones moving forward.
BTW, I did a Deep Dive into the 48 Mpx image sensors about six months back; my conclusion back then is the same as it is now, Higher-Res Pixel Binning solutions is NOT the way to go !
Would prefer Apple R&D stick with 12 Mpx image sensors & focus on improving image sensor Read Noise instead, which is the BIG industry challenge !
If they did that, they could go to 12-bit color (at speed) !
Simply put, 12 Mpx with 12-bit color depth, & with a max capture rate of 60 fps, should be their primary goal !
Much less expensive solution, & better too !
NONE of this Next-Gen Camera stuff matters to 99% of those who own an iPhone !
IMO, ONLY "Under Glass TouchID" has a chance to move the needle !
Meaning, it is the ONE & ONLY product attribute that could spur an increase in iPhone Unit Sales.
Apple would be wise to limit the fancy Camera stuff, & instead, offer more-reasonably-priced iPhones moving forward.
BTW, I did a Deep Dive into the 48 Mpx image sensors about six months back; my conclusion back then is the same as it is now, Higher-Res Pixel Binning solutions is NOT the way to go !
Would prefer Apple R&D stick with 12 Mpx image sensors & focus on improving image sensor Read Noise instead, which is the BIG industry challenge !
If they did that, they could go to 12-bit color (at speed) !
Simply put, 12 Mpx with 12-bit color depth, & with a max capture rate of 60 fps, should be their primary goal !
Much less expensive solution, & better too !
48mp and 8K video. Just what we all need. I'm getting more-and-more disgusted with what's being offered to consumers everywhere these days. Why doesn't Apple put more money into straightening out its software instead of unneeded "gee whiz" features that are of limited practical use?
I intend to see what is available (or upcoming) at the time just before the last mini is discontinued, then I may buy, because I just paid a lot for the 12 mini.
It seems like a lot of people are complaining about the camera advances as insignificant and not important to the average consumer. Perhaps so. But not really. The cameras on smart phones have become very important as a competitive factor btwn manufacturers. And I am not just saying that because I am a photographer and have used the iPhone as my main camera for the last few years. But because the camera has become an indispensable part of social media for the masses. The famous saying “the best camera is the one you have with you” has never been more true. People depend on it for social interaction. And with VR soon to be added to the mix, camera advances are essential to keep up with the competition.
As a photographer, I of course welcome any camera improvements. Better low light performance Being high on my list. I just love the versatility of having such a device that is so much more than a camera in my pocket. 3 lenses. Incredible video as well as stills. The ability to edit on it, and then immediately post it online. Amazing. Such a great creative tool.
And i like how it is making regular people who never thought of themselves as artists, more creative.
As a photographer, I of course welcome any camera improvements. Better low light performance Being high on my list. I just love the versatility of having such a device that is so much more than a camera in my pocket. 3 lenses. Incredible video as well as stills. The ability to edit on it, and then immediately post it online. Amazing. Such a great creative tool.
And i like how it is making regular people who never thought of themselves as artists, more creative.
Who said anything about all the time? Having it as an option is certainly nice. Was just using it one-handed just a minute ago. One arm around the lady, phone in the other hand.
The camera is the number one reason for me to upgrade a phone actually. If the camera setup on the 12 Pro had been the same as the 12 Pro Max, I might have bought the 12 Pro. But it's not, so I got the 12 Pro Max. Damn you Apple and your upselling! The 12 wasn't even a consideration, and thus neither was the mini (which I consider too small anyway).
For photos now I use my phone 99.9% of the time, and my dSLRs 0.1% of the time.
Well, I will defer to your expertise, but I will say going from a 7 Plus to a 12 Pro Max was an ENORMOUS improvement in picture quality. Like night vs... night. As in low light performance of the 12 Pro Max is in a completely different league.
I get what you're saying about the pixel size and what not, and yes some of that is due to computational photography as opposed to the native characteristics of the sensors, but it's still a huge improvement nonetheless.
Agreed. The camera is a big selling point for me. I like always having a great camera in my pocket. It comes in handy as a parent to be able to capture photos/videos of my kids at a moment’s notice. I also love taking landscape photos whenever I’m out and about.
I agree. Even tho i prefer the Max size, both pro models should definitely get the same features. From what i understand, Apple will do that with the next iphone Pros. I guess they got a lot of complaints. I also rarely use my dslr now. There will always be specific things i grab my dslr for, like wildlife photography & sports photography. But i too use my iPhone most of the time.
That’s not the issue. At all. The issue with the mini is battery life over time.
Everyone who dislikes having to think about whether their phone battery will last the day will be wary of buying the mini.
Which is unfortunate as the form factor is great.
Me. And guess what: I also have two hands.
One perfectly fine option for me would be if they would go to a 2-year cycle for the Mini. Also 3 years. Just please don’t take away the mini again.
I am still happily using my iPhone 8 but looking very much forward to upgrade to a Mini.
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At the specification the Kuo says the sensor for a 48MP camera at 4/3 ration is 6000x8000 sensors.
At the same pixel size as the iPhone 12Pro sensor that means that the sensor will be 13 mm wide. About 4x as big as the current 12 Pro Max.
I don't see Apple reducing each pixel size since it would make it much less sensitive to light.
At the same pixel size as the iPhone 12Pro sensor that means that the sensor will be 13 mm wide. About 4x as big as the current 12 Pro Max.
I don't see Apple reducing each pixel size since it would make it much less sensitive to light.
It's not glee at all. I have a Max because I'm the target market for a Max (I have bigger than average hands). I never wanted a Mini, ever.
I'm just calling out folks that repeatedly asked for a Mini and ended up not buying it/returning it. The sales simply have not reflected the clamoring for it. And there are lots of posts even in here from people that returned their Mini after begging for it. Can't blame Apple for this one.