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Kuo: 2022 iPhones to Feature 48-Megapixel Camera, 8K Video, and 6.1 and 6.7" Sizes With No 5.4" Mini Option
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The 12 mini is my tenth smartphone. I had six Androids.
"Tiny screen."
I see anybody who says that as talking out of their behinds. After five months with the 12 mini. There is no compromise here. It's so similar to my old XS.
It is a COVID victim because everyone's at home, pure and simple.
"Tiny screen."
I see anybody who says that as talking out of their behinds. After five months with the 12 mini. There is no compromise here. It's so similar to my old XS.
It is a COVID victim because everyone's at home, pure and simple.
The hatred of the mini from some folks on here baffles me.
I don't think it is hatred. I think its just tiring hearing the whining over and over again and the constant excuses (oh it because of covid, its because there isn't a pro model) and delusions. It completely takes over this board.
Nothing against the mini, I bought one last year (decided to stick with the XS in the end though).
Current rumors claim the next form factor for the SE will be the XR/11, coming in 2023. So it‘s not going to be a small phone either.
A lot can happen in three years time. If there’s a market for a small iPhone - and over two million combined sales of the Mini and SE in January suggests there may still be - Apple will provide something. If not, maybe the Apple Watch will be ready for stand-alone duty by the middle of this decade.
You realize the Mini in the name refers to the size, not the price. Considering it has all the exact same features as the 12, but slightly smaller, the price is completely in line with the rest of the iPhone lineup. It the Mini's price is too high, so are the prices of the rest of them.
What is your theory then? What research led them to apparently massively overestimate Mini demand?
I’ll be getting a 13 mini before they’re discontinued if this is actually the case. Won’t buy another iPhone for at least 3 years after that. Going to keep a mini as long as possible.
So what features would you like them to have cut to lower the price?
+1. Or at least given the lens. It's a big number that's meaningless when using a relatively tiny lens - that's the constraint on image quality.
Definitely agree. My wife has one. Even as a 12 Pro Max user I was surprised to find that I like the mini and could be happy with one.
Rear camera array, Face ID, 5G if necessary. Even the OLED screen.
I am all in on a minimalist iPhone with whatever features it takes for profitability. I bought a Mini because I wanted a small, all screen iPhone, but I am happy to give up the aforementioned features if that's what's necessary.
Basically, take the hardware of the current SE, put it in the Mini form factor, and switch to power-button Touch ID (or under screen Touch ID once that is viable).
Sales will have doubled!
Unfortunately there are people who think you or them will instantly drop dead on the spot. Had it happen to me at Costco the other day. Had a cart full of stuff, employee walks by, see‘s my gator slip down and just had to say something. 🙄
That’s what she said. (Couldn’t resist.)
Ya, that was a dumb move by Apple.
Blaming Apple for something that didn’t exist (COVID) when the phone was in development is kind of silly don’t you think?
TouchID was a relic of the past, regulated to lesser devices. Only something as silly as a bad case of the flu has brought TouchID back to the discussion table. Unfortunately it will be back probably in this year’s devices.
I think Kuo may be considering a new iPhone SE that will have a smaller display than the 6.1" iPhone models.
You’re not wrong, but it goes to show that in general, as a whole, (not counting MacRumors/tech forums), people don’t flock to Mini phones. They go for either the cheap option (in this case would be the SE or last year’s 11 even) or the premium option.
The Mini was in a weird spot. It was technically a high-end device priced at $699, but when taking a look at the lineup as a whole, it was more of a mid-range device? Yet the name “mini” almost implied that it was a low-end device. I’ve heard multiple times from friends and family “Why would I get the mini when the regular 12 is just $100 more?” Its anecdotal sure, but it just seemed like the mini was too close in price to the 12.
I don’t want to say the Mini had an identity crisis exactly... but it was literally a phone designed for a single, small target market: people who like high-end, mini phones.
It’s clearly the least popular iPhone model based on sales right now which confirms that the “mini phone” crowd is not nearly as big as some people on here would like to claim.
I personally don’t want to see the Mini go away either- having 3 different screen size options is great for the customer IMO. But I also can’t fault Apple for discontinuing the “iPhone Mini” line if it failed to meet expectations.
48 megapixel camera with 2.5x optical zoom? nobody needs 48 megapixels on a mobile camera, good optical zoom on the other hand...
So basically you wanted the new SE that's rumored to be coming out. That wasn't the target demographic for the mini. That's the target demographic for the SE. One of them is for consumers who buy based on price, the other for consumers who buy on features. If the mini would have been as you described, you'd have lost a different segment of users and had two phones with substantial market overlap.