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Kuo: 2025 Apple Vision Pro to Get M5 Chip and Apple Intelligence
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I was intelligent enough not to even contemplate purchasing one in the first place. Considering this product's pricepoint and claims for what it can do and potentially do, I think updating it after a year with little content released is taking the pee a bit. When you've got iPads, Macs, AirPods and HomePods going multiple years without an update, I think they could offer this with what is supposedly a flagship product. A more positive release would be a mainstream Apple Vision that has a much wider market reach IMO.
I know everyone makes fun of VisionPro (and even the name itself is awful, IMO) but I really hope Apple double down here and just swallow their pride at the muted reception and continue to pour R&D into this and ultimately end up making something truly astonishing in the next five years. And by 'truly astonishing' I mean 'really useful' and technologically mind-blowing.
But the outer display isn't "see thru". It has cameras to let you see the real world. With out that, it is just a VR ski mask now. Apple was going for spatial computing.
Apple no longer has the appetite for this type of long term investment. Look at the car. If anything the AVP will disappear in a couple of years because it does not make enough quarterly profit. Thank you very much Mr. Cook.
I don’t think it’s the M2 that is responsible for most of the battery usage on the AVP.
this is probably true, but this has always been Apple’s strategy. with such a complex and unique product like this I think it was more wise for them to start out super high end and expensive to test the waters / gauge interest.
they don’t have to worry about tens of thousands of repairs or demos because it’s such a small amount of people buying.
then as it gets smaller and they’ve learned more then they can make them cheaper, more accessible etc and their stores and corporate will be more equipped to handle anything that comes.
I agree entirely but hope that this product can be an exception to the rule. Everyone knows what they released was basically a crazy-priced prototype. There is still hope with this I think. Maybe it needs a different Exec in charge.
The price isn’t its main problem.
People keep saying this but it’s such a cheap display it can’t even be fraction of the cost and the glass is to dissipate heat
Why does Apple feel increasingly like the Android/Intel/Microsoft that they have mocked for years.
Apple uses to look down, ignore, and outright overlook spec spec discussions and now it seems like it’s a central part of most product updates :/
AI is still a gimmick right now. The M2 is perfectly capable of AI but I fail to see hiw AI would drastically improve this device. The hardware needs an overhaul out of the beta it is today for it to do anything in the market in the future. Upgrading the internals alone will just piss off the people who did buy it like me… if they want to keep the currentl design they should remove the processing entirely and make it tether off a Mac or iPhone which can be upgraded . No one wants a quickly obsolete $3500 paperweight
Not on visionOS there aren’t.But now there are alternatives store
The M5 upgrade makes a lot of sense and will enhance AR/VR experiences for AVP users.
Regarding all of the expected (and sadly, typical) negative comments above that have nothing to do with the story, AVP isn't for everyone, including you. Relax.
Instead... try and be happy for others who use AVP, some for personal use, and some in professional environments/applications.
Regarding all of the expected (and sadly, typical) negative comments above that have nothing to do with the story, AVP isn't for everyone, including you. Relax.
Instead... try and be happy for others who use AVP, some for personal use, and some in professional environments/applications.
Yeah, that never happens with technology.
Apple introduced the Lisa in 1983 for $9995, which would the equivalent of $31,590 in 2024 dollars. The Macintosh came out a year later at $2495. The Lisa had much more RAM at 1MB, a bigger 12 inch black and white screen, and even a 5MB hard drive, so it certainly isn't a perfect comparison.
But Apple did introduce a Lisa 2 in 1984, as well, for $3495. I believe that $3495 got you a 400KB floppy, 512 KB RAM, a 5 MB hard drive, and that fabulous 12 inch black and white screen, which suddenly makes the $3499 AVP sound not so bad to me when I think back to the 1980s.
“Entering mass production” doesn’t mean launch. Based on the present rumor, I would expect the AVP 2 to launch in January 2026, two years after the first model.
Glass has very low thermal conductivity, you don’t use it to dissipate heat.
The Quest 3 doesn't deserve that hate, as it is actually quite impressive hardware, and even more impressive if you factor in the price. As much as I'm not a fan of Facebook, my soul did at least provide a pretty good price, though I guess I should have held out another 9 months to get the 512 GB for the same cost 😀.
They have done some pretty decent upgrades to the software, though they still have a long road to go, but at least it does do a passable AR passthrough now. They still need to add multi-room, though, unless I'm missing something (actually, it seems like it might be working for the OS itself, but the apps still seem to want to reset if I change rooms.). For the money, though, it is quite amazing how far they have come since I got the Rift DK1.
Very true, although I think the wider market are a bit more tech aware these days and know what they expect, rather than be told what they should expect. Then again with Vision Pro, I don't think Apple aimed it as mainstream consumers.Yeah, that never happens with technology.
Apple introduced the Lisa in 1983 for $9995, which would the equivalent of $31,590 in 2024 dollars. The Macintosh came out a year later at $2495. The Lisa had much more RAM at 1MB, a bigger 12 inch black and white screen, and even a 5MB hard drive, so it certainly isn't a perfect comparison.
But Apple did introduce a Lisa 2 in 1984, as well, for $3495. I believe that $3495 got you a 400KB floppy, 512 KB RAM, a 5 MB hard drive, and that fabulous 12 inch black and white screen, which suddenly makes the $3499 AVP sound not so bad to me when I think back to the 1980s.
This is utterly hilarious! They won’t admit defeat, the product is loss making and nobody wants it
While I agree the price needs to be reduced by 60%, what other features do you expect from a polishing cloth?
My main concern with the Vision Pro was that for such an expensive purchase, the chip was already dated, plus, the M2 was not much of an upgrade from the M1. Having said that, it was also a first-gen Apple product in a completely new category with a dearth of apps for it. The new chip may push me to pull the trigger on it next year. Hopefully, there will be a wider ecosystem for it by then. The Vision Pro is not going anywhere. People who think so need to get checked.