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He said it during the iOS 15 event, leading people to assume there also be a MacBook Air announcement. And people posted on Twitter upset. MacRumors themselves posted on him saying so.
Anybody who thought that is stupid. Kuo clearly said 2022 for MacBook Air.

Nobody in the right mind believed there would be any MacBook announcement in September.

You can't provide a link to back up your B.S. either.
 
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OLED is cheap. Don't fall for the Korean marketing machine.

Lenovo sells an 11" OLED tablet for less than iPad Air. So does Samsung.
You keep claiming it’s cheap but it’s not. Shouldn‘t OLED TV be cheaper than miniLed?
 
Yeah that’s what I’m saying. It’s so flip-floppy. Didn’t he predict new MacBook Airs earlier in the year. People sold their Macs over his certainty. I wonder if those people went back and bought that same MacBook Air, or did they get a cheap PC.
AFAIK, Kuo never predicted new MacBook Airs for this year. He claimed new 14" and 16 MacBook Pros, with a new form factor.
 
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To be fair they are probably some of the best LCDs you can get on tablets, just lack some of the feature of mini led and the OLEDs on offer. For example HDR (to my knowledge isn’t supported on the LCDs)
HDR has been supported on the Pro LCDS since the 10.5 in 2017.
 
You keep claiming it’s cheap but it’s not. Shouldn‘t OLED TV be cheaper than miniLed?
 
Perhaps that should specify "good" mini-LED TVs. :p Because there are some truly atrocious mini-LEDs out there.
 
You already showed me this back in April it proved nothing. MiniLED is still LCD technology just with more dimming zones. Those supply chain analysts are not always correct. Just look at Kuo he’s just BSing one after another.
 
I get migraines with OLED so this news means I get at least another year of reprieve.

Happy I'll be able to get TouchID, LED flash, 5G and Logitech Crayon support on a 10-11" class iPad. Wish it would come with more RAM and at least a 512GB option but based on the mini 6, I'm not really counting on it.
 
Perhaps that should specify "good" mini-LED TVs. :p Because there are some truly atrocious mini-LEDs out there.
MiniLed have still long way to go in terms of number of dimming zones for TV. They look good in daytime but watch in complete darkness still can’t compared to oled, not even close. Cheap stuff.
 
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You already showed me this back in April it proved nothing. MiniLED is still LCD technology just with more dimming zones. Those supply chain analysts are not always correct. Just look at Kuo he’s just BSing one after another.
As far as I know, in the case of mini LED, they have to place each LED individually on the panel, one at a time, for millions of pixels just to get one unit out of the conveyor belt.
 
You already showed me this back in April it proved nothing. MiniLED is still LCD technology just with more dimming zones. Those supply chain analysts are not always correct. Just look at Kuo he’s just BSing one after another.
No, they aren't 100% correct, but it's obvious from his predictions that Kuo has very deep insight into the Apple supply chain. His predictions aren't just guesses of general features, but predictions based on very, very specific supply chain information. For example, a good example of this was the prediction of loss of 3D Touch in iPhones. The reason he gave was not because he felt 3D Touch was unpopular. The reason he gave was because of supply chain information that specific modules destined for Apple no longer supported this feature. IIRC, this prediction was well over a year in advance.
 
You already showed me this back in April it proved nothing. MiniLED is still LCD technology just with more dimming zones. Those supply chain analysts are not always correct. Just look at Kuo he’s just BSing one after another.
LOL.

If the data disagrees with you, then it "proves nothing."

The DSCC analyst team includes people who have served as VP at Samsung, Director at Viewsonic, and OLED engineers from TCL and LG.Philips.

They know far more than you do.

 
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I get migraines with OLED so this news means I get at least another year of reprieve.

Happy I'll be able to get TouchID, LED flash, 5G and Logitech Crayon support on a 10-11" class iPad. Wish it would come with more RAM and at least a 512GB option but based on the mini 6, I'm not really counting on it.
You can at least expect more RAM. They've never refreshed the Air without also adding more RAM.

The Mini 6 got more RAM than its predecessor (Mini 5) too. Just not more than the Air 4.
 
There would have been to much overlap with the iPad pro if they did this. Bean counter move.

i wonder when they will upgrade the Apple Watch. Lol jk
 
So, Samsung Galaxy S line will remain the best tablet line out there (at least for media consumption which is the prevalent use case for the tablets)
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Getting harder and harder for me to be motivated to upgrade ANYTHING Apple this year.

Would have upgraded one of my iPads to something OLED, now.....meh.

I went into the summer expecting to upgrade my 11PM, Mini 5, and even my AW6. Same for my GF with her XS max and AW3, now......we "might" get the 13PM around the holidays, if at all.

News like this doesn't help to motivate me.

From "I have to have the latest and greatest" to "what I have works so well I'll just.....not" in 2 short years.
First world problems or capitalism in action.
 
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Apple plan their devices many years in advance, but plans can change based on technology innovation, and supply line issues. Personally I believe that Apple wanted an OLED display for a forthcoming tablet and put the tender out to Samsung (and maybe LG). Samsung then came back with a display proposal using the single stack OLED but for whatever reason, Apple wanted the tandem stack (better lifetime, higher brightness) but could reach agreement with Samsung on pricing, thus Apple walked away. Who knows, perhaps Samsung will suddenly capitulate and meet the price point Apple is demanding and the OLED iPad is back on.

I was worried about OLED burn-in on largely static displays such as laptops and tablets, but they have been out long enough now to see that that isn't such a concern (probably due to pixel shifting and voltage adjustment) so the only thing lacking is brightness compared to LCD. The miniLED iPad can hit 1600 nits for small portions of the screen and 1000 nits full screen brightness. I have no doubt that an OLED could hit 1000 nits for highlights (the iPhone 13 Pro hits 1200 nits peak), but would struggle for full screen brightness - I would much rather have the per pixel control and lack of blooming of OLED compared to any LCD technology.
 
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MiniLED is excellent so far after using my M1 iPad Pro all these months. Big step up from LCD with true blacks and with no risk of burn-in.
It’s still IPS LCD cell, only the backlight has changed from edge-lit diffused LED to direct-lit miniLED. VA LCD cell with miniLED is even better than IPS with MiniLED as we have seen in TV’s. Apple should have gone for that instead.
 
Sounds to me if the display standard remains the same then all Apple can do with the iPad Air is put the A15 SoC in it when they launch in 2022 (say, March?)

What they would have then is effectively an iPad mini Max in a variety of colours. This would make the Air still not good value next to all the tech in an M1 11" Pro - given that the smart connector may not be of too much interest. Although maybe that's the point?

What they could use to get it closer to the 11" Pro could be something like:

A. 128Gb base storage (along with 256Gb option) like the iPhone 13 and iPad Pro.
B. LiDAR Scanner? Cases would remain compatible.
 
Apple plan their devices many years in advance, but plans can change based on technology innovation, and supply line issues. Personally I believe that Apple wanted an OLED display for a forthcoming tablet and put the tender out to Samsung (and maybe LG). Samsung then came back with a display proposal using the single stack OLED but for whatever reason, Apple wanted the tandem stack (better lifetime, higher brightness) but could reach agreement with Samsung on pricing, thus Apple walked away. Who knows, perhaps Samsung will suddenly capitulate and meet the price point Apple is demanding and the OLED iPad is back on.

I was worried about OLED burn-in on largely static displays such as laptops and tablets, but they have been out long enough now to see that that isn't such a concern (probably due to pixel shifting and voltage adjustment) so the only thing lacking is brightness compared to LCD. The miniLED iPad can hit 1600 nits for small portions of the screen and 1000 nits full screen brightness. I have no doubt that an OLED could hit 1000 nits for highlights (the iPhone 13 Pro hits 1200 nits peak), but would struggle for full screen brightness - I would much rather have the per pixel control and lack of blooming of OLED compared to any LCD technology.
Since nits(cd/m2) is a light density measure and not a raw light output measure, it is very easy for high ppi phones to get really bright in nits. And on the other hand you have oled TVs that can do 150 nits 100% window and 700 nits 1% window. Oled laptops can only do like 300-400 nits, it is unlikely they will be able to hit 1000 nits peak in a tablet with one stack. With two stacks, maybe. But you still need 1000 nits 100% window sustained to grade hdr. Note, a scene that has one 1000 nit flash for 1 second will require 1000 nits sustained on the grading device to grade properly. Hence oled is never making its way into the iPad Pros. And burn in is still a big concern. So much so, that the new more durable LG evo panels are tuned to reduce burn in over getting brighter, despite their pathetic brightness.
 
How come you assert your opinion as a matter of fact on things you don’t have the slightest clue about then?
You're kidding right? I have devices with OLED and I know for a *fact* that they don't cause me eyestrain or tiredness.

Can you point me to a study that makes this untrue for you?
When you're talking about yourself and *nobody else*, stating what it does to you is okay. For general population, yes, a study is needed to know for sure. And even then it doesn't change anything for my eyesight, but I probably would warn others that it might effect them that way if they asked my opinion.
 
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