Yeah, next time I go shopping I'll think about those poor corporations trying to make it instead of what I need. Just like a lot people around here, it seems.
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Kuo: Apple to Launch 'iPhone SE 2' in Early 2020 With Similar Design as iPhone 8, A13 Chip, and 3GB RAM
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At this point I'm more interested in that rumoured 5.4" premium iPhone than a refreshed SE.
iPhone 8 has a bunch of expensive features not intended for the SE crowd, most of which are price sensitive. 3D Touch, wireless charging, DCI-P3 and TrueTone.
It's pretty easy to complain here - people liked the SE because it is a tiny phone that didn't really sacrifice much in terms of features (at the time.) The 8 is only relatively small now because the 11 is huge.
Can you point me to a survey that shows the proportions of people that want 4", 4.7", 5.5", 5.8" or 6" smartphones?
It's easy to say that big sells...when most smartphones these days are big. People don't have the choice to buy much that isn't big.
Maybe I'm unusual, but I like the fact I can use the 4" SE with one hand. My hands haven't grown since 4.7" and above phones became the norm so therefore I still like the SE.
That’s not what I’m saying and I understand what you want. But Apple isn’t going to make a 4” iPhone to satisfy a minuscule market when emerging markets want big phones.
Don’t come at us like that, *******. We will not stop complaining and we won’t shut up. For many of us, this is not the upgrade we wanted.
Well yeah. If it's not in a 5/5S/SE chassis, it's not wanted.
I went from a 5s to a 6s Plus then back to an SE based on the size of the SE.
Being much cheaper than the 6s Plus that I sold ended up being a bonus.
That's obviously the assumption, but is it correct? Right now, we really don't know because the small-phone option is severely dated and hardly being marketed (compared to Apple's other offerings). It's very possible that people would want small phones if they featured cutting-edge technology and were marketed by Apple as something other than a niche product.
That valuable survey data is what phone manufacturers pay tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars for.
Actions speak louder than words. Either every single smartphone manufacturer in the world including Apple is wrong and there’s a huge untapped demand for small phones. Or they’re right that’s why nobody makes small phones in 2019.
Well, yea, because I wanted what the SE originally was, the power and design of the flagship in a smaller unit. So was hoping for an 11 pro design that was much easier to use single handed and pocketable.
For us it's all about price. If it ends up getting the internals of the current gen (which is what the original SE effectively did) it's going to see 4-5 years of support.
Personally if I'm buying an iPhone 8 I'm buying used. Apple's asking price for an iPhone 8, which is going on three years old in terms of hardware, is too high imo.
my guess, and this is just a guess, is that when this launches it replaces the iPhone 8 for Apple. It becomes an iPhone 8 with current gen internals possibly at that same "new" iPhone 8 price point.
All these rumours of a refreshed SE sound more like a refreshed iPhone 8.
If the "refreshed" SE doesn't retain the two most important parts about the SE; the size and the headphone jack, then it ain't no SE.
If the "refreshed" SE doesn't retain the two most important parts about the SE; the size and the headphone jack, then it ain't no SE.
Exactly. Apple hasn’t realized (or doesn’t think it worth realizing) that there are two different markets using the SE: those who want a cheaper iPhone and willing to forgo features and those willing to pay what it takes for the best iPhone possible in a small form factor. The latter are generally people who always have their larger MacBooks or iPad Pros with them and thus have no desire for a large screen and clunky interface in their pockets.
Yep! that's why I bought the SE and kept it until the XS came out. It was extremely small, lightweight, and was really powerful for the time. The only flaw I had with it was over time, dust would creep into the camera lens. What Apple should do is create an X the size of the SE, but that's just my crazy wish.
I feel like it's difficult to hop on an enthusiast forum and gauge what the actual market is doing. There are a lot of people here that likes the SE for its size? Does that reflect the actual market?
I always respond with the assumption that Apple has done some level of market research, at least more than anyone on this forum has.
It’s not just Apple, no other manufacturer in the world is making small phones. Is the entire phone industry wrong? Every single manufacturer received and acted on wrong marketing and survey data?
Maybe they don't? Maybe it replaces the 8 when it launches.