they should have gone with the smaller enclosure like the iphone SE and then edge to edge which would give large display in small enclosure.
If the SE people wanted a iPhone 8 sized SE, they would likely have bought an iphone 7/8.
Really I am holding the 4" and 4.7" and there are ridiculously small.Not at all lol. All five of them are complaining that this thing is too big.
I don't imagine they will keep the SE nomenclature at all.I can see the new name clearly: iPhone proSE. The SE for professionals.
If you look at the market, very few people want small phones. In both emerging and developed countries, big sells. Now that Apple has media streaming services, their lineup needs to be all big phones. To be honest 4.7” is still very small from a 2020 perspective.
I feel like both of your questions are very similar. To answer them, in short, I don't know. I just bought myself a new SE off eBay to upgrade to 128GB as there just aren't any other phones that interest me. Hopefully it will tide me over another 2-3 years like the last one did. By then maybe we'll all have headsets with AR and phones will remain in our pockets so it won't really matter how big they are...Ask yourself this question.
If Apple doesn't meet this demand for this subset of people who want a 4" phone, will those individuals never buy an Apple phone again?
I think the answer is no.
That 10m in projected sales (I realize it's a made up number on your part but let's roll with it); will it drop to zero if they don't make this form factor? Will people jump ship? Again, I think not.
they already have lol
Maybe not.I feel like it's difficult to hop on an enthusiast forum and gauge what the actual market is doing. There are a lot of people here that likes the SE for its size? Does that reflect the actual market?
I feel like comments like these miss what people, at least those I speak to, like about the SE...the fact that it’s small, not that it’s cheap! An SE based on an iPhone 8 is just a cheap big iPhone. If I wanted that I’d buy the iPhone 8 that’s already on the market.
I think a lot of that projection has to do more with the phone meeting a price point than a size requirement.If you believe Kuo, they will sell 30-40 million which its not nothing.
Well yeah. If it's not in a 5/5S/SE chassis, it's not wanted.
SE was always sold from a price perspective, not size.
SE was always sold from a price perspective, not size.
This is exactly right. The SE crowd loves the fact that they can reach almost the entire screen with their thumb while holding the phone in one hand without stretching too hard - a benefit Jobs alluded to when he introduced that form factor. The 6/6s/7/8 form factor is just too big to have that same benefit.
Indeed, the 6/6s/7/8 form factor is no smaller than the X/Xs/11 form factor. So the SE2 wouldn't be a smaller iPhone, but just a cheaper one.
That said though, some in family use an SE as their primary phone and iOS updates have not been kind to that screen size and resolution. Things just don't fit as well as they did with older versions of iOS - much more scrolling is required.
not appealing to me unless it's smaller than the 7, 8, 9, X, Xs, 11, 11 pro.