I believe the 8 Series will be discontinued to be succeded by this new “SE” model and perhaps the Xr too... The lineup will be conformed by the SE at $499, 11 $699 & 11 Pro $999.
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Kuo: Apple to Launch 'iPhone SE 2' in Early 2020 With Similar Design as iPhone 8, A13 Chip, and 3GB RAM
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A true iPhone SE "2" is going to be smaller than the iPhone 8. The iPhone 8 is too big.
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So what? That (debatable point) doesn’t refute what I said. You said that this can’t be the SE because it’s too big? You know SE stands for “special edition” and not “small edition” right? They could make a 7” iPhone SE. That’s my point. I’m sorry if you don’t like/want an iPhone 8 sized iPhone SE, but Apple can make whatever they want. Yes, size was one (potentially very important, especially here at MR) aspect of the original SE, but when looked at more objectively it’s pretty clear that from Apple’s perspective the SE was simply an old frame at a lower price.
still might be too large for some, but I'd probably be content especially if the full screen is 16:9.
I'm not sure if we have the rumored or confirmed 5.4" chassis size, but the iphone 6-8 chassis specs are just about right for the potential 5.4" screen.
Height: (13.83 cm) 5.44 inches
Width: (6.71 cm) 2.64 inches
Many people don't feel cheap by opting for a smaller iPhone and it makes sense to produce one with roughly an iPhone 8 screen size without the bezel.
Apple plans to release a lower-priced "iPhone SE 2" in the first quarter of 2020, according to noted analyst Ming-Chi Kuo.
In a research note with TF International Securities, obtained by MacRumors, Kuo said the device will feature a similar form factor design and specifications as the iPhone 8, with a faster A13 chip and 3GB of RAM:Kuo believes the "iPhone SE 2" will be the "best upgrade choice" for an estimated 100 million remaining iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus users, serving as a "key growth driver" for Apple in 2020. He believes these customers have low desire for new features like Face ID and multiple cameras, suggesting the "iPhone SE 2" will stick with Touch ID and a single-lens rear camera.
Kuo's prediction lines up with multiple other sources that have claimed Apple plans to release a new lower-cost iPhone 8-esque device next year, including the Taiwanese publication Economic Daily News, Japanese publication Nikkei Asian Review, and Bloomberg's Mark Gurman and Debby Wu.
Those earlier reports indicated the device will sport a 4.7-inch display and a Touch ID home button like the iPhone 8. Apple continues to sell the iPhone 8 from $449, while the iPhone SE was $349 prior to being discontinued. When new, the iPhone 8 and iPhone SE started at $399 and $699 respectively.
Article Link: Kuo: Apple to Launch 'iPhone SE 2' in Early 2020 With Similar Design as iPhone 8, A13 Chip, and 3GB RAM
Apple giving people what they want with this phone, yet so many will still complain 🤦♂️
The thinness / lightness obsession resulted in the iPhone 6 Plus "bendgate" issues and the Butterfly keyboard issues on the MacBook / MacBook Pro. Now Apple is finally changing course with the Mac as the discontinuation of the MacBook shows, and we should be seeing some larger-screen MacBook Pros soon.
Because not everyone has the same sized hands as you and some people like to be able to easily use their phone one handed.
No!!! if they're going to release a 'smaller' 'budget' phone then make it the same size as the 5/SE was! The iPhone 8 is already almost as big as the 11Pro which for many ppl is still larger than desired.
If you think that a tweaked iPhone 8 will appeal to those attracted to the SE then it doesn't seem like you understand why people were drawn to the SE in the first place.
Someone needs to have a sitdown with Tim Apple and tell him it's not the price, it's the size.
If Apple released the iPhone 11 Pro in a size that matched the physical dimensions of the iPhone SE I'd buy one this instant even at $999.
It's always been about the size for me and nothing else.
If Apple released the iPhone 11 Pro in a size that matched the physical dimensions of the iPhone SE I'd buy one this instant even at $999.
It's always been about the size for me and nothing else.
No. This would be giving some iPhone 8 fans what they might want. Honestly if ‘SE’ hadn’t been mentioned there probably wouldn’t be so many complaints here already. A low-cost notch-free iPhone is certainly sellable.
But this would not be much of a replacement for the SE for many of us, IMHO.
The XR isn't all that great and makes no sense to sell it along the iPhone 11.
I am not price-sensitive. I am size sensitive. 4.7 is too much. And those fancy new screen ratios, I know a place where they can shove them.
Of course big sells, because only they only produce big! I do not care about your 2020 perspective. I have an ipad (which would be somewhat useless having a big phone) and apple tv. I'll watch streams there, not on a phone, any size. Period.
Or that 'valuable data' points out that most people don't care what the size is. That they can fit more tech into larger sized phones vs smaller. That smaller phones are more difficult to sell certain media services on because who stares at a small 3 inch screen all day playing Apple Arcade?
On another note, I think doing an SE of the 8 form factor when they have a new 5.4 inch flagship phone coming out in September a bit silly.
But the SE was the cheapest model, some people bought it because of the size but many for budget. How are they going to price this new SE? More expensive than the 8? Nobody's going to buy it. Cheaper? Great, but what's the point in keeping the 8?
Well, that's just speculation in regards to whether or not the original SE form factor was driven solely by price point as opposed to size or a combination of price point / size.
But even if what you're saying is 100% correct there are two problems with it in regards to an SE 2 based on a larger form factor (iPhone 8):
1) Once released it became clear that size was clearly a factor for many purchasers that was as important or more important than price and Apple's singular and repeated failure to acknowledge this remains mind boggling to me and;
2) Using your own theory a new SE should retain the 4 in form factor because the smaller size should be cheaper than using a larger chassis / screen etc if the goal is to hit a certain price point again and maintain Apples's regular margins.
So, a larger SE makes little sense when last year's X, which is roughly the same size as a larger SE, is now selling at a significantly lower price.
How did you manage to get that out of this report? The biggest request for a iPhone SE is due to its size. If folks were okay with the size of the iPhone 8 they likely already own an iPhone 8.
I'll take an SE in the form factor of the 8. I want that CPU performance for AR development, and I'm happy to carry around a cheaper phone (especially one with a fingerprint reader!)
A new SE in the small form factor would be great, but I'll settle for the shell of the iPhone 8. But dang do I love the sandwich of glass, lie-flat form factor of the 4/4S/5/SE
A new SE in the small form factor would be great, but I'll settle for the shell of the iPhone 8. But dang do I love the sandwich of glass, lie-flat form factor of the 4/4S/5/SE