Wow! Maybe I'll finally be able to upgrade from my 2015 15" MacBook Pro. The last great MacBook Pro.
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Kuo: Apple to Use New Scissor Switch Keyboard in Future MacBooks, Starting With 2019 MacBook Air Refresh
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Maybe I just might hold onto my Air for another year and not move away from Mac if these rumors come true. I have been considering a new MacBook Pro but I was really skeptical about the keyboards. Must admit I was looking at a Lenovo Thinkpad Exterme X1 but never say never.
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THANK GOODNESS! The 2015 MacBook Pro keyboard is still the greatest laptop keyboard that ever was, so I’m just hoping Apple is willing to approximate something like that again.
So far the 2019 versions haven’t had any problems. No-one has complained or made a video yet.
If it will be quiet like my old MBP I'm in. The 2019 is too noisy for me.
Excellent, if true. Now please fix the quality control issues with speakers, displays etc. too. Actually, please fix quality control issues for all hardware.
The reliability issues may have been mitigated, but the feel is as awful as ever...
It took about 4 months for reports of keyboard failures to really come to the fore front. They may have improved the keyboard but does that mean it will last 4+ years? Its track record says no.
This.
As I've said numerous times, the butterfly keyboard doesn't (didn't?) bother me at all (gen 1), but the price for the base Air (or rather the price of the Air upgraded to 16 GB / 512 GB) was just too much, when they also gave it a Y- and not a U-CPU.
A new and improved Air with a bit better specs and a bit lower price is exactly what I want (and need to replace my ancient 11" Air (late 2010)). </crosses fingers>
...and if they fix the keyboard, so a small, but maybe significant, minority no longer experience any issues, all the better.
Hence why I've held onto my Air for almost 5 years.
And still the Apple Defence League members that patrol these forums will continue to insist that there is nothing wrong with the butterfly keyboards. That it’s all a big conspiracy created by YouTube influencers and Apple critics.
Thank goodness! Glad to see the disastrous experiment known as the butterfly keyboard die.
Clearly a bad design carried over year after year resulting in a special service program. Time to go back to the tried and true.
Clearly a bad design carried over year after year resulting in a special service program. Time to go back to the tried and true.
Well Ok, Apple managed to lose all faith that they are able to build decent keyboards. Not because they designed that butterfly, that can be stopped by a breadcrump. No, that‘s because they did hang on that poor design for years.
Well, no they moving ahead with scissors. Not sure if I want to use my fingers with that.
Well, no they moving ahead with scissors. Not sure if I want to use my fingers with that.
Maybe Apple signed at least a 3 year supply contract with the butterfly keyboard manufacturer? I dont really know how supply chains work, but it seems like they're stuck to this design for 3-4 years.
Sounds like Apple finally starting to take the Mac seriously again.
That and the re-introduction of upgradeability and user-serviceability.
If they can throw in the old glowing Apple logo it would be the icing on the cake.
Talking about it like this it’s mind boggling to realise how many steps backwards Apple has taken with their laptops over the last couple of years.
It is my hope that they’ve learned from this.
This is excellent news. I refuse to purchase a new Mac using the failure prone almost-zero-travel keys. If they go back to something that is similar in feel and reliability to the one in my 2015 MacBook Pro I'll upgrade.
This is the fifth revision of the keyboard I believe. From 2015 on the 12” MacBook.
The editor and curator that allowed the Mighty Mouse that needed to be bought again and again because the tracking ball would stop working because of dirty entering it? Please stop glorifying Jobs for merits he never had. Especially in cases where the same identical design issue happened under him, it makes the claim even more ridiculous. That was the only Apple a Mouse for 5-7 years...
And, Ive left a week ago, they didn’t decide to start working on a new keyboard, worked on it and finalized and planned when to used in the last 5 days don’t you think ?
I don’t see anywhere in this report where he says the laptops will be getting thicker. What excuse will Marco Arment and others use if these new laptops are just as thin but with a different keyboard?
Also LOL at anyone who thinks a new keyboard was redesigned in a week. Plus Ive is still on Apple’s leadership page. He hasn’t left yet.
Also LOL at anyone who thinks a new keyboard was redesigned in a week. Plus Ive is still on Apple’s leadership page. He hasn’t left yet.
I think it was telling when the latest gen were added to the extended repair list the day they were released