No they don’t. they can’t build it, so they don’t sell it. Don’t confuse an inability to make something with a lack of demand from people to buy it.
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Kuo: Apple Watch Series 4 Pre-Orders Above Expectations, iPhone XS Seeing Lackluster Demand
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No they don’t. they can’t build it, so they don’t sell it. Don’t confuse an inability to make something with a lack of demand from people to buy it.
The watch example was for size, not for complete replication of what a smartphone can do.The point is, Apple isn't going to make another SE sized phone for the foreseeable future.
Ok, so Apple is pig headed and can't figure out that there's this large pent up demand. What about Google? They aren't making one either. Well, we know that Apple and Google are secretly in cahoots, so thats why they won't make one. But Samsung doesn't make one either. It's well known that they are all members of the Illuminati, and that all the big boys got together and decided to rain on the parade of the trillions of people who want an SE sized phone like you do. Well, LG, Motorola, HTC, Vodafone, Sony, Huawei also don't make-or in Huawei's case, sell in the US, a phone comparable to the SE with mostly up to date features. Obviously each and every company has a bad case of the stupids and can't see what is obvious right in front of their faces.
One thing that no one is doing of course is planning on selling a SE sized phone. Not here, not Europe, and not in Japan, Singapore or South Korea. I wouldn't be surprised if small phones WERE being sold in poorer Asia, or in Africa. But I bet as soon as those areas can afford it those people also will buy larger screen phones. Most people really do believe that bigger is better, and that crosses nationalities.
The reason small screen phones aren't being sold is that there isn't a big enough market for them today. I didn't say there wasn't ANY market, just one not big enough.
I think that current buyers of the XS Max will be the main sales agents for future iPhone XS Max sales generation. People will notice the iPhone XS Max and will ask to look at it - and then it is the "keeping up with the Joneses" at work here to drive sales! LOL!
It’s amazing some forum members can’t believe this.
Apple has priced the devices now where it makes sense to hold on longer. Which is very apparent with the X and now the XS.
There is no price increase. Seriously, there isn't.
iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 have become cheaper.
iPhone XS costs exactly the same as iPhone X but is quite a bit improved.
iPhone XR is new, it is a lot cheaper than the XS and about the same as the iPhone 8.
iPhone XS Max is $100 or £100 more than iPhone XS. Same difference as between 6 and 6+, 7 and 7+, 8 and 8+.
What is beyond the comprehension of some journalists is that you can also buy these phones either with a ton of memory or with a ******** of memory. And that memory costs money. But it doesn't mean the iPhone is more expensive. It's stupid to say the iPhone XS is too expensive because you can buy it with half a terabyte of memory. Imagine they sold one with 2 TB. Some people would get heart attacks looking at the price, whereas all reasonable people just say "I don't need that much memory".
Math check: They might make $100 or more in profit per phone on such a device. If they sold 10M phones, that would $1B in PROFIT, not revenue, profit. Even to Apple, who had $10B in profit overall last year, that's a lot.
No they don't. There's NO EVIDENCE of that. A few geeks screaming online about wanting a smaller flagship phone is meaningless. Apple sells tens of millions of these things every quarter. They know what consumers want a lot better than you. Good lord. The SE wasn't a flagship device, but it was hardly a compromise. If you really wanted a smaller phone, it was a solid option, not a "low end" device.
They don’t offer an alternative. 1 MP lower camera is a compromise. Only, it was far worse than that. It didn’t even get the new body as the other devices.
I definitely would if I wasn’t on the iphone upgrade program. I enjoy the iphones. I basically pay tax on the phone and a few bucks more every month if the prices go up but I like that. They have Apple care and I use it and trade it in every year. It’s a guilty pleasure. Glad they offer it. But if I wasn’t on it I’d hold onto the phone for a couple years.
Maximizing profits means that you’re better off canibalizing your own sales than letting someone else do it. That’s not “marketing BS.”
iPhones are luxury items. People do not want to be carrying around a "budget" iPhone for $200 less then that of a XS! Most are purchasing on installment plan anyways so moving into the XS is about 6-8 dollars more a month. It not a big deal for most buyers. XS Max might be additional $12 more a month so maybe a payment of around $45 a month depending on memory. People want to say I am somebody and will go for the top of the line model! And this year it a real color gold iPhone that looks like real gold. It is not pinkish or off color gold like the 7 and 8 models earlier.
what is it that makes the xs and xs max super premium....other than the price?
And? Apple clearly doesn't see the need to offer a smaller phone. They know that virtually no one is going to ditch the iPhone over screen size alone. Plus, and more to the point, the XS isn't huge compared to the SE:
XS:
Height: 5.65"
Width: 2.79"
Depth: 0.3"
SE:
Height: 4.87" (3/4" shorter)
Width: 2.31" (less than 1/2" wider)
Depth: 0.3" (the same)
Time to upgrade from my 4S. Luckily found a new SE in that classic form factor I love. Not a fan of phablets.....
Apple sells $25 billion in Macs per year, and it’s a profitable business segment. That has little relevance to the SE.
5% may seem like a lot, but that means 95% of customers preferred a larger phone—even though they’re more expensive (and more profitable for Apple).
Sometimes Apple can make a decent business out of a 5% market share product, for instance the Mac Pro.
If they can’t, it gets canceled. If they can figure out a way to make a smaller phone profitable, they’ll bring it out. But it might not have the features or be priced where it’s something you want.
You, and a handful of others, can repeat this all day long, but that doesn't make it true. There's no evidence that consumers want a smaller phone. None. Zip. Zero. If that were true, other brands would be making tiny flagship phones, but they're not.
The egos some people have thinking they know better than Apple just because they want it... How narcissistic. Ugh.
The XS is only slightly larger than then SE, as I noted in another post. No one is going to ditch the iPhone over 1/2".
XS MAx also will have 4X4 MIMO and LAA specs too, Dual SIMM cards and T-Mobile/ ATT phonesnow have CDMA capability-another plus for T
It should be considered that all of those who ordered the X last year, had to preorder oct 27th. Their upgrade every 12 months is not up yet. Making them in line for the XR as apple planned, and getting new adapters to the the X family.
Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo has issued a research note today, obtained by MacRumors, outlining his opinions about first-weekend pre-orders for the iPhone XS, iPhone XS Max, and Apple Watch Series 4.
Kuo says Apple Watch Series 4 pre-orders have been "better than expected," as a result of new innovative functions, such as electrocardiogram support. He predicts Apple Watch shipments will reach 18 million units in 2018, with the Series 4 lineup accounting for 50 to 55 percent of those orders.
If the ECG support expands to more countries, Kuo believes the Series 4 lineup could see even stronger shipment momentum.
In contrast, Kuo says iPhone XS pre-orders are "lower-than-expected," as customers opt for the iPhone XS Max or wait for the iPhone XR. Kuo has lowered his forecast for iPhone XS orders, believing the model will account for only 10 to 15 percent of shipments of the new 2018 iPhones, down from 15 to 20 percent.
Kuo says iPhone XS Max pre-orders have been in line with expectations, signifying the success of Apple's high-pricing strategy:Kuo sees a positive outlook for the iPhone XR, available to pre-order October 19, given its lower pricing and dual-SIM support in China.
The well-known analyst increased his forecast for iPhone XR orders, estimating that the model will account for 55 to 60 percent of shipments of the new 2018 iPhones, up from 50 to 55 percent previously.
"We estimate the shipment peak of XS Max and XS will be in October and XR will start shipping and benefiting supply chain momentum in October," said Kuo.
iPhone XS, iPhone XS Max, and Apple Watch Series 4 pre-orders began Friday.
Article Link: Kuo: Apple Watch Series 4 Pre-Orders Above Expectations, iPhone XS Seeing Lackluster Demand
Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo has issued a research note today, obtained by MacRumors, outlining his opinions about first-weekend pre-orders for the iPhone XS, iPhone XS Max, and Apple Watch Series 4.
Kuo says Apple Watch Series 4 pre-orders have been "better than expected," as a result of new innovative functions, such as electrocardiogram support. He predicts Apple Watch shipments will reach 18 million units in 2018, with the Series 4 lineup accounting for 50 to 55 percent of those orders.
If the ECG support expands to more countries, Kuo believes the Series 4 lineup could see even stronger shipment momentum.
In contrast, Kuo says iPhone XS pre-orders are "lower-than-expected," as customers opt for the iPhone XS Max or wait for the iPhone XR. Kuo has lowered his forecast for iPhone XS orders, believing the model will account for only 10 to 15 percent of shipments of the new 2018 iPhones, down from 15 to 20 percent.
Kuo says iPhone XS Max pre-orders have been in line with expectations, signifying the success of Apple's high-pricing strategy:Kuo sees a positive outlook for the iPhone XR, available to pre-order October 19, given its lower pricing and dual-SIM support in China.
The well-known analyst increased his forecast for iPhone XR orders, estimating that the model will account for 55 to 60 percent of shipments of the new 2018 iPhones, up from 50 to 55 percent previously.
"We estimate the shipment peak of XS Max and XS will be in October and XR will start shipping and benefiting supply chain momentum in October," said Kuo.
iPhone XS, iPhone XS Max, and Apple Watch Series 4 pre-orders began Friday.
Article Link: Kuo: Apple Watch Series 4 Pre-Orders Above Expectations, iPhone XS Seeing Lackluster Demand
For those that do the ATT next with yearly upgrade it's only about $6 more a month for me to go from the 7+ to the XSmax so why not do it? I haven't paid outright for a phone for years and with the next program 0% interest "payments" I don't see a reason to pay for one outright until things change.
Ummmm...you may only be seeing what you want to see.
Oh, well. I doubt anyone can change your mind. Be Best.