Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Kuo: Apple 'Well Prepared' for Headset Announcement Next Month
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
MacRumor's user base is starting to show its age. I feel like most people here are getting older, getting set in their ways, and resisting change and new things. There are so many comments of "Why would I need this?" about most new tech and innovation. This rumored headset is no different... or foldable phones... or heck even larger phones.
I don't see this replacing the iPhone but I could see it replacing or providing an alternative to standard desktop workstations. If the headset has a real ability to create a virtual work environment with multiple virtual monitors I'm so ready. That's the current dream. Being able to efficiently work while traveling would be awesome.
Then again... '640K is more memory than anyone will ever need.'
I don't see this replacing the iPhone but I could see it replacing or providing an alternative to standard desktop workstations. If the headset has a real ability to create a virtual work environment with multiple virtual monitors I'm so ready. That's the current dream. Being able to efficiently work while traveling would be awesome.
Then again... '640K is more memory than anyone will ever need.'
If this headset can do the things you've mentioned, most people still aren't going to buy it. I'm not strapping a device onto my head and throwing on a fanny pack for the battery for 8 or more hours a day (or hardwiring it), 5 days a week (more for a lot of people) so I can have a virtual work environment on my desk. I'd rather just have the hardware I have now. I guarantee I am in the majority here. Even for the people who do want this type of set up, the tech isn't there for a full virtual work environment right now anyway, and it won't be for some time.
You're right, but I think all of us suffer from difficulty in seeing how devices can change our lives. Before the iPhone I was content to carry an iPod and I hated phones with the "candy bar" form factor; I was all in on flip phones. I didn't see the point in "smart phones" - back then it was Blackberry and some other company or two with names I can no longer remember. Before the Apple Watch I despised having anything strapped to my wrist.
AR is something people have a harder time visualizing because not many have experienced it. For my part, I was so-so on the Apple headset until I bought a PlayStation VR2. It's my first foray into virtual reality, and part of its setup involves a sequence of establishing your "play area" so that you don't bump into things. This uses some relatively fuzzy-appearing outward-facing cameras so you can see outside of the headset, before the world in front of you fades away and is replaced with the virtual reality display and worlds. I have to tell you, that augmented reality sequence was magical. Virtual reality was impressive but also slightly disappointing (the PSVR2 uses 4k displays, but I feel like we need 8k displays to really make it feel impressive - and even then, it feels like VR in its current form will never be mainstream).
The augmented reality setup made me feel like it is augmented reality's time to shine. It may seem like a problem in search of a solution at first; there's more of a social stigma to overcome; and the comfort is really paramount, but if Sony could make its VR headset's startup sequence feel so magical, I trust Apple to absolutely wow people left and right with what's to come.
Y’all realize that the rumor-threads for the original iPad and Apple Watch also have tons of people saying “I don’t see the point of this”.
We'll see. This is the same party that was referring to Apple as the last hope to rekindle interest in this segment of the marketplace. Thats a nice compliment but Apple normally doesn't do favors for problematic competition efforts with similar products if this is at all like those efforts? Right now it's all a guessing game where Apple is focused on as they don't divulge their plans before WWDC 2023.
I'm confused. Why does every device need to be made for everyone? Is it a product for the minority, especially now? Probably. But Apple users have pretty much always been in the minority.
AR/VR tech is moving rapidly and Apple has been working on this for a long time. You never know, headsets could become the norm in the future and desktops and monitors go by the wayside. You haven't even seen what Apple brings to the table and you've already written it off.
You do you, but I'm anxious to see what future tech brings. As we've seen in the past Apple has the ability to change the entire industry and make the future possible. Bring it on.
Stay hungry.
3000 is too expensive for a first gen product. Apple is going to be taking a major loss while they attempt to get this thing off the ground.
Well, no one is more cynical of this device than I am but I have read every post in here and I don’t see one successful attempt to imagine why this device might be desirable. I’ve never seen it but let me try to imagine.
They say this will run iPad apps. So I am imagining it to be an expensive and advanced iPad. What do I use my iPad for? Pretty much just web browsing and watching YouTube videos, maybe some gmail. And an occasional game. but by far mostly web browsing. At it’s my favorite way to browse the web by far.
So considering that. I think new eyePad will give you say 10 or 20 different screens at once. So you can browse up to 20 different web sites at once. You can watch the nba semifinals and watch your stock price ticks, watch a slack conversation live, etc, all at the same time.
Thats it. It will be the ultimate monitor, web browsing experience. Like having 20 4k monitors strapped to your eyes. It will look absolutely incredible. Imagine 20 65” 4k monitors in front of your eyes… does that interest anyone?
They say this will run iPad apps. So I am imagining it to be an expensive and advanced iPad. What do I use my iPad for? Pretty much just web browsing and watching YouTube videos, maybe some gmail. And an occasional game. but by far mostly web browsing. At it’s my favorite way to browse the web by far.
So considering that. I think new eyePad will give you say 10 or 20 different screens at once. So you can browse up to 20 different web sites at once. You can watch the nba semifinals and watch your stock price ticks, watch a slack conversation live, etc, all at the same time.
Thats it. It will be the ultimate monitor, web browsing experience. Like having 20 4k monitors strapped to your eyes. It will look absolutely incredible. Imagine 20 65” 4k monitors in front of your eyes… does that interest anyone?
Last edited:
When did I say that products need to be made for everyone? I didn't. Don't worry though, I will circle back to this once this product fails, just like every other AR/VR product to date. The tech just isn't there yet, period. On a more cheery note, if this seems like something you'll enjoy, more power to you. I know what it is like to get excited for new tech, and there's nothing wrong with that.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Perhaps this will raise the bar?
Note that ahead of iPhone, the "state of the art" smartphone was Blackberry (aka Crackberry, because it was such a "perfect" smart phone).
I have to think that if Apple has been working on this for 6-7+ years, it probably won't be only a PSVR2 or Oculus++ with an Apple logo on it. I anticipate "more."
Last edited:
I think there will be no external battery. That thing bill be plugged into the iphone. But - we will see...
To imprint a ski mask around your forehead/eyes once finished and have a sweaty forehead 😂
I think the tech is more there than you think. I was on a long flight a couple of weeks back and used AR glasses (VITURE One) to watch movies and played some games on steam deck. It was great. I could quickly dial back the visibility of the screen and see the real word when I needed to. These glasses lack 3DoF support (though they are working on it) otherwise I had them on for 5+ hours and enjoyed them.
I backed out of the Kickstarter because the company didn't do a good enough campaign but the EM3 Ether VR glasses are yet another evolution of the tech. I'd still love to see these come to fruition and give them a go. Super light weight and 9MM in thickness.
The Bigscreen VR headset is another one that recently came out further improving the tech.
Yeah, me neither.
I'm terrible in that I partly would like to see this thing fail if it is marketed to the general public ;-) I can see such devices useful in specific operations but not so much for general public. We don't need more virtual reality in our everyday lives; we need more engagement with reality!
Remind me again. What is the Lisa or Macintosh good for?
Just as your phone is part of your daily life in 2023 this device will be the mainstay by 2030 and phones will go away.
C’mon, the iPhone was a shoe-in for a huge success. Replacing the iPod and the mobile phone in your pocket alone was enough, plus always-available internet, maps+gps, email and a camera.
The headset has… what exactly? It’s a weighty clumsy thing to carry around, with its battery pack. An awful lot of superfluous hardware specs is what I’m seeing so far. They might still pull it off but the software better be darn good.
My parents are old and are open to new tech like VR/AR. People who are getting set in their ways and resisting change are basically experiencing internal errors. They are caught up in their own egoism that they can't see any other view. This is a cognitive error - it's not the right way to think, ever.
For the target audience, $3K is pocket change.
These goggles might allow an engineer to examine a 3D model of a chemical plant being designed or a radiologist to look at an internal organ, hold it in his or her hand, turn it around, open it up, and look inside.
Yes, $3K is under budget for most consumers looking to play video games.
For a business, you look at capital cost as a fraction of yearly labor coast. It is not uncommon for many to have a 1:1 ratio. So the 200K per year engineer's employer can justify buying a $3k tool once every three years. It is 0.5% of labor cost.
As for the radiologist, the monitor she uses to view x-rays likey costs $3K.
The potential for these devices are unlimited, pretty much a new universe will be created. Yet some people seem to lack imagination.