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Probably still Person 1, because they have enough not to play silly games like reselling for profit.

I use eBay a lot, and the seller fees plus shipping cut into a lot of the profit. A realistic selling price for a sold out Vision Pro might be $4500, of which eBay takes a $600+ cut, not including $50 shipping and materials, even if you bought without tax you’re only getting $350 in profit. If it sells for $4000, you’re losing money.

But even for $350, that’s about 5 hours total work PLUS risk. Not worth it in my opinion.
Tough to say what the price will be until it comes out the market sets the demand. Generally speaking, in demand tech sells for double retail.

And that's not to mention the people that treat the 2nd like an investment, and sit on it while it's value rises over the years.

Both are business strategies, and if people can figure out how to make it work for them, good on them.
 
No skin in the game as I'm in Europe, but I hope Apple has the sense to limit sales to 1 per customer. Otherwise, so many will buy 2 and try to flip one at up to 2x RRP, thus giving them - in their heads - a near enough "free" AVP.
 
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To be in the top 1% richest of the US, your net worth has be $13 million or so. 1% of the US is 3.5 million people. There are going to be 400,000 of these things world wide? Yikes. Yeah, this is going to be a scalper's paradise.
 
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80K units @ $3,500 USD each = $280M.
400K units @ 3,500 USD each = $1.4B.
Something tells me it's still going to sell fast.
I'm still wondering how much it cost to produce.
Assuming Apple's typical 35% margin on hardware:

80K units @ $3,500 USD each = $280M ==> $98M 'profit'
400K units @ 3,500 USD each = $1.4B ==> $490M 'profit'

These are numbers that most companies can only dream of. I wonder what the R&D investment was for Visio Pro and how much of it they make back in the first year alone before ramp up?
 
To be in the top 1% richest of the US, your net worth has be $13 million or so. 1% of the US is 3.5 million people. There are going to be 400,000 of these things world wide? Yikes. Yeah, this is going to be a scalper's paradise.
Probably still Person 1, because they have enough not to play silly games like reselling for profit.

I use eBay a lot, and the seller fees plus shipping cut into a lot of the profit. A realistic selling price for a sold out Vision Pro might be $4500, of which eBay takes a $600+ cut, not including $50 shipping and materials, even if you bought without tax you’re only getting $350 in profit. If it sells for $4000, you’re losing money.

But even for $350, that’s about 5 hours total work PLUS risk. Not worth it in my opinion.
Only a $1,000 markup? Have you considered demand from the very rich world wide? Remember when the iPhone was hard to get in China and there would be a line of scalpers on release day lined up? I could easily see that happening here.
 
‘07 iPhone launch, a guy I knew from HS flipped two. His profit was unimpressive - like $200 from each. For those who remember the iPhone launch, the hype for Vision Pro is a tiny fraction of that.

Also, I doubt any headset will sell as well as smartphones have - the concept will evolve to glasses and then contact lenses or brain interface before that happens.
 
To be fair, money spent on memories is better spent. The child will grow up and always remember that concert, but the AVP is going to be an outdated piece of tech in a few years.
For those with prescription lenses (AVP won't fit over glasses), the race will be to see which lasts longer: your current lens Rx vs the battery.

The battery life on the AVP is so poor, you can't even watch Avatar 2 or Oppenheimer in one sitting!
 
OMG. If only I could say what I really want to say. How sad that this kind of thinking actually exists. I wouldn't have believed it until I started reading this site. Now I actually expect it.

If you enjoyed that -- just check out the Vision Pro forum, and reddit. 😂
 
For those with prescription lenses (AVP won't fit over glasses), the race will be to see which lasts longer: your current lens Rx vs the battery.

The battery life on the AVP is so poor, you can't even watch Avatar 2 or Oppenheimer in one sitting!
Nearsightedness (myopia) gradually reverses itself later in life, so your prescription gets weaker and weaker. And of course by then we’re wearing expensive progressive lenses (unless you choose to have different pairs for reading and distance). I’ve gone back to wearing one contact lens for distance to save money.
 
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Just like how MacBook Pro launched first, and then randomly there was "MacBook"

"Vision" will be the more affordable mass produced one.

Maybe a "Vision Air" too? only Apple would know.
 
I have no interest in this product. But I want to buy it so I can hopefully flip it on eBay for a lot more. Should I do it?
Assuming you buy the base model and you end up paying ebay an 18% commission you would have to sell the AVP for $4,300 just to break even, not factoring in sales tax. It's a speculative gamble, but it could pay off. Good Luck!
 
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Who is actually buying this?

I have no interest.
I had no interest in the gen 1 Apple Watch. I had no interest in the first iPad, even though I tuned in for the livestream of Steve introducing it. I am literally praying I can be fast enough to pre-order a vision pro next Friday morning. Truly grateful that so many people don't seem to want one because the initial production numbers seem unreasonably low...
 
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This is a misreading of the apple watch. They weren't experimenting. They totally misread the market and didnt understand the device. The first watch wasn't an experiment. They just had the wrong emphasis. They adapted. Apple isn't experimenting with AVP. They made a device that they think does everything they want and is feature complete. But they will rapidly adapt if they are wrong (or crash and burn or both).
The first Apple Watch was pushing technology to the limits. The processors and batteries were nearly not enough. They had to run the apps on the phone and project the results just to get it working in the series 0. It was absolutely an experiment. Once they had watches that could run apps directly, Apple tied several different kinds of apps on them. So did third parties. Some use cases didn’t pan out and others turned out to be particularly well suited. Apple new notifications would be a big feature of the Watch, but no one was sure that health and fitness would be such important uses for the Watch.

The VP is similar thought it is a proper general purpose computer, unlike the Watch so there are a lot more possibilities. It is going to take a few years for people (Apple, third-parties, and users) to figure out what works and what doesn’t and the second generation of devices and software are sure to change drastically.
 
Imagine Jobs not putting it on to demonstrate it. Never would happen if it he had confidence in the device,

I find it so bizarre not one employee has done a public demonstration.

It’s like they’re scared to showcase it. If they aren’t confident, why would we be?
 
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I gotta ask, do we really need Micro-OLED lenses? It's clear they're a major factor to why the headset is a nightmare to build and why it's so expensive, so why not just cut them for the eventual regular Apple Vision? That would slash the price by half and make it a lot easier to build.
What would you replace them with? They need that ~4K resolution per screen to be able to render the UI in enough detail. The screen cannot be larger to fit within the housing. That defines a pixel density that other screens don’t have. without it you would have fuzzy images with lots of screen-door effect.
 
For those with prescription lenses (AVP won't fit over glasses), the race will be to see which lasts longer: your current lens Rx vs the battery.

The battery life on the AVP is so poor, you can't even watch Avatar 2 or Oppenheimer in one sitting!
You can be connected to a USB charger. You aren’t stuck on just the battery. Your limit is likely your bladder capacity, not the battery capacity.
 
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