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Kuo: Apple's AR/VR Headset Announcement is 'Last Hope' for Persuading Investors It Will Be the Next 'Star Product'
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I'm not ready to count Apple out, but I totally agree with you re: AI vs. AR/VR. The next "iPhone moment" will be the company that creates a truly conversational UI. Microsoft and Google are miles ahead of Apple at this point.
AR/VR is a cool niche, but it will never be more than an accessory. Anyone who thinks AR/VR is going to replace a device like the iPhone is nuts. AR/VR fans on these threads repeatedly bring up the same edge use cases that, while no doubt useful, just aren't important to 95% of users.
If Apple can bring the Apple magic to its headset AND price it under $500, I think the headset can grow to be another Watch in terms of units sold, etc. Having a big virtual monitor or being able to watch a movie on the "big screen" while flying sounds cool. Will I replace my TV with the headset? Absolutely not. I have no desire to have goggles strapped to my face every time I want to watch TV. And I'd need a headset for everyone watching TV with me. But there are certain scenarios where a headset would be great as an accessory. It all hinges on the price.
The Apple review team will not allow any filth on the platform*
*or Spotify, or Tile or anybody who competes with Apple One
What device category is going to be the most natural and engaging way to both converse with AI bots and make use of AI as a tool?
VR/AR devices. Not regular screens which will have limits to what they can do with AI.
AI being the next big thing is ultimately a good thing for VR/AR.
Lol, there's already plenty of "filth" on their platform. Look at how many blatant sex hookup (and quasi prostitution) apps litter the app store as STI rates continue to soar since the introduction of the smartphone. What does Apple think people are doing on Grindr and Tinder? Exchanging recipes?
Not that I disagree with you, re: Apple and porn. They won't allow it, certainly not in their app store. Can the device be used as a virtual monitor, as many on these threads assume? If so, there will be plenty of porn. If not, a huge device selling point (virtual monitor, not porn) is lost.
Maybe in 20 years. We're nowhere near being able to produce a lightweight, stylish pair or eyeglasses with all day battery life and amazing AR screens/lenses. Decades away. In the meantime people are not going to walk around with bulky headsets, goggles, battery packs, etc. They are going to stick with the slim little device that slips in their pocket, connects to their bluetooth headset, etc.
It needs to get a lot smaller and less cumbersome, I agree.
If my sunglasses had AR lenses and I could just talk to them, no gestures, just a highly functional conversational UI, that would be a huge leap forward. I have no doubt that we will get there one day. That said, even with that level of sophistication, I don't think such a device will replace other devices. I don't see the smartphone or the PC form factors going away. There will always be different devices for different use cases. The problem with AR/VR today, and into the foreseeable future, is the bulkiness of the hardware. That's a deal-breaker for many many people.
Hey these 13 pages of forum posts read A LOT like the weeks/months before the original iPad got released. “Why would anyone want a big iPhone?!?”.
To be fair this time around I don’t see the rationale either, but then again I’m 13 years older so maybe just age kicking in?
To be fair this time around I don’t see the rationale either, but then again I’m 13 years older so maybe just age kicking in?
AI is gonna be a big factor going forward you are right about that
AR/VR still has a purpose as the next generation of computing. Mixed Reality adds new inputs and UI possibilities that traditional flat screens don't, and said functionality is already being put into use by enterprise.
This is why I’m actually more on the VR headset side than the AR glasses side. I’d rather people be in or out of computing. Not half-computing at every waking moment.
He stopped doing the rocket thing ten years ago, about when he started the VR thing. He is now working on general artificial intelligence.
20 million
2.5 million monthly SteamVR users. About 135 million accounts log in to Steam each month.
The consumer Rift was released a week before the consumer Vive. The Vive had 6 DOF controllers several months before the Rift, though.
As a long Oculus user, I can say the strengths of VR are Fitness activities and media consumption. To sit in a VR theater and watch a movie like you're there is awesome. The technology still has ways to go but if Apple brings high tech visuals to the theatrical experience, we may have something. I think they're Achilles hills will be if they won't let you add your own content, otherwise you will be tied to their iTunes Store and that will suck.
They already have a platform for fitness, so I can see this being a good addition to that, picture Peloton riding the Tour de France in VR, or a Supernatural (Oculus quest) like app.
If they do VR they may have a case, for AR you need to have the eyes uncovered to be successful, this won't work with these model.
They already have a platform for fitness, so I can see this being a good addition to that, picture Peloton riding the Tour de France in VR, or a Supernatural (Oculus quest) like app.
If they do VR they may have a case, for AR you need to have the eyes uncovered to be successful, this won't work with these model.
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Seriously?? Do you work for Meta or have some sort of kickback attached to Quest 2? Because you just love spreading this fake news. Meta HAS NOT sold 30M Quest 2 units as of October 2022.
Reference this article…
Road to VR / The Verge on Quest Sales
As of March 2023, Meta has reported total sales of 20M Quest units and that includes Quest 1, Quest 2, and Quest Pro combined. Meta has not provided any numbers for how many units have been returned or abandoned in use.
And I’ve already addressed the misleading 100M Steam VR number.
I get it… you’re a VR evangelist. Just do it with facts not fantasy.
All the market has proven is that they don’t want a VR / AR headset that isn’t made by Apple.
A lot of people wear glasses for fashion, not just as a medical device.
Glasses are cool. Case in point: These two:
Well mixed reality has been useful for physical therapy
How Virtual Reality Is Transforming Healthcare
In healthcare, practitioners are exploring exciting ways that VR can assist patients and health providers to achieve better treatments and outcomes.www.uschamber.com
I mean...sunglasses are a thing.
The point stands. Glasses are not universally accepted in the same way phones and computers are. People don’t like wearing things on their faces.
64% of the population at large REQUIRES glasses for their disability. It is not the same thing by a long shot.
AR glasses will have all the same functionality as normal glasses. Think about that for a second.