Imo, they announced new advanced Siri in good faith.
No it’s clearly not that. Nobody is ahead in ai . Most of ai are parlor tricks. The purpose of wwdc is to announce features, current and future. So there’s plenty of defending that.
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Kuo: Cook Should Personally Address Siri Apple Intelligence Failure
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Funny to get a thumbs down when I didn't even call anyone out specifically. If the shoe fits though...
No they announced the new Siri because they where getting desperate or else they could easily have kept it under wraps & as it was working successfully they could have put out a press release then saying it will be coming out. And most people would have been pleasantly surprised at that.
The purpose of wwdc is to show off software features that will arrive in the next year.
Not to show off half baked ideas that you think you can pull off & then when you can’t you then look silly for announcing it in the first place
I can see them going to back to this model, so we will not know what is coming only what is ready, I like the current way better but I understand things get delayed.
It’s not about the current model not working
It’s this for example we all know that iOS 19 will start getting work done on it from February so Apple know from then to June if these features have a good chance of working that’s how they can do the big presentation for wwdc.
Yet we know that this feature wasn’t working properly in the first place & yet they still went ahead & announced it regardless
Nobody is saying don’t announce things but what I believe people are getting at is this was announced when it wasn’t actually working successfully to start with
It had some software aspect to it though (Connection strength indicators in the UI)
At the very least it'd be good if they released some kind of updated roadmap for Apple Intelligence development. A lot of people upgraded to an iPhone 16 for the promise of Apple Intelligence, so there is some monetary value spent on the hardware, even if it is received through free software updates.
I don't think it's fair to compare it to iPhone 4's antenna issues. It's not a hardware defect. They could probably make good with a free year of some/all Apple services/Apple One subscription for iPhone 16 owners - I think that would be the fair thing to do. I think this does end up in some kind of class action lawsuit at the very least.
I don't think it's fair to compare it to iPhone 4's antenna issues. It's not a hardware defect. They could probably make good with a free year of some/all Apple services/Apple One subscription for iPhone 16 owners - I think that would be the fair thing to do. I think this does end up in some kind of class action lawsuit at the very least.
It means I think apple is adrift, and I have no faith that they are aware of it. No faith that there will be course correction. And to keep with the ship analogy, eventually maybe they will hit an iceberg. Maybe in 3-5 years. Maybe in 10. Maybe not at all.
I wasn't talking about purchasing decisions, you are. If you actually care about my opinion on that, you can read it in the xcode thread.
I am not going to waste time typing it again, because it seems like you are trolling, changing the subject, pulling the time tested “oh so you are going to stop buying apple products? Sure buddy”.
We disagree on the motives of apple. You can hold them accountable as your views dictate.
Companies that lie and / or mislead customers should be held accountable.
Of course we disagree on Apple’s motives & yet the top level team are meeting regarding this because it’s a disaster
And yet you still refuse to acknowledge any mistake that has been made
Hmmmm. Posters are pretty divided on AI being: a. A sham pushed by ‘grifters’; or, b. Pretty useful, with a lot of promise. I fall squarely in the b. camp, even more so than most supporters.
Here’s a simple problem statement: technology is evolving at a rate that is surpassing an increasing number of people’s ability to use it. <ironically, that’s the core of Apple’s historic design approach and the premise Apple was founded on. Society also continues to deconstruct, resulting in increasing segmentation and polarization, trading objectivity and shared valuation for egocentrism and tribalism. Technological advancement in all fields has served as a kind of Tower of Babel to drive that launch into deconstructionism and a post-truth age.
The promise of AI (in an idealistic sense) is to simplify that complexity and play a unifying role, where multiple perspectives, considerations and broad based external fact sets are brought to information consumption and massively complex problem processing. The big picture of AI’s end game is more Gene Roddenberry than novel little gimmicks like genmoji. I would expect multiple ‘killer apps’ to appear over the next year - AI is also working more and more within legacy functions like financial modeling, engineering, traffic control, etc., etc. the Roddenberry stuff is down the road a bit but much nearer than you think.
They either made this announcement in bad faith or by incompetently failing to ensure that this would be finished anywhere near the promised time. I don't see a third possibility.
The quick fix is to fire the Siri/AI teams and contract with OpenAI to integrate ChatGPT with Siri.
I think that may go too far. What I feel would be fair to level at management is that clearly they didn't listen. Clearly some protested or offered concerns but that went unheeded. Could that mean there is a deeper issue with company culture? Perhaps, but that's speculation. What is not, is their lack of approachability and the lack of listening to team members that said "we can do this but not in the timeframe we originally decided on." Fine. Delay it. Be careful with the wording. The bravado to just announce it and assume everyone would rise to the occasion is pointing towards a flaw with leadership. Good leaders listen and serve to help lift up those in their charge. Enabling people to do their best work even in difficult headwinds. This is not that.
I respectfully suggest that if a major product announcement turns on a feature that isn't yet ready at the time of the announcement, failing to listen amount to executive incompetence. They need to listen, and even if they are told that everything will work, they need to ask probing questions to make sure. A company that chooses to manufacture a demo of software that can't yet do the things shown the demo is putting its credibility on the line, and it needs to be damn sure that it will be able to provide the feature it is advertising.
I don't, yet with my iPhone 13 Pro, interacting with ChatGPT is always thrilling and satisfactory, in contrast, interacting with (oh, just commanding) Siri hurts my soul.
I agree with that. The more I think on it, the more it plays into my theory on a culture of toxic positivity that de-legitimizes any criticism of push back (even constructive criticism).
In my view, lifting Siri up to the intelligence level of ChatGPT should be the 1st priority of the [AI] initiative.
Without 16GB, he bears no chance of getting it.
I had the iPad Pro with 10Gb USB-C. It gave me USB-3 speed eventually after two major version of OS upgrad.
You should not announce [AI] at the first place if Siri was far away of getting minimum AI capability.
Everything else in the [AI] initiative is relevant and can be delayed as long as Siri is no more a joke.
I am not talking about hardware. LLM’s are a failure, they are dead on arrival. The technology sucks, there’s no fix for it and there will never be.
The future of AI, like AGI, is not in LLM’s. It’s something else, that’s not ready for the mainstream yet, maybe it’s not even viable now.