I don't think Apple needs to have people return phones. TBH, I don't know what "compensation" would make me whole, but in some ways that is besides the point. I am (was?) a big Apple proponent, and it is that part of me that is the most disappointed in Apple. It is also the most valuable part of me to Apple because it is what keeps me in the Apple ecosystem and buying more Apple products in the future. I actually recommend that people not upgrade to the any of the iPhone 16's, and I have never done that before. Because once people feel betrayed, it is hard for them to come back, and I do feel betrayed and stolen from; all because of a phone and need to preserve short term profits? Really, Apple? I really thought Tim Cook was better than that, but now I see him as a cold-hearted bean counter. An apology and some act of contrition would address that sense of betrayal. Instead, Apple just keeps silent hoping that the issue will go away. Meanwhile, AI is racing ahead and leaving Apple behind.
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Kuo: Cook Should Personally Address Siri Apple Intelligence Failure
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It’s bad that they were either over-ambitious or flat out lied about the timeline for “advanced Siri” but what are the (monetary) damages besides loss of consumer trust?
I don’t think the financial damages warrant the time and expense of a lawsuit. Maybe class action attorneys see a cash cow, but for the individual consumer, the promise of a refund can be settled for outside of court.
Public ridicule of Apple leadership is absolutely warranted, and quite honestly, they need to learn to keep their mouths shut unless they *for sure* know a feature/product will be released.
Tim needs to give a public apology, open up refunds for disappointed customers and be removed as CEO. He’s boring, tired and uninspired — completely lacking the Apple spirit.
Personally, I’d like to see Jeff Williams or Craig Federighi in position. At least they have passion and are deeply invested in the end product. It’s evident in their keynote performances, unlike Cook’s fake enthusiasm which never goes unnoticed.
I don’t think the financial damages warrant the time and expense of a lawsuit. Maybe class action attorneys see a cash cow, but for the individual consumer, the promise of a refund can be settled for outside of court.
Public ridicule of Apple leadership is absolutely warranted, and quite honestly, they need to learn to keep their mouths shut unless they *for sure* know a feature/product will be released.
Tim needs to give a public apology, open up refunds for disappointed customers and be removed as CEO. He’s boring, tired and uninspired — completely lacking the Apple spirit.
Personally, I’d like to see Jeff Williams or Craig Federighi in position. At least they have passion and are deeply invested in the end product. It’s evident in their keynote performances, unlike Cook’s fake enthusiasm which never goes unnoticed.
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If no one is you. I did. Not that I care much for the AI functions, but I actually got a 16 just for Apple Intelligence to be able to support my org and users. Had I known what I know now, I would've waited for the 17 as originally planned.
Please always need something to complain about. I'd much rather Apple take the time to make it right.
All the same, some sort of press release would be worthwhile IMO, at least to reset expectations. Please will complain, but people will complain anyway.
All the same, some sort of press release would be worthwhile IMO, at least to reset expectations. Please will complain, but people will complain anyway.
The problem is in overpromising… Apple is doing quite a lot, recently. Stop announcing features not really almost ready.
Is there a software solution for AI ?
What if the real issue is the hardware to manage it almost completely on device simply isn’t there ? What if Apple underestimated the RAM and power requirement to have such a system wide feature managed on device (and not online like on Android) ?
Do not forget people saying “Google is doing that” is totally BS: Google Gemini requires a network connection even for set an alarm. Apple was looking for a different solution for privacy.
Seems doubtful. Apple designed a three tiered system to accommodate "small" AI tasks locally and offload larger tasks.
From what I've read the issue appears to be around security, privacy, and data integrity.
They marketed iphone 16 on ai and a button. I really wonder how they could market 16 without ai? So yeah they owe iphone 16 users something for the delay. Where is real courage from apple when it's needed?
It’s actually a little ridiculous when you zoom out and look at this from start to finish. They promised so much at the time it seemed like they were saying Jesus was making a comeback. It was THAT big. Apple was the company in the world furthest back in the “AI race” and it appeared as they had no clear vision either. Stock valuations were in play and pressure was definitely on from shareholders. They HAD to come up with something. After the presentation there was a bit of euphoria. Apple was BACK. It saved the stock price and even increased it slightly. The way it looked was that it was heading for a correction.
I’d argue they probably did a calculation and figured out they had enough clout and customer satisfaction they could burn off and still be considered great and did a bait and switch to rescue the stock price.
I’d also argue Apple is getting better at hyperbole and worse at product development and programming.
I’d argue they probably did a calculation and figured out they had enough clout and customer satisfaction they could burn off and still be considered great and did a bait and switch to rescue the stock price.
I’d also argue Apple is getting better at hyperbole and worse at product development and programming.
Geez. Nobody really cares except the stock market and the Apple haters.
Have you not noticed the increase in gripe from Apple Fanboys in here?
It’s irrelevant if they do or not. What’s relevant was that’s why Apple said you should buy it. Its false advertising.
This post from macrumors is what I said yesterday! https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...e.2452961/page-16?post=33798067#post-33798067
It's like they make news items out of posts..
It's like they make news items out of posts..
Yeah I also switched to an iphone 16 in hope of getting a useful siri (the first time in 14 years)
However, the 14 years failure alone should be reason for several letters. I cannot imagine that anyone from the executives used siri at all
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This really needs to be penalised in some way. They used that as an advertisement not only to sell devices but also for getting investors. And then the second part of the history is that these delays create concerns about the final product quality. I'm kinda developer and I understand that delays happens, but if you delay something for 1 year or more, then there is something terribly wrong there.
Not sure about the rest of the world.
But a quick look on Apple's Web Site here in the UK
It seems Apple is still heavily promoting Apple Intelligence and even Advanced Siri still as top reasons to get the latest iPhone.
But a quick look on Apple's Web Site here in the UK
It seems Apple is still heavily promoting Apple Intelligence and even Advanced Siri still as top reasons to get the latest iPhone.
Apple Intelligence
Apple Intelligence helps you write, express yourself and get things done effortlessly. All while setting a brand-new standard for privacy in AI.
www.apple.com
Since i buy new Macbook, the first thing i do is turn off this
Apple Intelligence. I don't want to use beta one. Also i do not intend to use any AI stuff on my machine.
Previous was Notion, now this
Apple Intelligence. I don't want to use beta one. Also i do not intend to use any AI stuff on my machine.
Previous was Notion, now this
AI search engines cite incorrect news sources at an alarming 60% rate, study says
CJR study shows AI search services misinform users and ignore publisher exclusion requests.
arstechnica.com
A 60% error rate with massive LLA data centers but you're dumping on Siri and Apple Intelligence. Hilarious.
Indeed, I bought the iPhone 16 Pro for the better camera, and (ahum...) also I thought for that camera button (which annoys me...). Still, gr8 phone though.
Oh, AI is not available in my region anyway 😄
So I'm sure this has been said in so many ways on here but here is what needs to happen:
1) A letter and video from Tim Cook explaining briefly what they are wanting to do with AI and why it has stalled, and an apology.
2) Fire John Giannandrea once a proper replacement is found, or force him to resign by X date.
3) A live WWDC with live demos showing Apple Intellgence, with who will replace Giannandrea presenting some of the AI.
Personally I don't care that this has happened to much, although the Siri aspect probably was the most interesting part about this whole AI thing.
1) A letter and video from Tim Cook explaining briefly what they are wanting to do with AI and why it has stalled, and an apology.
2) Fire John Giannandrea once a proper replacement is found, or force him to resign by X date.
3) A live WWDC with live demos showing Apple Intellgence, with who will replace Giannandrea presenting some of the AI.
Personally I don't care that this has happened to much, although the Siri aspect probably was the most interesting part about this whole AI thing.
It is a bit rich when Apple have been saying for years now that they had a massive head start with AI and machine learning, only for it to turn out that either that wasn't true or they wasted that head start. The ChatGPT app can already do most of what we wished Siri would do in terms of search and chat and scheduled tasks, if OpenAI had full access to to Apple hardware then it would do everything we wished Siri could do overall.