Kuo Increases Galaxy S10 Shipment Estimates Due to 'Spec Differentiation From iPhone Models'

[MacBH928]

I understand the advantages of Face ID but now that the technology exists, why not have the best of both worlds? I for one like to use my thumb than my face dimensions, leave it for the user. Smaller notch, invisible fingerprint sensor, Qualcomm modems , cheaper prices, I guess life is good for the Samsung user. Its very ironic that Samsung sales on the rise and Apple is doing price slashing. Maybe we will start seeing the S-sheep camping outside Samsung stores in future hardware releases...

As an Apple fan, Samsung wins 100%, the only reason I stay with the iPhone is the ecosystem and not because iOS is great, but because Android is horrible privacy-lacking Googled owned OS. Privacy is the competitive advantage of Apple here. I will not have Google record my locations in the background even though I specifically disabled it, and god knows what else they are recording and storing forever and ever in their servers.

 

[waquzy]

Going back to my iPhone 7+ feels like visiting a museum. Just picking up your device and, you know, looking at it, is the most natural and unobtrusive biometric ever created. I’d never go back.

Unfortunately it isn't for everyone, I have the iPhone X and have been using passcode since pretty much from the beginning. For some reason I get a headache and eye discomfort when using the Face ID all day long. I only use it for passwords and Apple Pay these days.

I wish it had Touch ID.

 

[forerunnerg34]

I like iOS better than I do Android. I like the specs of the Samsung S10 and I could get used to the cutout on their screen. The one thing that stops me from purchasing the S10 is the fingerprint scanner. I have psoriasis which makes fingerprint scanners completely useless. No matter what with that phone I would have to type in the passcode. No thanks. At least, give me the option to use facial recognition or the fingerprint scanner.

you do have the option to use facial recognition, it was not removed from the Galaxy.

 

[Marcus PM]

Loved my little red Nokia flip phone. It did everything I needed it to back then.

 

[Heineken]

So you have to do some precise contortions to make sure you can see the screen, but the screen can't 'see' you. Very user friendly

It just happens. You’d know if you actually used one.

 

[dwsolberg]

Every time I see a knock on the notch, I ask myself "has this person actually used an iPhone with a notch?", or are they just armchair commenters disliking because it's popular to dislike.

The notch is a non-issue. The hole-punch that Samsung brought is very cool, but doesn't really solve the (apparent) problem that the notch introduced. It just looks cooler and more futuristic.

People think the rounded sides of the S10 screen are cool, but look at apps that don't optimize for that... text that's blurred as it bends around the corner. Not exactly a stellar experience, but hey, it's cool, right?

I have had an Xs for a few months, and I don’t really notice the notch, but I do miss the extra information that was on the status bar (esp battery percentage).

FaceID is slightly better than TouchID was (mostly because of my sometimes damp hands), but not by a lot. I think an ultrasonic fingerprint sensor in screen would be the best option if it were as fast and accurate as touchid.

I was talking about this with a friend. I prefer Apple software, but the hardware is basically on par or very close to the best Android devices. I would never give up my iPhone, though, because I really, really, really love my Apple Watch, and you need an iPhone to use it.

 

[Biu_miu]

And it has no notch!

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Why tho this 2k Samsung Fold will not have AUX port?
I mean, if I will spend over 2K, why should I pay for taking out ports?! Typical Samsung, increasing prices and removing features! And what if I want to charge my phone and listen to music at the same time?
I better buy iPad Mini 4 for 4x less and have AUX port!

 

[tridley68]

Jealousy at it's finest.

what ever dude it's a crappy phone with all its features stolen from Apples I Phone .

 

[Gilligan's last elephant]

Which then begs the question - what difference in the user experience does it mean for you? So what if the lock screen is locked? So what if it is unlocked?

What exactly is the harm here? You pick up your phone to look at the time, then lock it when you are done. Who cares what happens in between?

How does the person lock the screen when putting it down? Would this be one of those extra actions you were criticall about in an earlier post?

 

[forerunnerg34]

The facial recognition on the S10 is garbage. It's easily bypassed.

I wouldn't call it easy to bypass, but is not as strong as Face ID, question is.. how strong you need Face ID to be for your daily live?.

 

[tridley68]

Does it come with a exploding battery or is that extra.

 

[Abazigal]

How does the person lock the screen when putting it down? Would this be one of those extra actions you were criticall about in an earlier post?

The phone will lock by itself after a while when the screen goes off. I notice that people typically lock the phone before putting it away to shorten the screen on time (saving battery life) and what kind of situation puts you in a position where that 1 minute of idle time compromises the security of your devices?

It’s not going to be an issue for most people.

 

[forerunnerg34]

Does it come with a exploding battery or is that extra.

I'm pretty sure it doesn't come with garbage batteries like iPhone

 

[Glideslope]

Does it come with a exploding battery or is that extra.

Works both ways......

 

[Dave.UK]

what ever dude it's a crappy phone with all its features stolen from Apples I Phone .

I'm presuming you'll go silent now - However what exactly has the Galaxy s10 range stolen from the iPhone?

 

[Gilligan's last elephant]

Why tho this 2k Samsung Fold will not have AUX port?
I mean, if I will spend over 2K, why should I pay for taking out ports?! Typical Samsung, increasing prices and removing features! And what if I want to charge my phone and listen to music at the same time?
I better buy iPad Mini 4 for 4x less and have AUX port!

How can a feature be removed from a product catagory that a company has never had on sale before?

 

[Glideslope]

If the S10 turns out to be a hit (and still costs over $1K) then the argument that iPhone sales are down because of high prices goes out the door - and the next logical conclusion is....

....... and they bring up the Elephant in the room.

 

[Baymowe335]

On average, the iPhone XS 64GB costs €1259 in EU ($1423 + Tax). Galaxy S10 6.1 128GB costs €899 ($1016 + tax).

That’s unbelievable, the S10 is literally better in every way (except personal preferences) and €360 ($400) cheaper!

Maybe that’s the reason android has a market share of almost 80% in the EU

This would be yet another incorrect analysis.

1) The S10 isn't better in every way, if only for the OS.
2) Even the Kuo estimates point to only 40-45M Galaxy phones being sold in a year.

What does that mean? Apple sold 217M iPhones in 2018, or almost 5 times Kuo's optimistic (based on the 30-35M last year) number.

What does that mean? It means Android has high market share not because of flagship phones like the Galaxy, but because Android has many models from many manufacturers under $150. In other words, they are cheap.

Yes, people that buy iPhones want them and many who buy Android buy it because it's cheap.

 

[BigBoy2018]

I wouldn’t know, hadn’t you told me.
Thanks for the advice nobody asked about. I will continue to express my own opinion regardless.

The fact that this thread is already 13 pages long suggests that this story is of quite a lot of interest and relevemce to macrumors readers.

 

[Shanghaichica]

This would be yet another incorrect analysis.

1) The S10 isn't better in every way, if only for the OS.
2) Even the Kuo estimates point to only 40-45M Galaxy phones being sold in a year.

What does that mean? Apple sold 217M iPhones in 2018, or almost 5 times Kuo's optimistic (based on the 30-35M last year) number.

What does that mean? It means Android has high market share not because of flagship phones like the Galaxy, but because Android has many models from many manufacturers under $150. In other words, they are cheap.

Yes, people that buy iPhones want them and many who buy Android buy it because it's cheap.

45 million S line galaxy phones but overall Samsung will sell more phones than Apple.

 

[Baymowe335]

45 million S line galaxy phones but overall Samsung will sell more phones than Apple.

Again, try to keep up. We are talking about flagships and I even mentioned the sub $150 market which represents most of Android.

Apple owns 90% of the smartphone profits and made $60B in profit last year overall. Samsung sells A LOT of phones under $200.

Most of the phones Samsung sells outside of the Galaxy line are cheap, low margin junk.

 

[I7guy]

you said it yourself.
innovation means featuring new methods;introducing new ideas.so there you go.unless you disagree with English language terminology.

Yes,to any phone that doesn't deliver, doesn't impress, isn't worth the price tag,and lags behind competition.

Correct, which IMO is why the s10 is an iterative design. Even the under finger print sensor is not innovative, unless second to market is considered innovative.

And phones that don’t deliver in today’s environment won’t succeed. Lagging behind the competition is a value call though.
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Yeah, I also use this feature all the time. It's extremely convenient.

And completely unsafe to other drivers to interact with your phone while driving.

 

[The Game 161]

what ever dude it's a crappy phone with all its features stolen from Apples I Phone .

Lol iPhones don’t have half the features the S10 has that’s part of the issue with iPhones these days.

 

[Gasu E.]

No way I am giving up my iPhone any time soon, but Samsung pre-order shipments on the increase and iPhone sales on the decrease … does not sound good.

Why, are you an Apple employee? Competition is good.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Again, try to keep up. We are talking about flagships and I even mentioned the sub $150 market which represents most of Android.

Apple owns 90% of the smartphone profits and made $60B in profit last year overall. Samsung sells A LOT of phones under $200.

Most of the phones Samsung sells outside of the Galaxy line are cheap, low margin junk.

Oh well it doesn’t stop the S10 being a good phone even if it doesn’t sell as much as the iPhone.

Remember that 200 million units include older iPhones not only the current iPhone. Ming’s figure for Samsung only includes the latest model.