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The phone will lock by itself after a while when the screen goes off. I notice that people typically lock the phone before putting it away to shorten the screen on time (saving battery life) and what kind of situation puts you in a position where that 1 minute of idle time compromises the security of your devices?

It’s not going to be an issue for most people.
I was asking about your statement that they could lock the phone when "they are done" . That is not an auto lock situation. So one of your extra actions.

However, are you saying that the autolock feature occurs when the screen timeout occurs?
I typically have my timeout at 2 minutes as I have no issue with battery life on my well designed phone. However, in any public place, the phone being unlocked and not in the owners hands strikes me very much as a serious security issue. Open to a quick grab and off. So I am assuming I have misunderstood you.
 
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Again, try to keep up. We are talking about flagships and I even mentioned the sub $150 market which represents most of Android.

Apple owns 90% of the smartphone profits and made $60B in profit last year overall. Samsung sells A LOT of phones under $200.

Most of the phones Samsung sells outside of the Galaxy line are cheap, low margin junk.

Fun social experiment idea. Let’s see how many threads/posts Baymowe responds to with the words “profit”, “margin”, or “revenue”.
 
It's hard to pick who believe who's right; phone arena shows first day sales for the s10 lower then the s9, and zdnet says its higher than the s9 by 20%.

https://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S10-sales-numbers-compared-galaxy-s19_id114271
https://www.zdnet.com/article/korean-galaxy-s10-pre-orders-20-percent-higher-than-s9/

Internet in not here for telling you the truth. It is here to search for evidence in support of your current opinion.
Like any internet search, choose whatever result do you want to while searching for answer.
Like, for example “hitler wasn’t a bad guy” will tell you how good he was and people with “real” power were the bad ones

alternately, type “Hitler was a bad person” and you will be told everything in the world is Hitler’s fault
 
I wish Apple had not abandoned the fingerprint sensor. I am not against facial recognition, but I still want a fingerprint unlock.

EDIT: Oh yea, and Samsung still offers a traditional audio jack. Apple screwed up eliminating these two things.

I am currently using an iPhone 6s so no face ID. however i can see face ID improving my work flow:
When driving, i just need to glans over to unlock and get directions.
When on a desk, i just need to tilt it to my direction to unlock. (When i am not using a stand)
I cant see a down side. What do you not like about it.
 
You know exactly what I mean. Trying to be smart - are you still in school?

Not at all, but we can be sure you clearly weren’t being smart. I guess that nano second you save and then receive no further benefit whatsoever from FaceID is critical.
 
They are nice phone but the punch out is a no-go for me. I'd rather have a bezel or a notch.

At least on the iPhone, when you watch video you can crop out the notch and not lose any picture. Also, most apps work around the notch so you don't lose content. From what I've seen, there is not an option to crop out the holes on the new Samsung phones.
 
They are nice phone but the punch out is a no-go for me. I'd rather have a bezel or a notch.

At least on the iPhone, when you watch video you can crop out the notch and not lose any picture. Also, most apps work around the notch so you don't lose content. From what I've seen, there is not an option to crop out the holes on the new Samsung phones.

Then you have not seen how s10 works :)
 
They are nice phone but the punch out is a no-go for me. I'd rather have a bezel or a notch.

At least on the iPhone, when you watch video you can crop out the notch and not lose any picture. Also, most apps work around the notch so you don't lose content. From what I've seen, there is not an option to crop out the holes on the new Samsung phones.
There is for video yes.
 
Most of the phones Samsung sells outside of the Galaxy line are cheap, low margin junk.

What are these phones outside of the Galaxy line? On Samsungs UK website, ALL phones Samsung sells on the website are Galaxy phones.
There is also a list of phones which are only available from third party retailers. Typically old designs. Only one is not a Galaxy phone, the Samsung Ativ which is an old Windows phone.
 
I believe that in terms of hardware each one has its own strategy, in terms of design I think Galaxy looks better that iPhone, I do believe the UI is the week point for Samsung, not the OS, just the UI part, iOS has better animations for example, haven't try One UI yet but lets see how it works one my S8 gets the update.
 
it is that time of year, where you can't really compare Samsung's newest model, to Apple's LAST model. Samsung has always done this dance where they try to get their newest tech out in front of the newest iPhone debut which has become predictably every fall. Hole-y front cam, batman! The screenshots from this S10 are just weird, FWIW IMO. From a UI standpoint, how does the user click on a link if it renders on the page under that camera? Even the iPhone X notch is responsive if you want to jump back to the top of a page, just double-tap.
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Big step up by Samsung. Good job. Apple must counter.
With 4 cameras and 2 hole punches..?
 
You can program an alternate appearance with FaceID... You could use it with your masked face, just fyi.

In OR you should have gloves which makes fingerprint useless anyway, and oh...in an OR please leave your phone off!

Are you implying you don’t wear gloves the OR?

Why in the hell are you using a dirty ass phone in an OR for. Geeze, put the phone down and pay attention.

Gee, thanks for all the help from people who don't work in an OR, and/or don't have a clue how my OR works. Can't imagine how I could do it without you!

1 - Face ID does not work, for me or anyone else that I know, with an OR mask. I've tried it multiple times with my X, with an XR, and a XS.
2 - In the OR, we wear masks all the time, but we don't wear gloves unless we are touching the patient or something that is potentially dirty. We take our gloves off afterwards, before we touch anything else. 98% of the time, no one, except the surgeon, and the other people scrubbed in, are wearing gloves in the OR.
3 - For me, Touch ID works through gloves, about 75% of the time. It's rare that I do this though. Usually, I put gloves on, touch potentially dirty surface, then take gloves off.
4 - Phones can be kept clean, and mine gets wiped 4-5 times per day
5 - Most anesthesiologists manage multiple rooms, as well as communicating with the preop and postop areas, plus offsite areas like obstetrics, cath labs, floors, and clinics. We are in constant phone contact with our partners, assistants, and nurses. I've seen groups where partners carry two phones to keep up with all of their communication and coordination needs. I manage with one phone and my iPad mini.
6 - In a typical day, many anesthesiologist will send over 100 texts, and answer innumerable phone calls. Busy days can be twice that.
7 - I rely on my phone, ipad, and watch to stay in contact, document patient care, stay organized, and be available to all the people who need me.

So, thanks for the help folks. Really appreciate the insight!

For the record, I actually LOVE face ID when I'm not in the OR. For me, it works so much better for managing passwords, responding to calls and texts, Apple pay, etc. I think the best touch ID position is on the side, like the Galaxy S10e.

For me, the perfect phone would be dual sim, have both touch and Apple's FaceID, and have Samsung's secure folder. It wouldn't have a notch or a punch. It would have a small forehead where the cameras are. The phone speaker and microphone would be on the back of the phone. Whoever though that putting them on the screen side, where the face and hair would be against the screen, was a good idea?

Although I've been completely locked into Apple's ecosystem for some 23 years, I'm going to give the Samsung a go this year. I may be right back to the iPhone in a few months. Who knows? My kid really liked the switch to Samsung, so maybe I will too.
 
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I got my S10+ yesterday (white ceramic 512GB version) and so far I am not impressed at all. I went to the AT&T store to get a new number for it since I'm running with two phones (other is iPhone XS Max) and it successfully rang when I called it. Within ten minutes after leaving the store, it no longer worked. I had no ability to make calls (Emergency only) and can't access any data on my plan at all.

On top of that, Face recognition and fingerprint stinks. Both fail more than half the time and I recorded three fingers just to make sure.

At the moment, the phone still has no cellular connectivity, though WiFi works. AT&T tech support says it's correctly provisioned and should be working, but it isn't working at all. Thumbs down on this phone.
 
And completely unsafe to other drivers to interact with your phone while driving.
I see you are going here again.
Firstly, when one's phone is unlocked, it is available to a passenger to use. Secondly, interacting with Google Assistant is no more dangerous than interacting with a passenger.
 
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I personally can’t understand why there are so many Samsung and Google drones who are on this site daily. I can only think of a couple of times I’ve been on an Android fan site like https://phandroid.com/. Oddly, there were zero Apple fans there. Also zero Apple love articles like found on what used to be where people who liked Apple could go in peace to hang out.

Sorry, I hadn’t realised I had stumbled on your turf and it was exclusively your website. I didn’t know it was a “fans site! I come here to read about tech in general with an Apple twist, but the former mostly. However, to be fair I garner most enjoyment reading and contributing to the forums and reading about the excruciating lengths some “fans” go to defend the indefensible. (From both points of view). I didn’t know I had to be in the gang first though.
 
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Must agree with dnichter here. People who throw that nasty word around simply come off as an ass. You're better than that.
 
Samsung's flagships haven't been competitive with the iPhone from a market perspective since the iPhone 4/4s era. It's actually kind of funny how hard tech sites try to present Samsung as if it's a major competitor that's challenging Apple.
 



Respected Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who works for TF International Securities, today increased his forecast of Galaxy S10 shipments by 30 percent due to better than expected pre-order demand.

Kuo attributes the better-than-expected shipment momentum to several factors including spec differentiation from iPhone models.

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As Kuo points out, there are notable differences between Samsung's newest phone and Apple's current crop of iPhones. Samsung devices have a triple-lens camera setup with an ultra-wide lens, and an ultrasonic under-display fingerprint sensor.

Apple is rumored to be planning to introduce a similar camera setup in the 2019 iPhones, but because it uses Face ID facial recognition instead of a fingerprint sensor, Samsung's under-display fingerprint recognition technology will continue to set it apart from Apple.

Kuo believes the under-display fingerprint sensor and the triple camera are the "spotlights" of the S10 series.

Samsung's Galaxy S10 and S10+ are available for pre-order and are set to launch later this week.

Article Link: Kuo Increases Galaxy S10 Shipment Estimates Due to 'Spec Differentiation From iPhone Models'
I haven’t read all the comments yet, but no surprise here.

The Galaxy S10 has the upper hand over the iPhone 10S and even crushes the iPhone in Speedtest.
I think 2019 will be an very important year for Apple. But as a customer I can only applaud this is happening. Seems Apple has to lower their prices and offer better and bigger upgrades in hard- and software to stay relevant.

The new snapdragon is beating the A12:

Look how bad the graphics go on the iPhone and how fluid they go on the Galaxy S10

But I’m afraid I’ll be hearing all these test are biased from some :rolleyes:
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Samsung's flagships haven't been competitive with the iPhone from a market perspective since the iPhone 4/4s era. It's actually kind of funny how hard tech sites try to present Samsung as if it's a major competitor that's challenging Apple.
Well the Samsung Galaxy S10 might not be that popular in the USA. But over here they are and considering the phone is doing all things better, even is speedier and I can get it with free air buds included for a third less than the iPhone XS... well, I think we have a winner.
 
Samsung's flagships haven't been competitive with the iPhone from a market perspective since the iPhone 4/4s era. It's actually kind of funny how hard tech sites try to present Samsung as if it's a major competitor that's challenging Apple.
Think it’s foolish to think samsung aren’t a major competitor for apple. In fact unless apple starts stepping their game up they will be in big trouble from other companies too. The comp are putting out great devices with great performance while costing a lot less. No surprise more are going to android.
 
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And here I thought nobody actually cared about specs, they just wanted the newest and latest from their respective brand. Maybe more people are making the switch, or maybe this is all smoke and mirrors; time will tell.
 
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