Kuo Increases Galaxy S10 Shipment Estimates Due to 'Spec Differentiation From iPhone Models'

[I7guy]

Well, Appleinsider is the most Pro Apple site I know off. Can’t imagine they put something on their site that will hurt Apple or put biased tests online.

What I do know is that 2019 was the year Apple lost its speed crown. And together with the excessive pricing it could go down very fast. Remember Nokia? Or Samsung for that matter... Samsung went from 30% marketshare to 1% in China in a timespan of 2 years.

Wonder how Apple will go... because Apple isn’t the fastest company to respond anymore

Actually according to anandtech the a12 crushed the snapdragon. Apple never lost it to begin with.
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I was reading that US military uses Samsung devices because they're secure especially due to Knox.

If iOS is safer why do they prefer Samsung? I chose iOS for the privacy mostly but I'm curious if Apple's safety and security is just marketing after all.

Some US military units are/have ditched android for iOS precisely due to security.

 

[dialogos]

You brought it up. However if the of the requirement is unlock in the car different ways to accomplish this so that a passenger can use your phone. It’s illegal in my state to interact physically with your phone and if a cop notices that you will get a ticket. And no your last statement is patently false as evidenced by many studies.
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As one conjecture is as good as another apple will swallow up the entire mobile smartphone model.

There are times I trust Google more than Apple. Let me explain by giving an example.

For people in the medical field what Apple did by having iCloud photos turned on by default when buying a new phone is just a huge mistake. People don't need to understand the consequences. I know lot of people in the medical field who were taking photos of medical documents and they were not realising that everything was on cloud - which is illegal plain and simple

At least with Google things are a little bit more straight forward. Google scans everything but it keeps users informed about what will be transmitted to the cloud. Colleagues I have so far haven't found their photos accidentally on Google photos (unless they specifically chose it) .. On the other hand with Apple it's another story.

I can keep going on about things Apple did simply wrong.

As I mentioned before Knox is HIPAA compliant. Which is a huge thing!

Right now I own lot of Apple devices , I don't want to be one of those people who complain but as a customer I'm super sceptical about buying an Apple device again.

Another point very important here. Samsung is not only cheaper than iPhone. In 6 months here in Europe it will be even 20-30% cheaper. I don't care about resale value. When I buy something as expensive I want the best technology at the best price I can get today.

 

[I7guy]

And again Apple is coming to the party when the party is over.

If you believe your metaphor the party is over, you have to pay more attention to what apple is doing. But to each their own.

 

[dialogos]

Actually according to anandtech the a12 crushed the snapdragon. Apple never lost it to begin with.
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Some US military units are/have ditched android for iOS precisely due to security.

So they were using Android then switched to iOS and now back to Samsung? That's what I understand from what you're saying. I had no idea they were using Android in the past.

Just google for Samsung and US military and you will find plenty of articles. I'm not an expert. I read it on the news.

 

[ani4ani]

I meant you were trying to be smart.

I know what you meant; hopefully you’re smart enough to what I meant!
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My take on the debate between which is better, FaceID or TouchID. Neither is better than the other! It's all personal preference. My gosh how some people are so dense.

I was a big fan of TouchID when it came out. Then I had an iPhone X, used FaceID for a year, then got an XS MAX and still used FaceID for a few months. Then I sold it and got a Pixel 3 XL, and now back to TouchID. I prefer TouchID much more. Am I saying it's better? No, I am just saying I like it better. It's irrelevant why I like it better, and it's irrelevant why other's like FaceID better. We all like what we like, and to argue with someone over this saying you are right and I am wrong is crazy.

Nice to have the choice though

 

[Gilligan's last elephant]

It’s all relevant to keep you guys straight with facts.

A very creative and nice solution

Look how Apple is trying to hide the nodge:

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Lol, just lol

I'll join you in the lol Bizarre.

 

[calzon65]

I hope Apple keeps the low end sweet and petite SE with the jack, fingerprint sensor, and updated internals. I would finally move on from my 6s. Otherwise, my 6s will just have to keep going as long as it can. If I have to leave iOS, I will. I still have at least a year or two.

Would love to see an SE updated to the latest CPU but keep the other base features like the fingerprint sensor and traditional audio jack. It would give Apple a lower cost model that still has good performance to run the latest versions of IOS.

 

[Gilligan's last elephant]

Why would you want a fingerprint sensor when you can have facial recognition that is more accurate and secure?

If your statement is comparing security of FaceID and Samsung's Ultrasonic fingerprint scanner, I await the YouTube videos showing the wrong person unlocking an S10 range phone with their fingerprint.

 

[Baymowe335]

I predict the S10 will overtake Apple’s volume this year. By the time Apple is releasing its incremental update in September/October. Samsung’s next flagship the Note will come out to deliver the knockout

You predict the S10 is going to sell 200M units?

Yeah, and the Earth is flat.

 

[kemal]

I wish Apple would copy the S9. Minimum bezels. Touch ID on the back.

 

[mi7chy]

Touch ID on the back.

Side mounted is most optimal for all use cases from pulling out of pocket, car dash mounted and laying on table. Back fingerprint doesn't work well when car dash mounted or laying on table.

 

[Gilligan's last elephant]

You brought it up. However if the of the requirement is unlock in the car different ways to accomplish this so that a passenger can use your phone. It’s illegal in my state to interact physically with your phone and if a cop notices that you will get a ticket. And no your last statement is patently false as evidenced by many studies.
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An Android device which is unlocked by BT and remains unlocked for the duration of a journey doesn't need any "different ways" to accomplish this. It just works. It just happens.

Voice commands to a dashboard/windscreen mounted phone are legal in the UK. And this is likely similar to hands free phone call for distraction. Obviously, a sub standard voice assistant may lead to a driver being distracted unduly, but that would be a different prosecution. Not unlike a driver arguing with a passenger and being distracted.

I have seen comments from people that one should be concentrating fully on the road when driving. However, if one did this during a driving test in the UK, one would very likely fail.

 

[ColdShadow]

Correct, which IMO is why the s10 is an iterative design. Even the under finger print sensor is not innovative, unless second to market is considered innovative.

it is not second in market,it is indeed the first ultra sonic scanner.the other one used by (I think) One Plus is a different tech,and not nearly as accurate,and it is not as fast.it is not an ULTRA SONIC SCANNER,and does not work with wet hands.

And phones that don’t deliver in today’s environment won’t succeed. Lagging behind the competition is a value call though.

what does that even mean? all evidence and reports and reviews showing S10 is a major hit,reviews are overwhelmingly positive, for new iPhones though it's the exact opposite sadly.

 

[9081094]

No. Samsung's face unlock is not secure.
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So you are predicting that S10 series will sell 200 million units?

Samsung flagships have sold perhaps something like 30 million per year in previous years..we are going to see insane growth for Samsung then

(By the way, Samsung hasn't reported unit sales in years. Nobody seems to care, but when Apple told they'll stop reporting unit sales...)

In reality Samsung is going to be in big trouble against the Chinese OEMs. If Huawei gets to enter US market it's going to be very bad for Samsung. The effect on Apple will be much smaller. People aren't any more likely to jump to Huawei than to Samsung from iOS. For existing Android users it's different though, very easy to switch.

We’ll see But there will be dark clouds above Apple the sooner then dark mode gets released.

 

[Tick410]

Man the iSheep are really dying inside right now! Samsung again as leading innovator and top dog, for less the price!

 

[stringbeanie]

I’d hop right over to the S10 if I didn’t love my Apple Watch. The XS max has had such pathetic phone use. Always getting the “call failed” notice

 

[9081094]

If you believe your metaphor the party is over, you have to pay more attention to what apple is doing. But to each their own.

I’m really trying to pay attention into what’s Apple been doing, but I’m falling asleep every time. Wake me up when there’s something going on at the Applefront.

Look at rumor sites, everybody is talking about competition and products from competitors. You know why? That’s where the movement is. There it’s happening.

 

[DNichter]

I am not sure why this debate is still going on. Any differences in specs, features, or software is so small today. It's all personal preference. You can't sit here and state one option is best, just that it's best for you. For the Android fans - higher specs or different features don't always make for a "better" overall experience. For the iPhone fans - Samsung is a viable competitor and they push Apple to be better. It's a win win. Either way, enjoy your platform of choice and respect others for their platform of choice.

 

[digger10]

The adapter has usb and Lightening but not a head phone output so you need another adapter or or a different rig but the point is..with older iPad or iPhones its not a problem.
Some of us would like the horsepower of the new iPads or iPhones for running synths and not have to bring
a bunch of adapters. So is it thousands of people that would like the headphone jack back or millions,
no idea but a lot of musicians, DJ's and performers.

Yep, it's even more annoying than this when using Apple own adapter to watch an iTunes movie. A 3.5" jack and an all utility port with a larger bandwidth, like, say, a USB-c connector would do the job, but. That ecosystem...

 

[I7guy]

I’m really trying to pay attention into what’s Apple been doing, but I’m falling asleep every time. Wake me up when there’s something going on at the Applefront.

Look at rumor sites, everybody is talking about competition and products from competitors. You know why? That’s where the movement is. There it’s happening.

This rumor site has been discussing the competition as far back as I remember, so nothing new there. And whatever your opinion of Apple you’re entitled to it, I just dont agree with it.
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it is not second in market,it is indeed the first ultra sonic scanner.the other one used by (I think) One Plus is a different tech,and not nearly as accurate,and it is not as fast.it is not an ULTRA SONIC SCANNER,and does not work with wet hands.

Samsung is not the first with an under the display reader, so that in and of itself is not innovative. The placement isn’t innovative, maybe the tech under the covers is.

what does that even mean? all evidence and reports and reviews showing S10 is a major hit,reviews are overwhelmingly positive, for new iPhones though it's the exact opposite sadly.

It means what it says. The s10 may not be worth the $1000, but it’s worth it at the quick price drops and freebies. Btw, the xr had positive review and my max was worth every penny. Reviews be damned.

 

[dialogos]

Samsung is not the first with an under the display reader, so that in and of itself is not innovative. The placement isn’t innovative, maybe the tech under the covers is.

So for those who praise the innovation of apple with face ID we could also remind them that Apple is not the first with Face ID tech, so that itself is not innovative. Maybe the tech under the covers is.

... and anyway I keep reading here that Apple doesn't care to be the first to introduce something to people. They want the technology to be ready and perfect.. This is exactly what Samsung did with the fingerprint now. I tried it and it's very impressive!!

 

[SecuritySteve]

So for those who praise the innovation of apple with face ID we could also remind them that Apple is not the first with Face ID tech, so that itself is not innovative. Maybe the tech under the covers is.

... and anyway I keep reading here that Apple doesn't care to be the first to introduce something to people. They want the technology to be ready and perfect.. This is exactly what Samsung did with the fingerprint now. I tried it and it's very impressive!!

They are not the first. That would be invention. Improving on existing designs is by definition innovation. Apple is not usually inventive, just innovative.

 

[dialogos]

They are not the first. That would be invention. Improving on existing designs is by definition innovation. Apple is not usually inventive, just innovative.

So I assume Samsung's fingerprint scanner is innovative. Because I personally haven't seen something similar. I have played with OnePLus 6T when they introduced similar technology and I noticed a huge improvement with S10. It's just different. It works fast. ( I don't have an S10 but I did play with it for a while )

 

[Abazigal]

what does that even mean? all evidence and reports and reviews showing S10 is a major hit,reviews are overwhelmingly positive, for new iPhones though it's the exact opposite sadly.

Since when have reviews been an accurate predictor of sales?

The issue here is that the factors affecting the drop in iPhone sales are not solely confined to the iPhone. Be it the purported slowing economy in China, or people simply holding on to their phones longer, these are factors impacting the entire smartphone market, including Samsung.

And competitors such as xiaomi and Huawei look to pose more of a threat to Samsung than to Apple.

I predict another quarter of sharp decline in sales and profits for Samsung’s mobile division.

 

[avatar77]

Not about to give up my XS Max but that ultrasonic in-display fingerprint reader is pretty nice. As a desk drone, having to pick up my phone and point it at my face every time I unlock it is tedious.