Kuo Increases Galaxy S10 Shipment Estimates Due to 'Spec Differentiation From iPhone Models'

[aero7]

The finger print sensor wins the day in my book... enough for me to actually be considering switching from my current 6s Plus.
I'm not a fan of Face ID on any device and Apples take on the technology is cumbersome.

Really, did you try it? I was skeptical, much like or even more than I was before with Touch ID.
But honestly, Face ID is by far the best and most flawless implementation of a technology I've ever encountered. They nailed it.
Fingerprint? You need to actively think about that, you need to learn to put your finger on the right spot and even if it's super fast, it's a cognitive burden. You probably don't realize that, because you grow accustomed to it, but it's still there.
Face ID on the other hand is gone. It's just not there, you don't feel it, you don't see it, it vanishes. It's not discernible from having no passcode at all. I'm still stunned. I can't and I won't go back to fingerprints.

 

[9081094]

This rumor site has been discussing the competition as far back as I remember, so nothing new there. And whatever your opinion of Apple you’re entitled to it, I just dont agree with it.

Dear mr I7guy, I know we don’t agree and I respect your different opinion. Wish Apple was putting that much passion and involvement into their products as you’re doing for them.

 

[PickUrPoison]

So I assume Samsung's fingerprint scanner is innovative. Because I personally haven't seen something similar. I have played with OnePLus 6T when they introduced similar technology and I noticed a huge improvement with S10. It's just different. It works fast. ( I don't have an S10 but I did play with it for a while )

If innovative means buying the fingertip scanner from Qualcomm, then yes, Samsung is innovative.

 

[9081094]

Since when have reviews been an accurate predictor of sales?

The issue here is that the factors affecting the drop in iPhone sales are not solely confined to the iPhone. Be it the purported slowing economy in China, or people simply holding on to their phones longer, these are factors impacting the entire smartphone market, including Samsung.

And competitors such as xiaomi and Huawei look to pose more of a threat to Samsung than to Apple.

I predict another quarter of sharp decline in sales and profits for Samsung’s mobile division.

I don’t know under what rock you’re living but china’s Economy is doing very well. Most countries are looking at their economy growth wit envy and they’re not heading for a decline in the foreseeable future.

Since your assumptions are not up to date and you haven’t tried any other stuff besides Apple, I don’t take your opinion seriously.

 

[PickUrPoison]

I’d hop right over to the S10 if I didn’t love my Apple Watch. The XS max has had such pathetic phone use. Always getting the “call failed” notice

It’s either a bad phone or a problem with your carrier. Tens of millions of XS users aren’t having your issue.

 

[Abazigal]

I don’t know under what rock you’re living but china’s Economy is doing very well. Most countries are looking at their economy growth wit envy and they’re not heading for a decline in the foreseeable future.

Since your assumptions are not up to date and you haven’t tried any other stuff besides Apple, I don’t take your opinion seriously.

And they call me the delusional one.

I guess it’s a good thing that my posts don’t live and die by your opinions of them then.

 

[9081094]

I guess my post wasn't clear, I didn't say Samsung wasn't losing money on it's phone business, but I specifically called out their top tier phones like the ones that were released, which don't sell in enough numbers to make a profitable dent.

Are you sure about that? In many countries they’re in the top listings of best selling phones.
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And they call me the delusional one.

I guess it’s a good thing that my posts don’t live and die by your opinions of them then.

I agree with your first line and regret the second line won’t become true

 

[MoreRumors?]

Then respectfully, you need to broaden your horizon. Because the S10 not also offering a new biometric option with the finger print reader under the display, but they returned the 3.5 mm Jack, and introduced the triple lens camera which is the same technology expected to debut on the 2019 iPhone. So, are you indicating that when Apple introduces their triple lens camera, that will ‘stand out to you’? Because as of now, that’s really the only expected major technology for the 2019 iPhone.

(On a sidenote: As an Apple fan myself, which others know that I am, you can’t dismiss everything Samsung does, they need to be acknowledged, it can’t be just a ‘one-sided everything Apple argument’, not when one of Apple’s largest competitor is Samsung in the smart phone sector. )

Well said!

 

[I7guy]

An Android device which is unlocked by BT and remains unlocked for the duration of a journey doesn't need any "different ways" to accomplish this. It just works. It just happens.

Voice commands to a dashboard/windscreen mounted phone are legal in the UK. And this is likely similar to hands free phone call for distraction. Obviously, a sub standard voice assistant may lead to a driver being distracted unduly, but that would be a different prosecution. Not unlike a driver arguing with a passenger and being distracted.

I have seen comments from people that one should be concentrating fully on the road when driving. However, if one did this during a driving test in the UK, one would very likely fail.

Keeping a device unlocked is not even considered a use case it just happens. Hard to believe this is touted as a feature.( I have seen comments from people touting assistants are safe to interact with...people have to do their homework)

 

[9081094]

my iPhone Xs during pre order (with ofcourse no free goodies or real discounts to be found): €1159
my S10 pre ordered a week ago with a nice discount and sold my free Samsung Buds, at the end I paid: €619

so that's a difference of more than €500 (and double the storage )

It's not that hard to see the absolute greed to money Apple has. Every company has it ofcourse, but Apple is King is being greedy for money.

Selling a plastic clear case for the iPhone Xr for $45 which costs about $0.90 to make is ofcourse the ultimate example of Apples greed to money and not the greed for customer experience anymore.

The mac was first and now the iPhone seems to follow. How much more damage and mismanagement does this company need to get back to it's senses?

Some Apple fans keep on bragging about their high profits. Even as they would double the amount of effort in their neglected hard- and software lines, it will take years to see something coming to fruition.

Remember blackberry and Nokia. In a matter of years the whole landscape can be changing and the writings are on the wall for years now.

 

[dialogos]

If innovative means buying the fingertip scanner from Qualcomm, then yes, Samsung is innovative.

however we define innovation, S10 has great technology that as a consumer I'm not willing to wait for years for Apple to introduce. To me as a consumer it's a great device.

I'm a long time Apple user but it seems Apple now is all about making users waiting for small improvements, higher prices, lower quality compared to the past.

As a tech enthusiast but not a tech expert I want to have access to the best technology can offer to me. I want to enjoy it. Not to wait for a couple of years until my favourite company introduces a "better" technology. We should support good technology, not companies.

 

[alexhardaker]

I know what you meant; hopefully you’re smart enough to what I meant!
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Nice to have the choice though

You’re boring me now

 

[torana355]

I predict another quarter of sharp decline in sales and profits for Samsung’s mobile division.

From all accounts the S10 has been selling very well, far from a "sharp decline" . Then again i would be shocked to see you give credit where it's due outside of anything Apple and that is what makes it so hard to take anything you write seriously.

 

[I7guy]

So for those who praise the innovation of apple with face ID we could also remind them that Apple is not the first with Face ID tech, so that itself is not innovative. Maybe the tech under the covers is.

... and anyway I keep reading here that Apple doesn't care to be the first to introduce something to people. They want the technology to be ready and perfect.. This is exactly what Samsung did with the fingerprint now. I tried it and it's very impressive!!

I don’t believe what you said is true. Apple seemingly doesn’t throw the technological kitchen sink into a phone. Their fingerprint reader and facial recognition set new standards. Maybe Samsung’s fingerprint reader sets new standards for under the display fingerprint reader....

 

[9081094]

From all accounts the S10 has been selling very well, far from a "sharp decline"

The higher pricing gave Apple a nose bleed, the Samsung Galaxy S10 is giving Apple the black eye. The waiting is for the next to give it a knockout.

 

[I7guy]

Dear mr I7guy, I know we don’t agree and I respect your different opinion. Wish Apple was putting that much passion and involvement into their products as you’re doing for them.

I’m not “that” passionate about Apple. They aren’t in the “pathetic state” that some are opining in, is my point.

 

[9081094]

I’m not “that” passionate about Apple. They aren’t in the “pathetic state” that some are opining in, is my point.

Doesn’t matter, I admire you’re fierce defending them although I don’t agree

 

[dialogos]

I don’t believe what you said is true. Apple seemingly doesn’t throw the technological kitchen sink into a phone. Their fingerprint reader and facial recognition set new standards. Maybe Samsung’s fingerprint reader sets new standards for under the display fingerprint reader....

hello i7guy, what exactly is not true? The fact that Samsung's scanner is much better than OnePlus? Or that apple wasn't the first company with face id software?

 

[Baymowe335]

I don’t know under what rock you’re living but china’s Economy is doing very well. Most countries are looking at their economy growth wit envy and they’re not heading for a decline in the foreseeable future.

Since your assumptions are not up to date and you haven’t tried any other stuff besides Apple, I don’t take your opinion seriously.

Check your own rock.

1) China embellishes their economic numbers.
2) Several companies pointed to China slowing down in the 4th quarter last year. Goodyear, Caterpillar, Intel, Apple, etc.
3) China's actual GDP growth has slowed a lot by their standard, and again, are embellished.
4) China is using stimulus RIGHT NOW because of their slowing economy.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/05/chi...g-on-tax-cuts-monetary-stimulus-in-china.html

 

[Abazigal]

The higher pricing gave Apple a nose bleed, the Samsung Galaxy S10 is giving Apple the black eye. The waiting is for the next to give it a knockout.

What if I told you that iPhone sales will be better than estimated this quarter?

 

[9081094]

Check your own rock.

1) China embellishes their economic numbers.
2) Several companies pointed to China slowing down in the 4th quarter last year. Goodyear, Caterpillar, Intel, Apple, etc.
3) China's actual GDP growth has slowed a lot by their standard, and again, are embellished.
4) China is using stimulus RIGHT NOW because of their slowing economy.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/05/chi...g-on-tax-cuts-monetary-stimulus-in-china.html

Here some numbers for you. Growth numbers from which the countries you and I are coming from only can dream of. The companies you’re mentioning in your point 2 are western or American companies and they’re taken over by Chinese counterparts in terms of success

https://tradingeconomics.com/china/gdp-growth-annual
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What if I told you that iPhone sales will be better than estimated this quarter?

I would say your disillusionment is getting proven

 

[Gilligan's last elephant]

Keeping a device unlocked is not even considered a use case it just happens. Hard to believe this is touted as a feature.( I have seen comments from people touting assistants are safe to interact with...people have to do their homework)

Are you suggesting that when driving saying "OK Google, navigate to X" is unsafe? Eyes never deviating from view of road ahead, hands staying in steering wheel???
Are you suggesting a car with a factory fitted voice operated navigation system is unsafe?
Do you condsider Car Play to be safe?

 

[9081094]

What if I told you that iPhone sales will be better than estimated this quarter?

Apple’s profits are going substantially down next quarter compared to the year ago quarter due to lower pricing in China and due to competition and higher pricing in other countries.

 

[BigBoy2018]

My take on the debate between which is better, FaceID or TouchID. Neither is better than the other! It's all personal preference. My gosh how some people are so dense.

I was a big fan of TouchID when it came out. Then I had an iPhone X, used FaceID for a year, then got an XS MAX and still used FaceID for a few months. Then I sold it and got a Pixel 3 XL, and now back to TouchID. I prefer TouchID much more. Am I saying it's better? No, I am just saying I like it better. It's irrelevant why I like it better, and it's irrelevant why other's like FaceID better. We all like what we like, and to argue with someone over this saying you are right and I am wrong is crazy.

If I'm one of the ones you're miffed at, as far as I'm concerned all I was ever doing was explaining why I, personally, would prefer touchID over faceID. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Are you suggesting that when driving saying "OK Google, navigate to X" is unsafe? Eyes never deviating from view of road ahead, hands staying in steering wheel???
Are you suggesting a car with a factory fitted voice operated navigation system is unsafe?
Do you condsider Car Play to be safe?

when I was with my girlfriend in the 90's, car play was very unsafe.

 

[Abazigal]

Check your own rock.

1) China embellishes their economic numbers.
2) Several companies pointed to China slowing down in the 4th quarter last year. Goodyear, Caterpillar, Intel, Apple, etc.
3) China's actual GDP growth has slowed a lot by their standard, and again, are embellished.
4) China is using stimulus RIGHT NOW because of their slowing economy.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/05/chi...g-on-tax-cuts-monetary-stimulus-in-china.html

Thanks for the assist.

The critics here will deny that the earth is round if they thought it would help them bash Apple.