Kuo Increases Galaxy S10 Shipment Estimates Due to 'Spec Differentiation From iPhone Models'

[BigBoy2018]

Even my old 5s works with wet/damp hands, I never tried with full on dripping wet.

yea, just a little wet and I can pretty much fergetabboutit. You're fingerprints must be bigger than my finger prints and therefore can work through wetness.

P.S. size of fingerprints should in no way be interpreted as a relation to size of any other body part.

 

[I7guy]

I get the impression you haven't tried the new fingerprint scanner. Give it a try and let us know if it raises the standards

And my iphone will not work with wet hands

I'm going to need to take a video, but it's way too much work to "prove" some point. But the under display finger print reader, you're tacitly agreeing with me. A faster fingerprint reader is not innovation in and of itself.

 

[dialogos]

Even my old 5s works with wet/damp hands, I never tried with full on dripping wet.

I find it hard to believe. I had the 5s.

If you don't mind me asking. Have you tried Samsung's new fingerprint scanner? Because I understand you're willing to support Apple even if you haven't tried the competition

If you have no experience with it you can't understand what we're talking about and why we're saying it raises the bar.

 

[BigBoy2018]

I'm going to need to take a video, but it's way too much work to "prove" some point. But the under display finger print reader, you're tacitly agreeing with me. A faster fingerprint reader is not innovation in and of itself.

Then neither are the 'faster' A chips that apple keeps developing, if you want to be fair.

But all the Apple supporters here bring up how 'innovative' apple is with their chips.

 

[1050792]

No point arguing, some people breathe Apple and that's all...

 

[dialogos]

I'm going to need to take a video, but it's way too much work to "prove" some point. But the under display finger print reader, you're tacitly agreeing with me. A faster fingerprint reader is not innovation in and of itself.

no need to take a video. I just had a different experience. I have no reason to doubt your personal experience.

 

[PickUrPoison]

however we define innovation, S10 has great technology that as a consumer I'm not willing to wait for years for Apple to introduce. To me as a consumer it's a great device.

I'm a long time Apple user but it seems Apple now is all about making users waiting for small improvements, higher prices, lower quality compared to the past.

As a tech enthusiast but not a tech expert I want to have access to the best technology can offer to me. I want to enjoy it. Not to wait for a couple of years until my favourite company introduces a "better" technology. We should support good technology, not companies.

Awesome, enjoy your S10. I have no interest in it since it runs Android but for those who like Android I’m sure they’ll love it. Keep it four or five years and it will be a pretty good value, too.

 

[dialogos]

Awesome, enjoy your S10. I have no interest in it since it runs Android but for those who like Android I’m sure they’ll love it. Keep it four or five years and it will be a pretty good value, too.

Thank you. I may enjoy it if I decide to buy it.

 

[BigBoy2018]

Awesome, enjoy your S10. I have no interest in it since it runs Android but for those who like Android I’m sure they’ll love it. Keep it four or five years and it will be a pretty good value, too.

I agree. I just wish I could swallow android, but I've used iOS since 2008 and am just to used to it. In so many ways, I think I would prefer some of the android hardware out there, but I'm kind of trapped at this point.

I guess that makes me a sad, conflicted cat.

 

[0388631]

Think it’s foolish to think samsung aren’t a major competitor for apple. In fact unless apple starts stepping their game up they will be in big trouble from other companies too. The comp are putting out great devices with great performance while costing a lot less. No surprise more are going to android.

They aren't if you're too deep into the Apple eco-system or simply don't like Android. Those who are open to change... I'll agree with you.
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I was reading that US military uses Samsung devices because they're secure especially due to Knox.

If iOS is safer why do they prefer Samsung? I chose iOS for the privacy mostly but I'm curious if Apple's safety and security is just marketing after all.

https://support.samsungknox.com/hc/...Knox-platform-certified-by-the-US-government-

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201159

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202739
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For example Samsung Knox is Hipaa compliant. iOS isn't

This is true. Some third-party iOS apps are HIPAA compliant, but iOS and iMessages are not secure enough and were never really evaluated.

I might be wrong, but @bradl knows more about device HIPAA compliance than most normal people... I think.
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One thing that I've noticed between iOS and Android is the sound quality is much more clearer on a Android Device . Must more Base, clearer highs etc.. . seems like Apple forces everyone to stay at the same settings when it comes to music. But in general sound is much better on a Android Device.

This is highly dependent on what speaker system is used and whether it's a stereo or mono system. Most Androids come with a built in full equalizer with presets and manual control. You really gotta use them in person to figure it out and not something you see on YouTube like Unbox Therapy who makes it a point to blast dumb music all the time.
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Sorry I don’t spend 1k on a phone just to get faster updates. Certainly when the software updates you get on IOS still don’t give you the same features android already has

That's because our core native apps update regularly through the store while iOS needs to wait for gold or incremental releases.

 

[I7guy]

I find it hard to believe. I had the 5s.

If you don't mind me asking. Have you tried Samsung's new fingerprint scanner? Because I understand you're willing to support Apple even if you haven't tried the competition

If you have no experience with it you can't understand what we're talking about and why we're saying it raises the bar.

The reviews seem to indicate so?
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Then neither are the 'faster' A chips that apple keeps developing, if you want to be fair.

But all the Apple supporters here bring up how 'innovative' apple is with their chips.

My own personal benchmark of innovation is that the a12 coupled with neural engine is fairly innovative as an example. And I didn't say Samsung's implementation of the under display finger print scanner wasn't innovative. I said the under the display finger print scanner had already been done by the time Samsung announced the product.

 

[farewelwilliams]

Yep, it's even more annoying than this when using Apple own adapter to watch an iTunes movie. A 3.5" jack and an all utility port with a larger bandwidth, like, say, a USB-c connector would do the job, but. That ecosystem...

HDR is still fairly new. Even Windows 10 has one of the worst experiences in playing HDR content (literally your entire desktop has to switch over to HDR mode which makes the entire UI washed out) and I think macOS still doesn't have full HDR support yet.
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The adapter has usb and Lightening but not a head phone output so you need another adapter or or a different rig but the point is..with older iPad or iPhones its not a problem.
Some of us would like the horsepower of the new iPads or iPhones for running synths and not have to bring
a bunch of adapters. So is it thousands of people that would like the headphone jack back or millions,
no idea but a lot of musicians, DJ's and performers.

if you're a DJ/performer, you probably wouldn't be playing professionally off an iPad only. lots of equipment involved.

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Yep those curved edges and the hole punch just scream iphone.

this one screams pretty loud to me.

 

[Shanghaichica]

HDR is still fairly new. Even Windows 10 has one of the worst experiences in playing HDR content (literally your entire desktop has to switch over to HDR mode which makes the entire UI washed out) and I think macOS still doesn't have full HDR support yet.
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if you're a DJ/performer, you probably wouldn't be playing professionally off an iPad only. lots of equipment involved.

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this one screams pretty loud to me.

Is that the the S10?

 

[Apple66]

As a user, who have experienced many of the iterations that Apple released on their iPhones - have to say at first, I was very skeptical with Face ID. And one of those who always thought Touch ID was superior. After using the X series for at least one week straight (currently have the XS Max model and coming from the iPhone 7), you do get the feeling that Apple knew what they were doing when making this change. Unlocking the iPhone has become such a breeze and relaxing to do, when combined with the built-in feature of tapping anywhere on the screen to turn the phone on. As I don’t have to keep looking for the home and side buttons to press anymore. Looking back it is kinda cumbersome and clumsily repetitive, especially if you keep checking frequently on emails, browsing on the web, and etc. The implementation of Face ID is probably the ultimate and smoothest method of unlocking a device. During my everyday use, it certainly provides a magical and beautiful seamless feeling of getting to the home screen, when iPhone is off. Even with Samsung’s under the display fingerprint technology (it appears to be just an incremental improvement with their all screen design), and still seems ancient and going backwards. Where Face ID is vastly more modern and futuristic and years ahead. Face ID has grown on me, and has proven to be the best secure way. I really like how it provides a nice feeling of satisfaction when it unlocks to the home screen so effortlessly. And for those who live in wintry climates with dry hands, that is no longer a problem. Face ID really makes using the iPhone an incredible user experience. Still for those people who are skeptical, it is understandable, but eventually you will definitely “feel it” that this is a worthy upgrade, once you start using it daily.

 

[BigBoy2018]

That's the last line of defense for maniacal apple supporters: hope the mods notice this kind of mild so-called name calling and ban the critics rather than actually make a valid argument.
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HDR is still fairly new. Even Windows 10 has one of the worst experiences in playing HDR content (literally your entire desktop has to switch over to HDR mode which makes the entire UI washed out) and I think macOS still doesn't have full HDR support yet.
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if you're a DJ/performer, you probably wouldn't be playing professionally off an iPad only. lots of equipment involved.

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this one screams pretty loud to me.

those are mild cosmetic similarities. And think about it, how many ways are there to make a rectangle with a screen on one side that needs a power port, a headphone jack, and way for the speakers to emit sound? The differences that matter aren't in these cosmetic things anyway, but in the internals and the capabilities.

 

[Seoras]

The finger print sensor wins the day in my book... enough for me to actually be considering switching from my current 6s Plus.
I'm not a fan of Face ID on any device and Apples take on the technology is cumbersome.

Eh? Says the guy with a 6S who hasn't actually bought and used anything like an X or newer.

If you ever do any real work with your hands you quickly find out just how useless a finger print is when it gets damaged, cut or rubbed smooth.

I just shake my head at these sort of comments...

 

[BigBoy2018]

Eh? Says the guy with a 6S who hasn't actually bought and used anything like an X or newer.

If you ever do any real work with your hands you quickly find out just how useless a finger print is when it gets damaged, cut or rubbed smooth.

I just shake my head at these sort of comments...

But every time you shake your head your phone unlocks and becomes insecure to anyone who may be near it....

P.S. we don't have to experience faceID to understand that it'll unlock every time it recognizes our face, whether we want it to unlock at that moment or not. It's that absence of control that keeps me away from faceID.

 

[MoreRumors?]

My take on the debate between which is better, FaceID or TouchID. Neither is better than the other! It's all personal preference. My gosh how some people are so dense.

I was a big fan of TouchID when it came out. Then I had an iPhone X, used FaceID for a year, then got an XS MAX and still used FaceID for a few months. Then I sold it and got a Pixel 3 XL, and now back to TouchID. I prefer TouchID much more. Am I saying it's better? No, I am just saying I like it better. It's irrelevant why I like it better, and it's irrelevant why other's like FaceID better. We all like what we like, and to argue with someone over this saying you are right and I am wrong is crazy.

Lol, you should know by now you're not allowed to express your personal preferences here. It is quite amusing to read through all the posts made. Apple fans firing off at Samsung, Samsung fans firing off at Apple and Apple fanboys firing off at other Apple users. It is a no win situation. Yes you are correct in saying it is just impossible.

 

[BigBoy2018]

Lol, you should know by now you're not allowed to express your personal preferences here. It is quite amusing to read through all the posts made. Apple fans firing off at Samsung, Samsung fans firing off at Apple and Apple fanboys firing off at other Apple users. It is a no win situation. Yes you are correct in saying it is just impossible.

It's called differences in opinion and freedom of expression. Welcome to a country where free speech is allowed. Trust me, it's gotta be better than the place you must have come from previously, where everyone was forced to agree on everything I guess?

 

[Abazigal]

Apple’s profits are going substantially down next quarter compared to the year ago quarter due to lower pricing in China and due to competition and higher pricing in other countries.

My take is that we will see higher iPhone XR sales this quarter as Apple has been more aggressive with the marketing of the Xr. They also improved the trade-in values, making it more appealing.

Also, the iPhone XR is likely one of those products which you will see better sales some time after the launch, since it’s not a high-end flagship people will be rushing out to buy on day 1. So what we observed last quarter is not going to be representative of how it does throughout the year.

It’s basically appealing to a different customer, and my bet is that we will see higher iPhone XR sales buoy Apple’s earnings for this quarter.

In hindsight, Apple’s current XS / XS Max / Xr lineup is appearing to be more prescient by the day.

 

[Baymowe335]

Here some numbers for you. Growth numbers from which the countries you and I are coming from only can dream of. The companies you’re mentioning in your point 2 are western or American companies and they’re taken over by Chinese counterparts in terms of success

https://tradingeconomics.com/china/gdp-growth-annual
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I would say your disillusionment is getting proven

Growth rates don’t impress me from lower bases and again, I don’t believe numbers coming from China. $20T US economy versus $12T for China and they are still stimulating and exaggerating.

Apple is the #1 company in the world, $60B in net income. Fact. No one has taken that crown from Apple, including Huawei and Samsung.

Most of the top global companies are American companies.

Apple set records in your country too.

 

[MoreRumors?]

It's called differences in opinion and freedom of expression. Welcome to a country where free speech is allowed. Trust me, it's gotta be better than the place you must have come from previously, where everyone was forced to agree on everything I guess?

This has nothing to do with expressing opinion or freedom of speech. If I tell you I like steak, you can't tell me it is my opinion. If I tell you Samsung is better than Apple, then THAT is an opinion. Big difference between opinion and preference. There were quite a few people who have stated their preference and/or choice and were criticized as though they were not allowed to. Respect each other's choices. If a person offers an opinion, then by all means debate it if one wishes to do so.

 

[I7guy]

But every time you shake your head your phone unlocks and becomes insecure to anyone who may be near it....

P.S. we don't have to experience faceID to understand that it'll unlock every time it recognizes our face, whether we want it to unlock at that moment or not. It's that absence of control that keeps me away from faceID.

I don't walk around with my phone in front of my face without their being some use for it, I don't know about the rest of the world. Unless you have raise to wake set on the phone will not self-unlock (along with attention awareness). So yeah, if you deliberately attempt to unlock a phone when the screen is off and it's your face or the alternate, the phone will unlock. It's no different than touch id or any fingerprint reader in that regard.

 

[Baymowe335]

When they say that China economy is slowing it means that it still grows but it now grows at 6% instead of 6.5% which makes the explanation for Apple underperformance in the last quarter in China to sound really bogus. Chinese consumers were supposed to buy "just" 6% more iPhones (as opposed of customary 6.5%) than the previous year instead the sales cratered.

Not quite. Sales cratered in the 4th quarter not for the year. Apple still put up Growth in China for the trailing 12 months, despite the miss in calendar Q4.

What’s interesting about China is the growth slowed quickly and suddenly in the 4th quarter.

We need more than 1 quarter of data to see any type,of trend. Apple was doing great in China most of 2018. Recently, that story changed.

 

[Seoras]

But every time you shake your head your phone unlocks and becomes insecure to anyone who may be near it.....

LOL! Another one who hasn't tried it and has no clue how good it is or how it works.