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Kuo Increases Galaxy S10 Shipment Estimates Due to 'Spec Differentiation From iPhone Models'
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nope, just an example to support the statement: "Samsung has been copying Apple for years"
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even MKBHD put this comparison in his video review and said "the bottom of the galaxy s6 looks just like the iphone 6. quick, which one is which?".
...and a keyboard where you can see the number row...
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Anyone who says that has probably never owned and lived with a Galaxy phone.
Each generation has been a clear step forward. Not linear like the last few iPhone releases.
Here is a perspective that NO ONE has thought of.
Apple controls "App Discovery" in the iOS App Store.
They make their Decisions on which apps to promote & which ones NOT to based-upon "Politics".
Rarely, do the best apps get much attention in the app store.
Sometimes, AAPL's Iron First "back-fires" on them.
Case in point, there is ONE & ONLY one Burst Photo Camera App that AAPL could have used to showcase the benefits of the 4 GB of DRAM in the XS & XS Max, as well as in four of their newer iPad Pros.
However, when the Powers that Be (i.e., Cook & Schiller) want to suppress certain apps in the app store, they can in-deed so, but that can ALSO back-fire.
Samsung has clearly Learned certain things that AAPL's Upper Mgmt has NOT, the importance of DRAM to App Devs !
The $900 USD S10 includes 8 GB of DRAM, + lots of other Bells & Whistles.
It's just a matter of time before App Devs leverage what Samsung will be offering to the General Public tomorrow, March 8th !
Apple's iPhones simply don't compete right now !
Slight correction, to those who care about Perf, Samsung is now Top Dog ! ... don't UNDER-estimate the importance of DRAM ! ... both Cook & Schiller have !, & have done so BIG time !
Make NO mistake, both Cook & Schiller are gonna look even more stupid fairly soon.
Third-party S10 family App Devs will be making that crystal clear to many very soon ! ... via cool product attributes in their S10 apps !
Apple controls "App Discovery" in the iOS App Store.
They make their Decisions on which apps to promote & which ones NOT to based-upon "Politics".
Rarely, do the best apps get much attention in the app store.
Sometimes, AAPL's Iron First "back-fires" on them.
Case in point, there is ONE & ONLY one Burst Photo Camera App that AAPL could have used to showcase the benefits of the 4 GB of DRAM in the XS & XS Max, as well as in four of their newer iPad Pros.
However, when the Powers that Be (i.e., Cook & Schiller) want to suppress certain apps in the app store, they can in-deed so, but that can ALSO back-fire.
Samsung has clearly Learned certain things that AAPL's Upper Mgmt has NOT, the importance of DRAM to App Devs !
The $900 USD S10 includes 8 GB of DRAM, + lots of other Bells & Whistles.
It's just a matter of time before App Devs leverage what Samsung will be offering to the General Public tomorrow, March 8th !
Apple's iPhones simply don't compete right now !
Slight correction, to those who care about Perf, Samsung is now Top Dog ! ... don't UNDER-estimate the importance of DRAM ! ... both Cook & Schiller have !, & have done so BIG time !
Make NO mistake, both Cook & Schiller are gonna look even more stupid fairly soon.
Third-party S10 family App Devs will be making that crystal clear to many very soon ! ... via cool product attributes in their S10 apps !
I have used the s10 in the past 2 days. Pre order. Fantastic phone, display and hardware is top notch. However after the love affair of customizing, android vs ios differences do pop out quite fast once you start using it in daily manner. I will pass.
[doublepost=1552025557][/doublepost]HDR is still fairly new. Even Windows 10 has one of the worst experiences in playing HDR content (literally your entire desktop has to switch over to HDR mode which makes the entire UI washed out) and I think macOS still doesn't have full HDR support yet.
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if you're a DJ/performer, you probably wouldn't be playing professionally off an iPad only. lots of equipment involved.
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this one screams pretty loud to me.
[doublepost=1552025673][/doublepost]"if you're a DJ/performer, you probably wouldn't be playing professionally off an iPad only. lots of equipment involved."HDR is still fairly new. Even Windows 10 has one of the worst experiences in playing HDR content (literally your entire desktop has to switch over to HDR mode which makes the entire UI washed out) and I think macOS still doesn't have full HDR support yet.
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if you're a DJ/performer, you probably wouldn't be playing professionally off an iPad only. lots of equipment involved.
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this one screams pretty loud to me.
thats the point that you're missing entirely! We want less equipment...ie. an iPhone or an iPad with a headphone output!
couple of adapters isn't going to compare to a mixer with several cables. also i know many amateur producers that used the headphone jack in iPads and broke them from heavy use.
I don't live in a James Bond movie and I don't drive people that I don't trust or make me feel unsafe so what you say is absolutely irrelevant.
Also I have nothing to hide(so I don't start to sweat when somebody touches my phone) and anyway apps that need to be secure on my phone(like my banking apps, notes app etc.) can't be opened with a simple tap even if the phone is unlocked.
So yes Trusted Bluetooth Devices is a nice and very useful Android feature.
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LOL! Don't know and don't care. TouchID is what I prefer.
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Not sure what you're getting so sensitive about. For the most part as far as I can tell, this thread HAS been fairly respectful. With a couple of exceptions over the 22 page thread, not any name calling. The 'expressions of preference' do get a little heated at times, but it seems to me people are sticking to the point and not getting personal.
In my case, for instance, I often find myself at odds with the opinions/preferences of people like @I7guy and @Abazigal, but I have no doubt they're decent dudes who just really like their apple stuff, and are good people.
Sites like this are popular largely because of the lively, passionate discussion. So if some fairly adamant back and forth discussion makes you uncomfortable, maybe this is one of those threads you should take a break from?
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That would be accurate only if Samsung would use AOSP version of Android without and modifications, customizations or optimizations but no Phone OEM uses that versions because it's so bare bones it's unusable on a modern smartphone.
Also iOS is profitable for Apple so the argument that Android OEM have an advantage and save a lot of resources because they use Android which is made by Google is irrelevant.
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Touch ID was ok on its own. FaceID isnt. FaceID + TouchID would be ok.
What about if I told you that our planet is not round but a bumpy spheroid?
Would that be closer to the earth being round or flat?
It is the first ultra sonic scanner ,meaning it sends sonic waves to detect a 3D diagram of finger print.
it's very different than the other under display sensors that pretty much work like touch ID and physically sense the finger print.they are not nearly as accurate or fast.
the difference between samsung Ultra Sonic Scanner and other under disiplay sensors is similar to the difference between Face Id vs regular Face recognitions.
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You're not taking into account that competition has never been better and cheaper compared to Apple. Shaving of $ 100,- of an already excessive priced phone stays an excessive priced phone. Together with the introduction of the (in anyway better) Galaxy S10 already at much cheaper prices than the iPhone XS and with free air buds included, it will be a hard sell.
You should see this back in numbers and profits. Oh wait... Apple won't disclose any numbers anymore, am wondering why
Maybe the 60% margin on services will make something good. Because the iPhone is dead in the water.
Apple's excessive pricing gave it a nosebleed, the Samsung Galaxy S10 gave it a black eye... Waiting for the knockout
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That's expensive air
I think people vastly overestimate the power of the competition while simultaneously underestimating the stickiness of the Apple ecosystem.You're not taking into account that competition has never been better and cheaper compared to Apple. Shaving of $ 100,- of an already excessive priced phone stays an excessive priced phone. Together with the introduction of the (in anyway better) Galaxy S10 already at much cheaper prices than the iPhone XS and with free air buds included, it will be a hard sell.
You should see this back in numbers and profits. Oh wait... Apple won't disclose any numbers anymore, am wondering why
Maybe the 60% margin on services will make something good. Because the iPhone is dead in the water.
Apple's excessive pricing gave it a nosebleed, the Samsung Galaxy S10 gave it a black eye... Waiting for the knockout
For one, the existence of cheaper android phones is not a new phenomenon. It was the case back in 2013 when it seemed like everyone was so sure that Apple would lose to Samsung's S3 phone and a never-ending onslaught of cheaper, better-specced Android smartphones. For a while, it seemed like it was just me against the entire world on Cnet, each with their own "expert" take on why Apple was doomed.
And the world lost.
As it turned out, it would be the competition that would go on to crash and burn (no surprise there that selling tons of cheap handsets at razor-thin margins would not be a sustainable move, something which seems to have been conveniently overlooked by the "pundits"), and Apple would go on to sell even more iPhones at ever increasing ASPs.
I myself still don't quite know the exact reasons for this seemingly anomalous trend in consumer buying habits, but I am not one to look a gift horse in the mouth. What I can conclude, however, is that there is something in the user experience afforded by Apple products that goes beyond hardware specs. Maybe it's simply the tight integration between hardware, software and services. I can't distill this "value" and quantify it the way I would a benchmark test, but it's there, it can be felt by iPhone users, and it's evidently significant enough that there is still no lack of consumers willing to pay Apple's asking prices for their products.
It is no different today. It's clearer than ever today that Apple has a multi-year lead with Face ID and all that is associated with the technology (hardware and software), that will be very difficult for the competition to effectively replicate. Furthermore, Apple's software adds value to its hardware, unlike Samsung which has little control over their software and barely has an ecosystem to speak of. I would even go so far as to assert that being able to control your destiny by owning the core technologies powering your devices ends up being a competitive moat for Apple in the long run.
I am also seeing an increasing number of reviews criticising the S10's much-hyped fingerprint sensor as being not super easy to use, not as good as Apple’s old Touch ID, and DEFINITELY not as fast or easy as Face ID. Not to mention their face scanner is a joke. I wouldn’t be surprised if a significant number of S10 owners eventually abandon using any kind of biometrics at all and just go back to 4 digit or 6 digit number codes, which kinda defeats the whole point of spending so much on the S10 with so many *options* in the first place.
In addition, 5G is irrelevant at this point so pushing to release it early is not benefiting customers except in fringe cases. Value will be very limited for another couple of years at least.
Folding screens is equally irrelevant as a customer facing innovation at this point, especially at their current asking prices. And to add insult to injury, you get an OS that is atrocious for tablets. I continue to maintain that “Apple should do a folding screen just cos” is not a good decision making paradigm.
You all refuse to believe me when I assert time and time again that we are just bearing witness to the start of Apple's ascendency all the way to the top, and that's perfectly fine. Wait and watch and learn, as Apple continues to suck all the money out of the respective markets they deal in, while the rest of the competition decimate each other like cannibalistic piranhas in a game of mutually assured destruction.
Then again, what do these companies expect when neither the ideas nor the product is *theirs* and they're all pushing the same filling? These companies literally sold their souls to Google and embraced android as their saviour. And for what? A misguided belief that they could somehow repeat the Windows model all over again?
They should fail.
I just want to make it clear that a huge misinterpretation you’re making is satisfaction vs sales.
It’s not binary that a sale means complete satisfaction. We can reiterate the number of reasons why many people buy, but let’s hold off on that because that’s a pointless argument for people who continue to use ASP as a reason.
The second misstep is focusing on the rhetoric of ASP. Since Apple is no longer reporting units, it’s an indirect message that they are not selling as many units as they used to. We don’t really know how they are completing their accounting sheets, but understand that companies fudge their numbers in various legal ways to spin things positively for them. People who argue it’s illegal otherwise have never been in a position to observe such practices are fairly common in industry.
Lastly, understand that Apple’s ascension to the top is only in your view of balance sheets. It seems a number of people are much more skeptical than you are and are looking at the bigger picture.
You’re missing the point.
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It may be useful, but my point is unless my passenger wants to play with my phone at which point it’s unlocked, my phone is in my pocket and stays there. apps that are secure anyway require faceid, so no worries there.
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Think we’re saying the same thing.
I honestly don't see why it is considered so taboo to talk about profits. Like it is somehow some unpardonable sin that Apple is earning the margins on their products that they do. At the end of the day, nobody is twisting my arm and forcing me to buy Apple products. That I do despite their high price tags should count for something. What's wrong with trying to acknowledge and explain Apple's success (where it's warranted), rather than explain it away?
And if you don't think Apple products are worth their price tags, then don't buy them. And things will all naturally work themselves out.
In the same vein, since you claim that a sale does not necessarily equate satisfaction, why then is this forum so quick to celebrate the huge, yet largely profitless market share that Android OEMs currently preside over? The only explanation which makes sense to me is that this is pretty much the only metric one can use to show that Apple is anything but winning the smartphone wars.
And I do feel the reverse from you, in that I am of the opinion that it is the people so critical of Apple (and so eager to praise everything the competition does) who are missing the bigger picture, in their zeal to pull Apple down a peg or two from its lofty perch. I get that Apple isn't perfect and that it has made its fair share of missteps, but to completely dismiss everything Apple has done (and is doing) just because it dropped the ball on the Mac Pro?
Who's the one not looking at the bigger picture now?
I would happily switch to the S10e,
if it had iCloud services (calendar, address book, notes Sync, iCloud backup) if Google would work in China
keeping my iPhone 6S, still happy.
if it had iCloud services (calendar, address book, notes Sync, iCloud backup) if Google would work in China
keeping my iPhone 6S, still happy.
The two o/s’ are different and the debate rages in endlessly about which method of accomplishing a micro task is better. It’s slways interesting to see all defending their position.
Meanwhile Note 9 users can use Iris unlock and fingerprint unlock, whatever the situation requires or favors.
Glassed Silver:mac
It’s not taboo per se but when you are looking from ONLY the perspective of profits, you are now forgetting who your audience is. There is a fine balance with this, and I think most people are seeing the scale tipped in the wrong way.
I don’t think people are dismissing what Apple has contributed to society. I think the problem you have is you have limited experience with other products outside of Apple.
People generally celebrate opposing Apple news mainly because Apple comes across as very arrogant. Arguably that is subjective, but that is the vibe I get when talking to people and reading news.
Now let’s think about this. How do most people feel about arrogance?