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Apple has reached peak nickel-and-diming and I hope the consumers finally vote with their wallets. At least the top-spec'ed XS Max should have included the AirPods in the box.

Other than that: 5W charging bricks in 2019, no lightning/USBC to audio or USBC to lightning charging cables in the box, no cable extensions for Macs, a whole new litany of add-ons for the bendy iPad Pro (incompatible pencils and smart keyboards?!?), exorbitant accessory/peripheral pricing (why is the black Magic Mouse €20 more expensive again?!) and so forth. Plain sloppy and greedy. They deserve a good smack in the bottomline.

yeah, but iOS and Apple's ecosystem...it's the Holy Grail ofcourse :D
 
Thankfully, most of us don't want to live in an echo chamber like you. If you cannot comprehend why news about iPhone's competition is relevant and interesting to iPhone fans, there's just nothing to do but let you enjoy your own ignorance.
I personally can’t understand why there are so many Samsung and Google drones who are on this site daily. I can only think of a couple of times I’ve been on an Android fan site like https://phandroid.com/. Oddly, there were zero Apple fans there. Also zero Apple love articles like found on what used to be where people who liked Apple could go in peace to hang out.
 
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yeah, but iOS and Apple's ecosystem...it's the Holy Grail ofcourse :D

It is, and it's the main reason I'm still using their products. The seamlessness between i-devices, Macs and the watch is (next to) perfection and that's the thing they should be advertising instead of me-moji crap.

This doesn't make me any less agitated with the state of iOS and MacOS neglect, living the dongle life, working on frequently malfunctioning kernel panicking throw-away soldered computers, and having to re-purchase every peripheral if I were to upgrade to a new iPad Pro.
 
Going back to my iPhone 7+ feels like visiting a museum. Just picking up your device and, you know, looking at it, is the most natural and unobtrusive biometric ever created. I’d never go back.
you do know for 99.9% of people who don't know, need to know or care about the technology and it's benefits it's just the new "swipe to unlock" nothing more, nothing less.
 
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I personally can’t understand why there are so many Samsung and Google drones who are on this site daily. I can only think of a couple of times I’ve been on an Android fan site like https://phandroid.com/. Oddly, there were zero Apple fans there. Also zero Apple love articles like found on what used to be where people who liked Apple could go in peace to hang out.
And how many Apple related articles have you seen in phandroid's front page?
Well over 90% of the content is exclusively Android related.
 
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The whole issue with Apples implementation is that you still have to swipe to get into the phone. This makes the In Screen FPS the better option as it is more versatile.

I was really shocked as I found out that you have to swipe, no go for me!
This swiping makes me sick, haha
 
As it was expected, better design, better camera with the ultra wide lens ,ultrasonic fingerprint on display, will wait for the 2020 iphone and if they have nothing to offer who knows maybe samsung will.
 
I like Face ID too but, now that you got the phone unlocked, how do you actually use it if you got gloves on or you’re cooking? Siri voice recognition isn’t all that great and is impractical when navigating webpages etc.

Always one smartarse
 
Well, Apple definitely need a wake-up punch in the face. And I hope it results in dismissing their entire marketing department who have failed to understand what the masses want. Now they have a lot of damage to repair. I'm still an optimist though. People have to hear this loud and clear: it's not a Samsung' success - it's an Apple failure!
And, please, let Timmy go, make Federighi a CEO.
200 million iPhones sold a year is Apple "failing to understand" what the masses want?
 
I wish Apple had not abandoned the fingerprint sensor. I am not against facial recognition, but I still want a fingerprint unlock.

EDIT: Oh yea, and Samsung still offers a traditional audio jack. Apple screwed up eliminating these two things.

+1000. This is it in a nutshell for me. Bring back fingerprint sensor.
 
I am not sure what exactly Kuo is smoking.

Samsung has been crushed by smartphone competition across the board. Whatever reason you attribute to the decline in iPhone sales, Samsung is going to get it way worse. The iPhone at least runs its own propriety OS and has the stickiness of the Apple ecosystem to lock users in. Samsung runs Android, the same OS powering just about every other smartphone in existence.

I was particularly tickled during the keynote when Samsung said that their vision was to be an “experience innovator.” The irony here is that Samsung’s weak point is precisely in offering cohesive experiences. Samsung has to increasingly rely more and more on its hardware expertise in order to get around what is pretty much a nonexistent software and services portfolio, but it will only get them so far.

There really wasn’t any one thing about these new phones that stood out to me. The existing Apple versus Samsung smartphone sales dynamic is ultimately not going to change because of these new Galaxy S10 devices.
 
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Speaking of ignorance - - imagine if there was some kind of worldwide web of news and information where MacRumors readers could find out about competitors' products.

The story is not only about Samsungs phone sales increase, but the correlated decrease in IPHONE sales. Therefore the notion that it's just a story about a competing product is false on it's face.
 
I only have a 6s, but there’s a clock on the lock screen; I never have to use TouchID to see the time. In fact I make sure not to unlock it because it makes the time harder to read then, since it’s displayed in such a small font. On the lock screen, it’s much larger and easier to read.

So there’s no clock on the lock screen for the FaceID models?

Yes you are right, but i have a sleep app which i like to check which requires the face hoovering. i could of course just stop to check it, or pick it up, but it was always easy with the finger print on my 6 plus, it opened instantly. So its definitely not a must, but its more an observation that it annoys me. never annoyed me with the fingerprint, and i would love for apple to bring both possibilities like samsung and others.
 
Completely relvent though. We can’t just have Apple fan boys praising Tim Cook without any critical thinking.

Hopefully people will see what competition looks like and ask, why isn’t Apple competitive especially if Apple is charging more!
Apple's competitive in the areas its users appreciate and are willing to pay for. There's the tight integration of software, services, and hardware that produces an unparalleled user experience that translates seamlessly across multiple devices (iPhone, iPad, Mac, Apple Watch, HomePod, AirPods, etc.). There's the releasing of software updates that support hardware 4-5 yrs old, that everyone receives on release day vs. Samsung supporting hardware for 18-24 months with how many middlemen between Samsung and the end user. Or maybe it's the myriad of Apple stores around the world that offer first in class customer support no matter where you purchased your device.

Also, try finding me a company duplicating Apple Watch and AirPods success in wearables or the iPad’s success in tablets. There aren’t any.

These alone make every cent I ever spent on my Apple products well worth it.
 
The way I figure it is this. With Apple, they and my carrier have access to my data. With Samsung, Google, Facebook, which cannot be deleted, Samsung and my carrrier have access to my data. That’s one of the main reasons I chose Apple. Am I naive to think this way?

Yes you are naive. You can disable FaceBook which is functionally equivalent to deleting, and Google has your information if you use Google apps regardless of OS.

Apple give you no options over how your data is handled by iOS, charge excessive fees for internal storage, or tell you to pay for their unencrypted iCloud storage. With Samsung you can buy your own internal storage, organise your own data, and choose to encrypt whatever data you wish.
 
The most stunning fact about the S10 for me as a XR user is how much lighter, thinner and smaller relative to the screen size the S10 is. With even a bigger battery the thing is nearly 50g lighter and 0,5mm thinner, even if you compare the regular S10 and not the S10e....
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As much as I support your argument, you're bringing a weights savings of 17-18 grams into an argument as if it means something in the long run. That's just over three nickels.

The S10e weights 150g and the S10 157g. My XR weights 194g. That is much more than three nickels, it's nearly a quarter of the weight....
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+1000. This is it in a nutshell for me. Bring back fingerprint sensor.

I could understand that they wanted to eliminate the home button but with the ultrasonic fingerprint sensor they could at least bring TouchID back....
 
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I could understand that they wanted to eliminate the home button but with the ultrasonic fingerprint sensor they could bring at least TouchID back....
I doubt Touch ID will ever come back.

I think people misinterpret FaceID. The idea isn't to spend time analyzing how it works or whether it's slower than TouchID or the ultrasonic sensor or not. The idea is that it blurs the perception of needing authentication at all to unlock your phone.

What I think Apple was going for was using FaceID to take care of all the security stuff behind the scenes so you don't have too. It removes having to think about authenticating to access something because faceID has already detected that it is you.
What you're left with is a phone that is as easy to access as one without a passcode. No longer do you have to go through security checks because it is all done automatically.
 
I am not sure what exactly Kuo is smoking.

Samsung has been crushed by smartphone competition across the board. Whatever reason you attribute to the decline in iPhone sales, Samsung is going to get it way worse. The iPhone at least runs its own propriety OS and has the stickiness of the Apple ecosystem to lock users in. Samsung runs Android, the same OS powering just about every other smartphone in existence.

I was particularly tickled during the keynote when Samsung said that their vision was to be an “experience innovator.” The irony here is that Samsung’s weak point is precisely in offering cohesive experiences. Samsung has to increasingly rely more and more on its hardware expertise in order to get around what is pretty much a nonexistent software and services portfolio, but it will only get them so far.

There really wasn’t any one thing about these new phones that stood out to me. The existing Apple versus Samsung smartphone sales dynamic is ultimately not going to change because of these new Galaxy S10 devices.
I just have to disagree; let's talk numbers: from Q4 '09 to Q4 '18 Samsung went from 3.3% market share to 18.7% market share. Apple went from 16.1% to 18.4%. Samsung finished higher and showed way more growth.

https://www.statista.com/statistics...by-smartphone-vendors-since-4th-quarter-2009/

Now the whole "the same OS powering just about every other smartphone in existence". Is a comman OSS (Open Source Software) solution bad? The open source OS Linux runs on 97.2% of the World's super computers.

https://itsfoss.com/linux-runs-97-percent-worlds-top-500-supercomputers/

Yet you as an individual or any other manufacturer can take, use and modify it to your/their own needs for free; why again is a propriety OS a good thing? It cerainly isn't even remotly winning in market share.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...et-share-in-2018-idc/articleshow/65609811.cms

And if your reply is "Apple is the most/first..... etc etc etc" don't bother. Plenty of companies that've failed did very well indeed at some point in time.
 
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There really wasn’t any one thing about these new phones that stood out to me.

Then respectfully, you need to broaden your horizon. Because the S10 not also offering a new biometric option with the finger print reader under the display, but they returned the 3.5 mm Jack, and introduced the triple lens camera which is the same technology expected to debut on the 2019 iPhone. So, are you indicating that when Apple introduces their triple lens camera, that will ‘stand out to you’? Because as of now, that’s really the only expected major technology for the 2019 iPhone.

(On a sidenote: As an Apple fan myself, which others know that I am, you can’t dismiss everything Samsung does, they need to be acknowledged, it can’t be just a ‘one-sided everything Apple argument’, not when one of Apple’s largest competitor is Samsung in the smart phone sector. )
 
I'm not sure why you're chastising that user when you're effectively agreeing with him in his chastising of the user who complained of this site being about Samsung rather than Apple products.
Because I don’t agree with him, in fact I strongly disagree with him. Please go to a BMW forum and tell the people there what some market analyst says why his new estimates for Toyota sales are higher then what he previously thought. If you find someone who thinks that this kind of information is even remotely relevant to their understanding of the Bavarian company, help that person go see a doctor. Samsung, Google and Microsoft news don’t add much value to this forum. The people who insist that they are Apple’s competition live in an echo chamber themselves. BMW drivers won’t switch to Toyota because of more cup holders.
 
I have no doubt the new Apple chip in this years phone will be second to none. It's just every other aspect of the phone I worry about, and the price tag. I don't see Apple pulling a rabbit out the hat this year.
 
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