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The S10e weights 150g and the S10 157g. My XR weights 194g. That is much more than three nickels, it's nearly a quarter of the weight....
The S10 is not a competitor to the XR, it is to the XS. Flagship against flagship. Not a price-conscious phone from Cupertino. I posted this a week or two ago when someone said heft was what made Apple products the best. I still can't work out that logic.

That said, I have no idea what the XR is so darn heavy. Nor can I understand why Samsung's budget J series is so damn heavy for having piss all inside it.


Code:
iPhone 7 (2016): 138 grams
iPhone 7 Plus (2016): 188 grams
iPhone 8 (2017): 148 grams
iPhone 8 Plus (2017): 202 grams
iPhone X: 174 grams
iPhone XR: 194 grams
iPhone XS: 174 grams
iPhone XS Max: 208 grams


Samsung Galaxy S7 (2016): 152 grams
Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (2016): 157 grams
Samsung Galaxy S8 (2017): 155 grams
Samsung Galaxy S8+ (2017): 173 grams
Samsung Galaxy S9 (2018): 163 grams
Samsung Galaxy S9+ (2018): 189 grams
Samsung Galaxy S10e (2019): 150 grams
Samsung Galaxy S10 (2019): 157 grams
Samsung Galaxy S10+ Glass (2019): 175 grams
Samsung Galaxy S10+ Ceramic (2019): 198 grams


Huawei P20 (2018): 165 grams
Huawei P20 Pro (2018): 174 grams
Huawei Mate 20 Pro (2018): 189 grams

Xiaomi Pocophone F1 (2018): 182 grams


Nokia 7 Plus (2018): 186 grams
Nokia 8 Sirocco (2018): 160 grams

LG V40 ThinQ (2018): 169 grams
LG G7 ThinQ (2018): 162 grams


One Plus 5T (2017): 162 grams
One Plus 6 (2018): 177 grams
One Plus 6T (2018): 185 grams

Google Pixel 2 (2017): 143 grams
Google Pixel 2 XL (2017): 175 grams
Google Pixel 3 (2018): 143 grams
Google Pixel 3 XL (2018): 184 grams


And for fun, some mid-ranges and very low end phones:

Samsung Galaxy A6 (2018): 162 grams
Samsung J3 (2018): 152 grams
Samsung J4 (2018): 175 grams
Motorola Moto G6 (2018): 162 grams
 
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Because I don’t agree with him, in fact I strongly disagree with him. Please go to a BMW forum and tell the people there what some market analyst says why his new estimates for Toyota sales are higher then what he previously thought. If you find someone who thinks that this kind of information is even remotely relevant to their understanding of the Bavarian company, help that person go see a doctor. Samsung, Google and Microsoft news don’t add much value to this forum. The people who insist that they are Apple’s competition live in an echo chamber themselves. BMW drivers won’t switch to Toyota because of more cup holders.

That is your own opinion. Macrumors has reported on competitor products since its inception. If you don't like his or similar replies, then either put those people on ignore, find another site to post on, or don't wander into a thread regarding a competitor product.
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But then you can compare the S10e to the XR and the difference is even bigger....
Except you can't. The S10 lineup are flagship phones. There's different variants.


S10e, S10 and S10+ are akin to XS and XS Max. XR isn't comparable. And even if you were to, its weight is a total anomaly compared to Apple's other phones now or historically in non-giant form.

Compare the XR to Samsung's A series.

S = Top of the line
A = Mid-grade, slightly top of the line
J = Bottom tier budget
 
I just have to disagree; let's talk numbers: from Q4 '09 to Q4 '18 Samsung went from 3.3% market share to 18.7% market share. Apple went from 16.1% to 18.4%. Samsung finished highter and showed way more growth.

You are forgetting that Samsung sells a ton of phones. Most of their growth is likely from the sales of cheaper smartphones which barely earn Samsung any profit. Even the cheapest iPhone is still fairly costly relative to the competition.

Now the whole "the same OS powering just about every other smartphone in existence". Is a comman OSS solution bad? The open source OS Linux runs on 97.2% of the World's super computers.

Depends on what we are discussing about.

I am saying that it may not be a good thing from Samsung's perspective because it makes switching from one phone to another easier. You could argue that it's good for the consumer, and it probably is, but the discussion is from the standpoint of Samsung's profitability.

Not to mention that the reality is that Apple is having an easier time keeping its proprietary OS updated on a timely fashion, while Android OEMs are finding it hard to keep their devices updated, between there being too many middlemen interfering, to there just being not much financial incentive to do so.

I guess if I had to put my finger on it, a common OS solution is "bad" here in that it isn't giving me more of what I want, but instead saddling me with more issues to contend with.

Yet you as an individual or any other manufacturer can take, use and modify it to your/their own needs for free; why again is a propriety OS a good thing? It cerainly isn't even remotly winning in market share.
I don't need iOS to win in market share. I just need it to be big enough to hold its own. Its minority market share belies the fact that 14% market share (or whatever that number is these days) is still a very large number of users in an absolute sense (Apple recently reported 900 million active iPhone users). More than enough to sustain its own thriving ecosystem.

Let's look at the benefits I enjoy from iOS again.

The App Store is controlled by Apple, which means that developers have to play by Apple's rules. I find that app quality tends to be better, and many apps tend to be released for iOS first or exclusively. Apple generally does a good job of maintaining their App Store. A much better job than Google, at any rate.

This also means that issues like software piracy and malware is less of a problem, which in turn leads to more people paying for their software, which in turn incentivises developers to want to develop for Apple. For all the complaints of Apple being so strict, people still return to the App Store, for the simple reason that it is where the money is.

For example, Fortnite was available on iOS for many months before it finally came to Android (and even then, Epic pulled a stunt by forcing android users to side load the app and therefore bypassing the security of the App Store. How am I supposedly better off on an "open" platform like Android again in this context? Epic complained about the 30% cut by the Apple Store, and still capitulated and released their app for iOS first.

Another example - I love using apps like overcast and Tweetbot on my iOS devices. Apps which aren't available on Android. So what's the use of having larger market share if it isn't succeeding in getting developers to favour Android over iOS?

At the end of the day, the simple reason is that I just don't need or care for the customisation Android offers me. The ability to modify my Android phone to my wishes - it's just not something I can be bothered with these days.

On the flip side, proprietary is good (for me) as it basically allows Apple to govern their platform in a manner they deem fit, which so happens to be line with my own interests and priorities.

And if your reply is "Apple is the most/first..... etc etc etc" don't bother. Plenty of companies that've failed once did very well indeed.

I agree - nothing lasts forever. Not even Apple.

Let me just get this out there. I don't think that Apple, its products, or its people are infallible. I don't think that Apple's current success necessarily guarantees that it will continue tomorrow and certainly that it won’t forever. Nobody gets to reign forever (thank god!). But we shouldn’t be so proud (or jaded) as to not recognise and applaud when it’s happening.

And that's what gets me so enthusiastic about Apple right now - being able to bear witness to a sustained reign of excellence by Apple. Despite their various missteps, or perhaps, because of them (who is to say that the success of products like the Apple Watch and AirPods were not due to Apple prioritising them over the Mac?).
 
The S10 is not a competitor to the XR, it is to the XS. Flagship against flagship. Not a price-conscious phone from Cupertino. I posted this a week or two ago when someone said heft was what made Apple products the best. I still can't work out that logic.

That said, I have no idea what the XR is so darn heavy. Nor can I understand why Samsung's budget J series is so damn heavy for having piss all inside it.


Code:
iPhone 7 (2016): 138 grams
iPhone 7 Plus (2016): 188 grams
iPhone 8 (2017): 148 grams
iPhone 8 Plus (2017): 202 grams
iPhone X: 174 grams
iPhone XR: 194 grams
iPhone XS: 174 grams
iPhone XS Max: 208 grams


Samsung Galaxy S7 (2016): 152 grams
Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (2016): 157 grams
Samsung Galaxy S8 (2017): 155 grams
Samsung Galaxy S8+ (2017): 173 grams
Samsung Galaxy S9 (2018): 163 grams
Samsung Galaxy S9+ (2018): 189 grams
Samsung Galaxy S10e (2019): 150 grams
Samsung Galaxy S10 (2019): 157 grams
Samsung Galaxy S10+ Glass (2019): 175 grams
Samsung Galaxy S10+ Ceramic (2019): 198 grams


Huawei P20 (2018): 165 grams
Huawei P20 Pro (2018): 174 grams
Huawei Mate 20 Pro (2018): 189 grams

Xiaomi Pocophone F1 (2018): 182 grams


Nokia 7 Plus (2018): 186 grams
Nokia 8 Sirocco (2018): 160 grams

LG V40 ThinQ (2018): 169 grams
LG G7 ThinQ (2018): 162 grams


One Plus 5T (2017): 162 grams
One Plus 6 (2018): 177 grams
One Plus 6T (2018): 185 grams

Google Pixel 2 (2017): 143 grams
Google Pixel 2 XL (2017): 175 grams
Google Pixel 3 (2018): 143 grams
Google Pixel 3 XL (2018): 184 grams


And for fun, some mid-ranges and very low end phones:

Samsung Galaxy A6 (2018): 162 grams
Samsung J3 (2018): 152 grams
Samsung J4 (2018): 175 grams
Motorola Moto G6 (2018): 162 grams

That is a nice overview. Thanks for that!
 
That is a nice overview. Thanks for that!
No problem. I can understand why the XS Max is heavy. I bought one. It's got heft. I had to triple check the figures for the XR. I haven't got a single clue why it's so heavy for what it is. Heavier than the X. Though I suspect phones will reverse and get somewhat fatter again. I believe the One Plus 7 or 7T will hit the 200 gram barrier.

One thing to consider is that most phones don't have cooling systems and can't run their SoC at full blast without throttling back. We might see thicker phones with some type of closed loop cooling system.
 
That is your own opinion. Macrumors has reported on competitor products since its inception. If you don't like his or similar replies, then either put those people on ignore, find another site to post on, or don't wander into a thread regarding a competitor product.
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Except you can't. The S10 lineup are flagship phones. There's different variants.


S10e, S10 and S10+ are akin to XS and XS Max. XR isn't comparable. And even if you were to, its weight is a total anomaly compared to Apple's other phones now or historically in non-giant form.

Compare the XR to Samsung's A series.

S = Top of the line
A = Mid-grade, slightly top of the line
J = Bottom tier budget

That’s a harsh verdict and I think subjective. The omission of features with the S10e compared to the S10 is comparable to the omission of features of the XR compared to the XS. The XR feels premium enough for me with the exeption of the size and weight in relation to screen size...

I even doubt that these categories like premium and mid range are really helpful in describing these products...
 
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You are forgetting that Samsung sells a ton of phones. Most of their growth is likely from the sales of cheaper smartphones which barely earn Samsung any profit. Even the cheapest iPhone is still fairly costly relative to the competition.

Depends on what we are discussing about.

I am saying that it may not be a good thing from Samsung's perspective because it makes switching from one phone to another easier. You could argue that it's good for the consumer, and it probably is, but the discussion is from the standpoint of Samsung's profitability.

Not to mention that the reality is that Apple is having an easier time keeping its proprietary OS updated on a timely fashion, while Android OEMs are finding it hard to keep their devices updated, between there being too many middlemen interfering, to there just being not much financial incentive to do so.

I guess if I had to put my finger on it, a common OS solution is "bad" here in that it isn't giving me more of what I want, but instead saddling me with more issues to contend with.


I don't need iOS to win in market share. I just need it to be big enough to hold its own. Its minority market share belies the fact that 14% market share (or whatever that number is these days) is still a very large number of users in an absolute sense (Apple recently reported 900 million active iPhone users). More than enough to sustain its own thriving ecosystem.

Let's look at the benefits I enjoy from iOS again.

The App Store is controlled by Apple, which means that developers have to play by Apple's rules. I find that app quality tends to be better, and many apps tend to be released for iOS first or exclusively. Apple generally does a good job of maintaining their App Store. A much better job than Google, at any rate.

This also means that issues like software piracy and malware is less of a problem, which in turn leads to more people paying for their software, which in turn incentivises developers to want to develop for Apple. For all the complaints of Apple being so strict, people still return to the App Store, for the simple reason that it is where the money is.

For example, Fortnite was available on iOS for many months before it finally came to Android (and even then, Epic pulled a stunt by forcing android users to side load the app and therefore bypassing the security of the App Store. How am I supposedly better off on an "open" platform like Android again in this context? Epic complained about the 30% cut by the Apple Store, and still capitulated and released their app for iOS first.

Another example - I love using apps like overcast and Tweetbot on my iOS devices. Apps which aren't available on Android. So what's the use of having larger market share if it isn't succeeding in getting developers to favour Android over iOS?

At the end of the day, the simple reason is that I just don't need or care for the customisation Android offers me. The ability to modify my Android phone to my wishes - it's just not something I can be bothered with these days.

On the flip side, proprietary is good (for me) as it basically allows Apple to govern their platform in a manner they deem fit, which so happens to be line with my own interests and priorities.



I agree - nothing lasts forever. Not even Apple.

Let me just get this out there. I don't think that Apple, its products, or its people are infallible. I don't think that Apple's current success necessarily guarantees that it will continue tomorrow and certainly that it won’t forever. Nobody gets to reign forever (thank god!). But we shouldn’t be so proud (or jaded) as to not recognise and applaud when it’s happening.

And that's what gets me so enthusiastic about Apple right now - being able to bear witness to a sustained reign of excellence by Apple. Despite their various missteps, or perhaps, because of them (who is to say that the success of products like the Apple Watch and AirPods were not due to Apple prioritising them over the Mac?).
Look, my post wasn't an attack just a statement of facts that some people may take to heart and some-others may dismiss.

Bottom line; if you're happy with what you've paid for and are using then fair play and good luck to you. Heck even if you don't care about anything else because you're happy that's totally fine.

I just hate this "mine is better than yours" mentality when most of the time it's not true.
 
Unsurprising, Apple is really stretching on the pricing, particularly when storage tiers are taken into account (XS 64GB = £999; S10 128GB = £799). For most people who aren't ideologically tied to the iPhone (and that's most people, iphone devotees are of course massively over-represented on this site) the next obvious choice will be these phones. Makes sense Samsung is picking up those who won't just pinch their nose and hand over their money because an iPhone is what they want.

Additionally, I think the XR was somewhat overly stripped down for the price. They could have kept the scaled 1080p display like the 8 plus has, they could have kept the dual camera like the 8 plus has, they could have priced it at the same level the 8 plus was on launch. The XR is a great phone once you get your hands on it and use it, but by making these decisions, the discussion around it has unfortunately become only 720p and only a single camera which makes it sound deliberately gimped while at the same time it isn't a budget phone by any stretch.
 
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Makes sense, people will pay a premium for obvious features like triple camera and under display fingerprint readers.

Huawei used that strategy last year and it worked. Samsung followed with the S10. Apple will do this same this year with the camera.

Face ID is fun, but in the end, it's just another form of biometrics.

Isn't under the display fingerprint just another form of biometrics? I like the S10 and think it's a good phone for a lot of people, but I am not sure that the features you mention are what is driving pre-orders. It's not really any sort of leap from what everyone else is doing.
 
I am not sure what exactly Kuo is smoking.

Samsung has been crushed by smartphone competition across the board. Whatever reason you attribute to the decline in iPhone sales, Samsung is going to get it way worse. The iPhone at least runs its own propriety OS and has the stickiness of the Apple ecosystem to lock users in. Samsung runs Android, the same OS powering just about every other smartphone in existence.

I was particularly tickled during the keynote when Samsung said that their vision was to be an “experience innovator.” The irony here is that Samsung’s weak point is precisely in offering cohesive experiences. Samsung has to increasingly rely more and more on its hardware expertise in order to get around what is pretty much a nonexistent software and services portfolio, but it will only get them so far.

There really wasn’t any one thing about these new phones that stood out to me. The existing Apple versus Samsung smartphone sales dynamic is ultimately not going to change because of these new Galaxy S10 devices.
I don’t get this research note (other than he knows rumor sites like this will share it). Are there that many people moving back and forth between Samsung and Apple? It seems to me Samsung’s biggest competion would be Chinese Android vendors not Apple.
 
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No way I am giving up my iPhone any time soon, but Samsung pre-order shipments on the increase and iPhone sales on the decrease … does not sound good.

I used to find Samsung as a copycat, kind of tacky throw everything at it and see what sticks kind of brand, but they seem to have made really decent strides in software and now seem to set the benchmark for hardware. Will be great to see if Apple will respond with something awesome and really desirable.
 
Isn't under the display fingerprint just another form of biometrics?.

Right, it is, but it doesn’t require you holding the phone up to your face or have missteps if like when the phone won’t unlock successfully when laying down with Face ID, nor does it protrude into the display either. I would say those are two of of the largest complaints about Face ID, when the fingerprint sensor under the display eliminates both of those considerations. As interesting as Face ID is, I personally would rather have had a finger print reader under the display, but nor am I complaining, just my observations/preference.
 
Isn't under the display fingerprint just another form of biometrics? I like the S10 and think it's a good phone for a lot of people, but I am not sure that the features you mention are what is driving pre-orders. It's not really any sort of leap from what everyone else is doing.
I’m highly skeptical that under the display fingerprint sensor is going to be a huge driver of sales. I don’t think the average smartphone consumer think unlocking their phone is a major pain point. Same with the camera. At this point most smartphone owners have a phone with a camera that is good enough for what they use it for. Of course companies have to keep pushing incremental improvements but I highly doubt they’re going to drive big sales increases. TBH I think the most innovative feature to come to a smartphone recently was from Google with Night Sight. And isn’t that mostly software?
 
I’m highly skeptical that under the display fingerprint sensor is going to be a huge driver of sales. I don’t think the average smartphone consumer think unlocking their phone is a major pain point. Same with the camera. At this point most smartphone owners have a phone with a camera that is good enough for what they use it for. Of course companies have to keep pushing incremental improvements but I highly doubt they’re going to drive big sales increases. TBH I think the most innovative feature to come to a smartphone recently was from Google with Night Sight. And isn’t that mostly software?

Yea I think it's a nice to have, but I think Face ID has advantages in it's current form. By the time you identify where to put your finger, Face ID is unlocked. I do wish Face ID just unlocked to the home screen though, maybe with iOS 13. I agree though, the differences between all of these phones and features is so small that it really makes no difference. Yup, night sight is just a software feature. It's definitely cool, but it's just a feature to me. I honestly don't even look at my phones feature by feature or spec by spec anymore.
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Right, it is, but it doesn’t require you holding the phone up to your face or have missteps if like when the phone won’t unlock successfully when laying down with Face ID, nor does it protrude into the display either. I would say those are two of of the largest complaints about Face ID, when the fingerprint sensor under the display eliminates both of those considerations. As interesting as Face ID is, I personally would rather have had a finger print reader under the display, but nor am I complaining, just my observations/preference.

That's true. I am probably different than most, but I can glance at my XS to unlock and I'll typically pick it up if I want to unlock it/use it. The issue I see is that by the time you identify where to place your finger on the S10, Face ID would be unlocked. Face ID will only get better and I think no user input at all is a better solution. Different strokes for different folks though.
 
Then respectfully, you need to broaden your horizon. Because the S10 not also offering a new biometric option with the finger print reader under the display, but they returned the 3.5 mm Jack, and introduced the triple lens camera which is the same technology expected to debut on the 2019 iPhone. So, are you indicating that when Apple introduces their triple lens camera, that will ‘stand out to you’? Because as of now, that’s really the only expected major technology for the 2019 iPhone.

(On a sidenote: As an Apple fan myself, which others know that I am, you can’t dismiss everything Samsung does, they need to be acknowledged, it can’t be just a ‘one-sided everything Apple argument’, not when one of Apple’s largest competitor is Samsung in the smart phone sector. )

Truth be told, I am not really using the dual camera on my iPhone 8+ much. I have not taken a single bokeh photo to date. I am mainly staying for the ecosystem. I suspect that any better cameras the next iPhone brings with it will likely assist more with AR than better photo quality.

To me, the main difference between Apple and Samsung can be summed up as such.

Imagine both are restaurants. Samsung has great ingredients they grow themselves, but they can't cook for nuts, and this often fails to do justice to the ingredients they use in their dishes. They may grow excellent wagyu beef, but the sauce doesn't go well with it, or it arrives not cooked properly.The quality of their ingredients is impeccable, but there's just something about the preparation process which mars the final dining experience. I might eat at this restaurant if I want to boast that I have had wagyu beef at a somewhat affordable price, but I can't say from the bottom of my heart that the meal was all that fantastic.

Conversely, Apple uses mainly off the shelf parts, but their expertise lies in being able to use the right ingredients to create great dining experiences that consumers are willing to pay for. Maybe they give you beef stew, at a terrific markup over the cost of ingredients, but the chef knows his stuff, and his special sauce creates a unique experience which can't be replicated elsewhere, no matter how hard the competitors try. And so consumers pay, despite complaining over the high prices, because they can't get the same taste anywhere else. And so they pay.

It's not necessary the best analogy, but it's also been a long day for me, and it's the best I can come up with at the moment before going to take a shower.

So the issue here is not that Samsung isn't "innovative" despite coming up with inventions like ultrasonic fingerprint sensors (I concur that it is likely a technological marvel in its own right), but that they just can't seem to put them all together to create a cohesive experience, mainly due to (I feel) their lack of control over software and services.

Because at the end of the day, that's what I am paying for. An integrated and cohesive user experience, not great specs on paper.

And whichever device offers me the better user experience gets my money, whatever its specs.
 
Samsung have done great with the S10, I've been using mine for the past 6 hours and it has exceeded expectaions.

I don't think it is perfect, but for the past 10 years I have, may be a few times admire at their tech. But S10 was the first one that actually had me thinking " This is a very decent phone." Coming from a Manufacturer, that may have tried to copy Apple at times, but this time there are many originals innovation in there. The software is getting better as well, although I still prefer iOS, but at least now it doesn't give me the awful distastes in simply just looking at it.

Competition is Good. Apple will need to step things up.
 
Truth be told, I am not really using the dual camera on my iPhone 8+ much. I have not taken a single bokeh photo to date. I am mainly staying for the ecosystem. I suspect that any better cameras the next iPhone brings with it will likely assist more with AR than better photo quality.

To me, the main difference between Apple and Samsung can be summed up as such.

Imagine both are restaurants. Samsung has great ingredients they grow themselves, but they can't cook for nuts, and this often fails to do justice to the ingredients they use in their dishes. They may grow excellent wagyu beef, but the sauce doesn't go well with it, or it arrives not cooked properly.The quality of their ingredients is impeccable, but there's just something about the preparation process which mars the final dining experience. I might eat at this restaurant if I want to boast that I have had wagyu beef at a somewhat affordable price, but I can't say from the bottom of my heart that the meal was all that fantastic.

Conversely, Apple uses mainly off the shelf parts, but their expertise lies in being able to use the right ingredients to create great dining experiences that consumers are willing to pay for. Maybe they give you beef stew, at a terrific markup over the cost of ingredients, but the chef knows his stuff, and his special sauce creates a unique experience which can't be replicated elsewhere, no matter how hard the competitors try. And so consumers pay, despite complaining over the high prices, because they can't get the same taste anywhere else. And so they pay.

It's not necessary the best analogy, but it's also been a long day for me, and it's the best I can come up with at the moment before going to take a shower.

So the issue here is not that Samsung isn't "innovative" despite coming up with inventions like ultrasonic fingerprint sensors (I concur that it is likely a technological marvel in its own right), but that they just can't seem to put them all together to create a cohesive experience, mainly due to (I feel) their lack of control over software and services.

Because at the end of the day, that's what I am paying for. An integrated and cohesive user experience, not great specs on paper.

And whichever device offers me the better user experience gets my money, whatever its specs.

Better experience with iphone? Don't think so. That's your personal opinion. S10/Android can do so much more that it opens up many new uses that you don't even know are possible. This is what I call better and enhanced experience.
 
No way I am giving up my iPhone any time soon, but Samsung pre-order shipments on the increase and iPhone sales on the decrease … does not sound good.

It could be that Samsung didn’t ship enough in the first place way less than Apple or they are actually shipping more than Apple, so without knowing the quantity v Apple quality it doesn’t mean anything other than Samsung has not shipped enough and Apple has shipped too many.
 
I doubt Touch ID will ever come back.

I think people misinterpret FaceID. The idea isn't to spend time analyzing how it works or whether it's slower than TouchID or the ultrasonic sensor or not. The idea is that it blurs the perception of needing authentication at all to unlock your phone.

The thing about touch ID is that it relies on me to decide exactly when I choose to unlock my phone. Sometimes when I grab my phone I specifically do NOT want it to unlock, I just want to check the time or whatever else I have on my lock screen.

As far as security goes, Face ID is less secure just for the fact that all someone has to do is wave my phone in front of my face and they have full access. With fingerprint ID they have to be much more intrusive and grab my finger and force me to touch the phone.

I have never used touch ID and felt - 'wow this is a pain, wish there were a better way to unlock my phone'. To me, touchID is the perfect balance of security, convenience, and user control.
 
Better experience with iphone? Don't think so. That's your personal opinion. S10/Android can do so much more that it opens up many new uses that you don't even know are possible. This is what I call better and enhanced experience.

Isn't this all personal opinion? People prefer different platforms, that's all it comes down to. For you the Android experience may be better, for others it may not be. This idea that people are somehow wrong for preferring iOS doesn't make sense to me.
 
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