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Why not make the phone thicker to compensate for the larger camera system? It seems like the iPhone camera will intentionally never be flush again.
Because It’s already too thick and bulky (13 Pro Max) and feels almost like a brick specially in a case.
Thicker than that would literally feel like an old Nokia phone.
 
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And what other advantages does the 48 mp camera have besides 8K video?
Pixel binning. Images will still come out 12mp but the ISP has 4 times the data to work with now for things like focus, exposure, sharpening, HDR. Would be nice to get RAW 48mp but doubt we will.
 
35MP in that sensor size isn’t going to do much for me, I will get much better quality photos of my full frame 28MP camera with proper glass for a very long time to come.
I upgraded last year from 11PM to 13PM, so need convincing features to spend 1.5k again this year.
Why would you plan to upgrade this year if you just did last year? Money burning a hole in your pocket? Retirement fund full? ?
 
Why would you plan to upgrade this year if you just did last year? Money burning a hole in your pocket? Retirement fund full? ?
IF I were getting an optical 1-6x zoom, not fixed, real zoom, optical - that would make me do it. But that’s not gonna happen, so I’ll be safe :D:D
 
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You literally "can't" on any of the phones they make now, so ..... lol
Not true for me. I can do everything the 13 mini offers with one hand, which is why it probably will be the last generation I invest in. Will just keep replacing the battery and anything else it needs including buying another one until it gets as old as the 1st gen. SE.
 
Why not make the phone thicker to compensate for the larger camera system? It seems like the iPhone camera will intentionally never be flush again.
Because many people (me included) don’t want a bigger and heavier phone.
Not intentionally but technically necessary the iPhone camera will of course “never” be flush again.
 
I think this would be the time for USB C... pulling those videos and large pictures will be painful over lightning.
Yeah, it's just getting comical now. I simply can't see the point in getting an iPhone with Pro Res 4K/8K film ability if it takes longer to download the film off my iPhone, then it does to process it on my new MBP, with it's fancy fast built-in AS SoC Pro Res processor. Come on Apple, you kicked USB-A off the MBPs due to it being "old tech", even though USB-A peripherals are still as common as mud, and will continue to be for a long long time (due to the simplicity and lower cost of implementing USB-A vs USB-C, particularly for the myriad of for use cases where USB-A is plenty fast enough); but hang onto the proprietary, slow as a snail, Lightning cable, just so you can continue charging your Apple Tax fee to 3rd party cable manufactures. This is where greed gets in the way of killer products, and starts to impact good will and sales. And no, a completely portless iPhone most definitely is NOT the solution, obviously, again, for speed of download reasons.
 
I was decided to not upgrade to the 13 Pro (from my XS) because of what I felt was an extreme camera bump. I figured they'd make headway on that with the next iteration. Damn. It seems the iPhones just keep getting bigger and/or heavier. Since getting the XS, I decided to always buy an iPhone with distance-zoom, so the non-pro's have not been for me. Hmmm.
 
To remove the bump and make the back flat again.

I'd be up for Apple making a bigger separation between Pro and non-Pro:

* Pro -- As the article, bigger lenses & benefits, camera bump.
* Standard -- Flush camera or at least try to keep it in check...
 
They are making the phone itself thicker too. The bump is balancing act to allow a great camera, but not turn the phone into a brick.
The iPhone 13 Max even though considered big, is pretty thin in comparison to most phones. I see petite people walking around with the Max in thick cases. Adding a little more thickness could have its advantages by providing enough space for an even larger battery. There will always be compromises. You can always choose the smaller Pro or standard 6.1 iPhone.
 
Because many people (me included) don’t want a bigger and heavier phone.
Not intentionally but technically necessary the iPhone camera will of course “never” be flush again.
The iPhone Max is already a big phone, making it a bit thicker to make it flush would not make any more inconvenient or unwieldy than it already is.
 
As a non-case user, I agree. But I presume most people are case users, and thus the bump actually makes sense.
I see people with some gargantuan cases on their iPhone Pro Maxes. There will always be compromises when you choose such a large phone. Its not like most who are choosing a Max necessarily even need a three camera system, but they still choose it knowing a cheaper, lighter 6.1 inch iPhone would also meet their photography needs. Which is why the rumors even say they are planning to introduce a cheaper 6.7 iPhone with the 14 series.
 
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