Kuo: iPhone 15 Pro Overheating Issues Likely Due to Thermal Compromises, Not 3nm Node

[Spaceboi Scaphandre]

Which aspect of the Pro model would have been useful to your mother? I smell overkill.

The 120hz display as she recently got an M2 iPad Pro as an anniversary present, and longer battery life because she loves playing Pokemon Go. Plus my dad and I both have 13 Pros so we thought what if we got mom a 15 Pro for her birthday, but with all the issues right now we’re gonna settle for a regular 15 instead

 

[byron_hinson]

The 120hz display as she recently got an M2 iPad Pro as an anniversary present, and longer battery life because she loves playing Pokemon Go. Plus my dad and I both have 13 Pros so we thought what if we got mom a 15 Pro for her birthday, but with all the issues right now we’re gonna settle for a regular 15 instead

Remember. No mums or dads should have an iPhone pro model clearly….

 

[Veeper]

To be honest, the previous iPhones already got hot

Which ones? I’ve had a few and they don’t seem hot, honestly.

 

[Spaceboi Scaphandre]

Remember. No mums or dads should have an iPhone pro model clearly….

You know my dad isn't tech illiterate right? He was in cyberops in the US Air Force since the late 80s

The only thing he's illiterate about is navigating macOS due to having used exclusively Windows for so long

 

[Premium1]

Ah yes like the good old Snapdragon 810 days. Way to go apple!

 

[Superrenz]

Just checked my 15Pro while charging on a regular Macsafe charger. It reaches 36.8 Celsius. Is this to warm? Your expertise is welcome. THX!

 

[Premium1]

Well at least it can run some Resident Evil and I might as well cook an egg on it.

Kill two birds with one stone lol. Apple is all about the environment lol.

 

[dwsolberg]

This is dumb. If it were a thermal issue, everyone would have it. It's most likely a software bug that's affecting some users.

 

[Joe Dohn]

for some reason apple is bad at designing thermal solutions to their products.

BAD NVIDIA! BAD!

Oh, wait.
Can we admit Apple has a problem now, or will we blame Nvidia for that?

 

[mevans7]

This processor seems to be le epic fail.

Me thinks thou hast a keyboard shortcut for "le epic fail."

 

[Joe Dohn]

That doesn't stop of every Apple release having some "-gate", because that's how you get clicks these days.

Titaniumgate!

 

[Infinitewisdom]

This is dumb. If it were a thermal issue, everyone would have it. It's most likely a software bug that's affecting some users.

Every year people find something to complain about. This just sounds like more of the same.

 

[R2DHue]

Complaints about heat issues with the iPhone 15 Pro models are not related to TSMC's 3-nanometer node that was used for the A17 Pro chip, according to well-respected Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo.

Kuo says that overheating could be caused by "compromises made in the thermal system design" that allowed Apple to cut down on the weight of the iPhone 15 Pro models. Kuo says that the reduced heat dissipation area and titanium frame have negatively impacted the thermal efficiency of the devices.

Apple is expected to address the thermal issues through software updates, but improvements will be limited unless Apple plans to lower processor performance. Kuo believes that if Apple is unable to "properly address this issue," shipments could be impacted over the life cycle of the iPhone 15 Pro.

There have been reports about the iPhone 15 Pro models becoming hot to the touch, and some tests have suggested that when this happens, the processor is throttled in order to cool the iPhone down. These tests have been benchmarks and extreme use cases that may not impact users in day-to-day life, but it remains to be seen how the iPhone 15 Pro models will run console-quality games like Resident Evil Village and Death Stranding.

Article Link: Kuo: iPhone 15 Pro Overheating Issues Likely Due to Thermal Compromises, Not 3nm Node

This sounds like a VERY hardware-only issue.

But Apple in the past has accomplished some pretty amazing feats through software that solves hardware problems, so I hope that it’s “not impossible” that Apple can solve this via a software fix.

Remember the violent shaking of the optical stabilization camera sensor issue when using Instagram or Snapchat on a small percentage of defective iPhone 14 models?

Apple issued a software fix…for that hardware issue…

But I can’t foresee a software fix for the iPhone 15 overheating issues that doesn’t involve aggressive thermal throttling measures — a/k/a a slow phone.

Any thoughts from anyone with expertise?

Anyone?

Anyone?

 

[robotfist]

Right out of the box, 10 minutes after I turned it on, it started overheating. I remember thinking, "Oh man. This isn't good at all." I had mine plugged in and charging while I was transferring all the data from my iPhone 12 to the new 15 Pro. After only being plugged in for about 10 minutes, an error message popped up saying that charging had stopped until the iPhone returned to a normal temperature. It wasn't sitting in the sun or anything. It was just moving some files while it sat on the sofa. I was honestly surprised to see that. Surely Apple would have run into this issue during their testing, right??

I smell a class action lawsuit already in the works.

 

[nadador]

Very interested to get to the bottom of this. I'm contemplating an update and was in the Infinite Loop store just today. I looked and handled the phones on all four iPhone15 clusters (to see the different colors) and I picked up one 15Pro that was very warm. The store wasn't busy so I don't think anyone had been doing anything to it, and I don't think Instagram is installed on these display units.

 

[4odomi]

15 Pro and I’ve not had any issues with heat so far.

I suspect these issues do exist, but only for gamers when the phone is working at full throttle, I doubt it will affect regular users

 

[4odomi]

why why why?? pay top price for an overheating pro model? insane!
they knew this is a big problem, so now people pay 1500$ for this..
no shame. some reviewers claim you can't touch the phone after editing some videos.

MacBooks get very hot as well, when editing heavy loads on them 😏
This is not a new problem on the iPhone and the techies are now spinning it out of all proportions

 

[4odomi]

My camera literally stopped working because it was too hot last night, but sure, paranoia.

If that's the case, than just send it back 😊

 

[TonnyM]

This year we’re getting Pro camera and Pro performance. Battery will suffer and some other stuff probably, but this is physics when you make 200 grams super computer.

 

[yustas]

I'm curious what kind of things people are doing on their phone for it to get hot?

People don't realize that the winter is coming. It's going to be a great hand warmer.

Thank you, Apple!

 

[whelmedjedi]

Call the mother nature. It will solve this problem.

Why Kuo never says iPhone 15 Pro's cpu cores are not 3nm?? Only the gpu cores are 3nm man only the gpu cores! That doesnt make whole processor 3nm. He keeps saying 3nm and 3nm..
And why we got titanium chasis if it's not actually lighter? If they still have to use less copper to cool down the processor? Because it seems last year's stainless steel was way better than this titanium chasis. And why did we got that f**in curvy glass again? I hate it man i hate it! It breaks so easily. No screen protector perfectly fits on it. Apple disappointed me so much this year. My expectations werent so high but yet they succeeded.

 

[4odomi]

Complaints about heat issues with the iPhone 15 Pro models are not related to TSMC's 3-nanometer node that was used for the A17 Pro chip, according to well-respected Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo.

Kuo says that overheating could be caused by "compromises made in the thermal system design" that allowed Apple to cut down on the weight of the iPhone 15 Pro models. Kuo says that the reduced heat dissipation area and titanium frame have negatively impacted the thermal efficiency of the devices.

Apple is expected to address the thermal issues through software updates, but improvements will be limited unless Apple plans to lower processor performance. Kuo believes that if Apple is unable to "properly address this issue," shipments could be impacted over the life cycle of the iPhone 15 Pro.

There have been reports about the iPhone 15 Pro models becoming hot to the touch, and some tests have suggested that when this happens, the processor is throttled in order to cool the iPhone down. These tests have been benchmarks and extreme use cases that may not impact users in day-to-day life, but it remains to be seen how the iPhone 15 Pro models will run console-quality games like Resident Evil Village and Death Stranding.

Article Link: Kuo: iPhone 15 Pro Overheating Issues Likely Due to Thermal Compromises, Not 3nm Node

These issues are mainly with instagram and it's not just on iPhone 15 Pro's, the same issues are happening on 14 Pro's,
That's why it's only happening to some and not everybody.
So, stop using instagram it's not the iPhone issue !

 

[lke]

I transfer the data from an old iPhone to a 14 Pro Max and it was very hot, it is almost the same with the new iPhone.

After you move all your things to the new iPhone it will work better without doing a lot process.

Time will tell but I don't think that the temperature of the iPhone 15 Pro Max is different to older phones.

 

[Billistan]

Time for an innovative case designer to work with Apple to provide induction cooling.
Apple needs to make the entire back plate a heatsink or the first iPhone with a fan.

Yup, I'd rather have a pure aluminum framed iPhone without back glass and without wireless charging. or they could just have a round cutout for the wireless charging area. Titanium was a bad choice from the thermal perspective. Stainless steel is already a bad heat conductor and titanium is about half as conductive... No surprise at all here.

 

[Billistan]

Yup “iPhone needs to cool down” just syncing the day’s iCloud Photos while on the exact same MagSafe charger on my nightstand is now a regular thing on the 15PM, never was with the 14PM.

“Charging On Hold” for the same reasons.

And, it’s fall and temps are easily 10-15 degrees cooler and my home windows are still open.

The Titanium has provided literally zero benefit for me and is pure vanity IMO with big downsides on thermal and durability of the finish and drop performance (big deal, some fraction of an ounce was removed….”I wish my iPhone was 0.4 oz lighter” is never something I ever said, but I have frequently said “man, I wish this thing wouldn’t throttle so easily”).

I've wanted a lighter pro phone for years, but aluminum was always the smart choice. Titanium is cool looking, but it's more expensive and about half as thermal conductive as stainless steel. and about 1/14 the thermal conductivity as aluminum. 🤦‍♂️