That is a good question! Short Answer: One of the reasons is because the company isn't run by people who are like about making great apple products and have the tendency to disdain if any design flaw is found on the latest hardware.
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Kuo: iPhone SE 2 Launching in Q1 2020 with A13 at $399 Price
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That is a good question! Short Answer: One of the reasons is because the company isn't run by people who are like about making great apple products and have the tendency to disdain if any design flaw is found on the latest hardware.
The answer for us is the 5.4 inch 2020 iPhone. Remember, the SE is not a 4-inch phone. That is only it's screen-size. It's 4.87 in. The 5.4 inch phone would be just slightly bigger than the SE, and hopefully build in improvements that SE owners actually care about.
This iPhone 8S is really not for us, and so I really hope it is not called the SE2.
Apple, some of us really would rather go with "small and expensive" over "large and cheap". I can save up more money to buy a more expensive phone if I need to. I can't change the size of my hands.
Consumers who are shopping at that price range aren't likely to notice (or care) about any perceived difference between the A11 and A13 chip. Apple could put the existing iPhone 8 in a new box, claiming it was updated, and very few people would notice.
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We just have to hope that this 5.4" phone is real.
It’s just sort of infuriating that the company that at one point touted how the small phones they were making were designed around actual human hand sizes and usability — now refuses to make anything even remotely close in size to the phones at that time (3.5” screens at that time)
The 5.4” iPhone will only be 4% narrower and about 10% shorter than iPhone 8. That’s a slightly smaller iPhone 8, not a slightly bigger iPhone SE.
Back then they were making an iPod with a phone added in, and oh it runs a few apps too. Small was good.
Now they're making game consoles and video players with a phone added in. So yes those need larger screens.
It's not like I don't understand why they're doing what they're doing, it's just that I'm not someone who plays games or video on his phone. I have a computer for that, but a lot of people around the world only have their phone.
I'm seriously starting to wonder if I'd be better off with a rotary-dial landline phone and an iPod Touch.
FWIW I find the glass backed 8 is less slippery than the aluminium 6, probably scant consolation if it's not the form factor you're looking for though
Well put. I'd pay $800 for a small phone with up-to-date tech inside. I like my iPhone 8 alright, but even a year into owning it, I still find myself shifting it awkwardly to reach stuff at the top.
Apple itself has provided a big clue that their phones are too large for many people to comfortably use one-handed: the "reachability" feature that slides the whole display down halfway. On a hand-sized phone you don't need a software hack to aid ergonomics.
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For watching movies, iPhones in general are quite small, frankly. For anything longer than 5 minutes, I'm pulling out a laptop or just watching it on a proper screen in my living room, thanks.
I can see why this is the ‘SE2’ - the generation mix of components appears to be very similar to the SE.
I expect we’ll see the camera module from the XR (the XR has 3GB of memory too, for the camera of course) & the screen from the 8.
And with no 3D Touch, a bigger battery + the A13 = fantastic battery life. It should be a very fast phone.
I wonder if we’ll see inductive charging? I have a feeling yes. Apple wants to get rid of all of those wires.
I expect we’ll see the camera module from the XR (the XR has 3GB of memory too, for the camera of course) & the screen from the 8.
And with no 3D Touch, a bigger battery + the A13 = fantastic battery life. It should be a very fast phone.
I wonder if we’ll see inductive charging? I have a feeling yes. Apple wants to get rid of all of those wires.
It’s also <10% bigger than the SE.
4.87/5.4 = .902
Looking at the mockup in the Forbes article, you can see it’s basically a middle ground between the 8/SE, looks a little closer to the SE to me. Also, it’s rumored to use a design similar to the 5-series of phones, which appeals to SE fans.
So much heat in this thread for no good reason. Everyone has different needs and preferences. And that’s the way it should be. Some buy based on price, some based on size. Some buy based on specs, others based on brand and status. That’s fine. Personally- I buy based on value. This “SE 2” if it has an updated camera will be of tremendous value. Nothing in the current iPhone lineup comes even close. And only a handful of offerings from other companies can compare in value. And even those - only in some certain aspects, but not as a whole package. So we’re potentially looking at a great product, in my view. What’s not to like?
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The “plenty of people who want their phone to replace their computer” can buy an iPhone 11 Pro Max at the price of a computer because that’s exactly the market it is designed for. Apple would never sell a full featured phone at $399.
Steve Jobs is dead… let’s all get over it! I could make a long list here of usability quirks that make me cringe every day. Products designed in the past 5 years would not have passed muster by SJ the way they are. And if you want to know, 3D Touch - especially on a Mac laptop or the Magic Trackpad - is the one thing that drives me crazy the most. The fact it’s enabled by default is heresy!
Then they might as well sell the soap carving prototype as the final finish.
So is yours, considering that you have no actual data with regards to how many SE's were sold and how much profit they generated for Apple altogether.
Oh the irony.
Wrong! I have all the data I need. The fact it doesn't exist confirms people don't want it. Apple builds what people want, period.
If you think Apple sold over 200M iPhones in FY2018 without an updated SE and it was a major seller, you are kidding yourself.
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For Apple 399$ is cheap. Other companies 500$ price tag is Apple‘s 1000$ price tag. 400$ for Apple that’s like 200$ for an Android.
Apple Products are luxury items and status symbols, doesn’t matter how you see it or if you just want a working phone. Yes there are cheap or let's say good value Apple Products like the 329$ iPad or the 199$ iPod touch, but still for new iPhones - Apple has always been expensive.
A 2500$ Rolex Watch is also cheap.
Total nonsense. I agree with Walt Mosberg:
“... the company noticed something: some of its loyal customers were hanging onto their smaller iPhone 5 series models — the 5, 5s and 5c — because they preferred the narrower, shorter body and didn’t mind the smaller screen...
So Apple decided to bring back the 4-inch form factor but pack it with nearly all the key components and features to be found in its larger, flagship iPhone 6s.”