I would have gotten one if had 3D touch, not a feature I use everyday but it's darn nifty when I do use it!
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Kuo: iPhone XR Pre-Order Demand Over First Weekend Exceeded That of iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus
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I would have gotten one if had 3D touch, not a feature I use everyday but it's darn nifty when I do use it!
I have waited to decide on XS or XR, I want to handle them in person first. Either way looking forward to a smaller form factor than my 7+.
The XR is extremely popular in China and will sell quite well over their. But I think the attributed success is Apple has ample stock in almost all configurations in the U.S for consumers looking to upgrade from a 6 or 7
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It might sound strange for some, but 3D Touch is a ‘make it or break it’ feature for me. I use it regularly both with third-party and stock iOS applications, it’s so much more convenient to shortcut with 3D Touch versus having to navigate through the whole application. Not to mention peek and pop features for photos, emails and messages.
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It might sound strange for some, but 3D Touch is a ‘make it or break it’ feature for me. I use it regularly both with third-party and stock iOS applications, it’s so much more convenient to shortcut with 3D Touch versus having to navigate through the whole application. Not to mention peek and pop features for photos, emails and messages.
It's not surprising that initial demand for the XS was much higher because it's a much better phone. People who are concerned with having the latest and greatest wouldn't want a phone with an old fashioned LCD display (well according to Apple it's the all new Liquid Retina, but we know it's just a fancy name for a low res LCD panel) or single camera. The XS is a far superior product when you really compare the two and early adopters are looking for that.
Over time the XR will outsell the XS because after all the people who really care about having the best phone have purchased you have more price sensitive customers left. They care less about having the best tech and just need to upgrade a phone.
Over time the XR will outsell the XS because after all the people who really care about having the best phone have purchased you have more price sensitive customers left. They care less about having the best tech and just need to upgrade a phone.
Did anyone actually read that title?
Exceeded by what? 100 phones? 10?
The iPhone 8 launch last year was comparatively a dud. It was the iPhone (initially) that nobody wanted (until they found out the issues with the X).
If this title is correct, then the XR isn't too popular either.
I'll never understand people wanting a flagship phone, but not actually buying the flagship model. Let's amortize the increased price of the Xs over the Xr. Let's say the difference is $250. That's less than $0.35 (thirty five cents) a day over the course of two years. Why wouldn't you just get the Xs?
Even if you buy it outright, like I did, it doesn't make sense to save merely $250 when you look at how long you will keep the phone.
Even if you buy it outright, like I did, it doesn't make sense to save merely $250 when you look at how long you will keep the phone.
Interesting in the UK no carrier was discounting the 8 at pre order, as soon as the X came out it was discounted. The contracts were still £50 and £75 for the X both base models. Both stupid prices imo when you could buy the same contracts on their own for £15 the rest made up the phone.
If it had the same PPI as my 6s+ I would have bought one.
Apple still offers no worthy upgrade from the perfect screen of the iPhone plus series.
If the MacBook had two USB ports I would have bought one.
I have had zero interest in any new iPhone in 3 years. And zero interest in any new MacBook offering since 2011.
Pathetic.
Apple still offers no worthy upgrade from the perfect screen of the iPhone plus series.
If the MacBook had two USB ports I would have bought one.
I have had zero interest in any new iPhone in 3 years. And zero interest in any new MacBook offering since 2011.
Pathetic.
if the se was to be redesigned with edge to edge screen and same form i would sell my xs to buy it.
I didn't preorder for two reasons.
First is the rumored LCD production issues that caused the one-month delay in the device's release. I'll give it a little time for other people to get theirs and make sure the quality is up to par.
Second is I'm switching carriers this time and a) want to port my numbers and b) want to take advantage of the $200 per line discount they offer if you finance the phone through them over 24 months. I'll do that at my local store as my online experiences have generally sucked if you do anything but an outright purchase.
I do think the XR will sell very well even at $749 and will have a fairly steady demand throughout the year.
First is the rumored LCD production issues that caused the one-month delay in the device's release. I'll give it a little time for other people to get theirs and make sure the quality is up to par.
Second is I'm switching carriers this time and a) want to port my numbers and b) want to take advantage of the $200 per line discount they offer if you finance the phone through them over 24 months. I'll do that at my local store as my online experiences have generally sucked if you do anything but an outright purchase.
I do think the XR will sell very well even at $749 and will have a fairly steady demand throughout the year.
Interesting though, yesterday there seemed to be lots still available with store pick and now zero. Almost appears Apple shut off nor from sell out.
Concerning the UK market, Apple raises prices, offsets it to the carriers if customers cannot afford it, carriers pass the increase to the user over a 24m or longer term contract. Customer believes their are receiving a deal, however end up paying more for the device rather than purchasing it outright.
Psychological games, yet Apples definition of “affordable” is through carrier subsidies and promos. I wonder if the carriers claim the device cost loss on their taxes or spread it over the contract term.
Even if Apple is offering a minor discount to carriers, this is not represented to the customer.
Carrier is the biggest winner in this 3-way relationship, however it’s “affordable” redefined, lol.
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I hear you, the physical dimension and palm fatigue is a biggy for me.
Click Bait Driven FORBES - Full Of Real Bovine Excrement Stories - was whining that Apple is in deep trouble because they have not yet run out of stock of the iPhone XR for the initial purchasers. Then this story comes along. This one is much more believable.
I don't have the resources of Kuo.
I can only do a MR check:
iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus Now Available for Pre-Order (13 pages 303 comments)
versus
iPhone XR Now Available for Pre-Order From Apple's Online Store (4 pages 89 comments, roughly 28 people confirming purchase)
I can only do a MR check
:iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus Now Available for Pre-Order (13 pages 303 comments)
versus
iPhone XR Now Available for Pre-Order From Apple's Online Store (4 pages 89 comments, roughly 28 people confirming purchase)
I disagree with Kuo's characterization as to who is buying the XS & XS Max vs the XR.
Most XS & XS Max buyers we're already in the Annual Upgrade Program, most XR buyers are NOT !
That's the key distinction !
I personally don't think Kuo has much of a clue about anything outside of his manufacturing contacts.
Most XS & XS Max buyers we're already in the Annual Upgrade Program, most XR buyers are NOT !
That's the key distinction !
I personally don't think Kuo has much of a clue about anything outside of his manufacturing contacts.
XR is sold out in Apple's target market for this device. All colors and capacities have a 1-2 week lead time in China.
The 6.1" display and dual-physical SIM is exactly what Chinese consumers want and it's clearly showing.
The 6.1" display and dual-physical SIM is exactly what Chinese consumers want and it's clearly showing.
people are getting sick of the same design so the Full screen and bit bigger is something new and somewhat "affordable" even though its more expensive compare to previous models. the color did help cuz really.. black/white and gold aint' cutting it. DO YOU HEAR THAT APPLE!! do the same for the Iphone Xs or XI Max in the future.
As the front is not going to change for awhile, I am surprised that Apple has not designed the rear glass as user removable. Similarly to the watch bands people can switch these out easily and repairs would be simpler and cheaper, oh I get it
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I doubt it is the 8/Plus users. It has only been a year. More like the 6/S users.
You're right, given Apple's current offerings. I just wouldn't consider it a low cost option by any stretch. Rather, it's the result of Apple's limited offerings.
I'm not. I find my phones to be not worth much after 3-4 years. Not from abuse, but just plain fact that a 3-4 year old phone has enough wear that anything I've had is rarely worth more than $50 resale. PLus I try to hold onto them for at least 4 years, which makes them even less valuable even if they were pristine.
Though, the more you pay for an iPhone, I think resale paints an even dimmer picture. Consider the # of iPhone X's for sale now at the $700-750 range on MR with Apple Care. What is that, $400-500 depreciation after less than 1 year? Not exactly a positive factor for looking at the "big picture cost!"
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Sure, if your "technology subscriptions" were limited to iPhones. And only 1 for you, not another for the spouse, and/or older child.
Add Macbooks to the equation, which due to non-upgradeability, are trending towards being 2-3 year propositions, things really add up.
And then iPads. Luckily I have no need or desire for an Apple Watch.
If 35 cents a day is no big deal, I can give you my paypal account info and will gladly take 35 cents a day from here out, from you and others who you convince that it's not much!
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I disagree completely. Apple has a range of options ($449 to $1099) from the iPhone 7 to the XS Max hitting on a number of different price points, all providing a great experience. If you are just overall unhappy with iOS or what Apple offers, there is plenty of competition out there for cheaper. It just depends on what you are looking for.