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Kuo: New 14-Inch and 16-Inch MacBook Pro to Enter Production This Year and Might Still Have 5nm Chips
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M2 will be 18 months newer, likely with some newer standards met (USB, WiFi, whatever) and v2 will have thousands of lines of changed code, cleaned up since v1. M1 will forever be 18 months older and less competent moving forward.
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True, but M-series chips already do really, really well in the power efficiency department.
ofcourse, technically it will be a improvement, but what does that translate in real world performance. is the consumer gonna shell out the price difference between m1 pro on a discount when m2 pro comes out when m1 pro/max is more than enough for most.
This is tech. Anyone not moving forward quickly, loses. It makes total sense for Apple to release a new MBP within a year or so Just so they can upgrade to an M2 chip (with cleaned up code over v1 + the latest comms protocols).The MacBook Pro 14" & 16" was released on October 25, 2021. It makes no sense for Apple to release a new MBP within a year or so Just so they can upgrade to an M2 chip. I rather wait and give time to Apple to not release an incremental upgrade. Take the time to bring non-incremental upgrades.
First Real-World Photos and Video of New MacBook Pro Models Begin to Surface
Apple unveiled new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models earlier this week, and the first real-world photos of the notebooks have surfaced. ...www.macrumors.com
Some (like me) will. Why intentionally buy into being 18 months behind the tech curve? Unless of course M1 savings are much more than a couple of hundred dollars.
same ! trying to not put the trigger for a MBP m1 max with -210$cad +210$cad in gift card (student). It will be too long until spring but not until fall
For me it would be enough, if they just add missing features: HDMI 2.1 and 120 Hz on external displays.
5G/eSIM would be great, but that’s hopeless.
when apple used Intel processors,they installed cpus in computers that had the premiere months earlier and were produced in significant quantities, do not count on the premiere of new macbooks in October since m2 pro and m2 max processors are only available in engineering versions and production has not yet started . for 99% premiere of m2 pro and m2 max in March or June 2023.
somne (like me) can't wait, my previous laptop wouldn't keep up with my new job so i had to get something that can accomodate my new workflow. going by the market, 14inch and 16inch are on a decent discount to offset the potential 20% gain offering from the m2 series. someone was even selling a base 14 on here for 1k, so yeah more than a couple of hundred dollars.
or just adapter thunderbolt to hdmi
esim will never happen just use personal hotspot
Alternative theory: Maybe the M2 Pro will be 5nm and the M2 Max will be 3nm. Unlikely, but you never know. Apple is doing weird stuff with chips rn.
If these new MacBooks are 5nm, that makes me less tempted to upgrade early from my Intel MBP and iMac 5K, both of which I plan to replace with a tricked out 14" MBP and a Thunderbolt Dock. 3nm will be a bigger performance jump with even better battery life. Honestly my Intel performance is still fine but just runs hot. Less of an issue for my desktop. Rumors suggest the third gen might also get OLED displays.
If these new MacBooks are 5nm, that makes me less tempted to upgrade early from my Intel MBP and iMac 5K, both of which I plan to replace with a tricked out 14" MBP and a Thunderbolt Dock. 3nm will be a bigger performance jump with even better battery life. Honestly my Intel performance is still fine but just runs hot. Less of an issue for my desktop. Rumors suggest the third gen might also get OLED displays.
I have no doubt that the next Pro and Max chips will be 3nm.
However, what I do have doubts in is whether there will be any M2 Pro and Max chips.
I have an uneasy feeling that Apple will go straight to M3 for the next Pro and Max chips.
Just a hunch I have?
However, what I do have doubts in is whether there will be any M2 Pro and Max chips.
I have an uneasy feeling that Apple will go straight to M3 for the next Pro and Max chips.
Just a hunch I have?
I would expect to see an M2 MacBook Pro this Fall because the MacBook Air exists. I just don’t see Apple wanting to have people buy the Air instead of the Pro because of the processor.
But I don’t know if Apple really needs to rush into the 3nm chips. It could be a 2023 release with the M3 name if I had to guess. But I don’t know how big of an improvement most people would see though.
All I know is that I will buy a new M2 Apple probably on Black Friday…
But I don’t know if Apple really needs to rush into the 3nm chips. It could be a 2023 release with the M3 name if I had to guess. But I don’t know how big of an improvement most people would see though.
All I know is that I will buy a new M2 Apple probably on Black Friday…
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Actually high end MBPs in 2022 seem very likely to me, at least the announcement even if deliveries are limited. Apple's lowest end laptop the M2 MBA is already on the street; my partner got a 13" M2 MBP weeks ago and she loves it. Any rational high-end MBP buyer will be waiting to see what M2 brings before buying an M1 MBP right now (except of course folks off to uni, or those with dead laptops to replace).
Such waiting and not spending is very bad business from Apple's standpoint. Folks with money to spend but postponing purchases while they wait, or folks getting tired of waiting and deciding that a cheaper M2 MBA or 13" M2 MBP will suffice. Expect an M2 MBP announcement, probably in October if not sooner.
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Suppose they don't wait for N3, and release the MBP's in the fall with N5. Then what are they going to do when N3 comes out, say, four months later in 2023? Will they do another update then (seem unlikely)? Or will the next update wait until 2024, when they put the MBP on N3/N3E using the M3 microarchitecture? The problem with the latter is that it means the MBP's, which are Apple's cutting-edge laptops, spend a long time not being on the leading-edge process.
18 months is about right IMO. If Apple wants to move to a yearly release schedule for MBPs, that’s also fine, but I’d be surprised, because if they set that expectation this year (first year of upgrades for ASi MBPs), people will always expect it.
That said, I have seen a lot of sales for M1 Pro/Max MBPs lately, so perhaps they’re not selling as well as Apple had hoped and they’ll want a spec bump ASAP to increase sales.
