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I really hope this news is true. Anyone who has to give presentations outside of their homes will appreciate the return of the HDMI slot. It will also be convenient to be able to use the SD card slot sometimes for a backup of my DSLR. But even better, it allows for a cheap additional storage for movies etc. while on the go. This is a big thing considering how much Apple charges for SSD space.
I give (gave before COVID travel bans) presentations (speaking engagements or presenting during client meetings) regularly. The lack of HDMI has never caused me heartache. Most offices anymore use screen share setups - walk into the room and connect to the web address for the room. A few have had AppleTVs attached. The last few almost always have a cable with attached HDMI / UCB-C / DP adapters. I have an HDMI dongle and I have probably only used it a dozen times some I bought it with my first USB-C only MBP.
 
Did I bring up "number of thunderbolt ports"....no. Perhaps allowing both thunderbolt ports to output to both displays is too much for the SoC currently. Therefore, HDMI which requires less bandwidth is NEEDED for the secondary display.
And it’s just a coincidence that the 2018 intel mini has the same hdmi hardwired limitation?
 
Other devices don’t. My reply wasn’t just about headphone jacks?

see what i mean about the soliloquies
Yes they do. I literally looked and EVERY Mac has a Headphone jack. Yes your post included an argument about Headphone jacks and "Apple guessed wrong with that". Again, you just don't like it when you are wrong it seems. YOU brought up headphone jacks in a Mac thread when literally EVERY MAC has a Headphone jack.
 
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"Pro" just means "Enhanced". Seriously, I don't know why this same argument has been coming up for basically a decade plus now.

“Pro” will never go away. Why? Because the good people of various Marketing Departments need to feed their kids too!
 
Yes they do. I literally looked and EVERY Mac has a Headphone jack. Yes your post included an argument about Headphone jacks and "Apple guessed wrong with that". Again, you just don't like it when you are wrong it seems. YOU brought up headphone jacks in a Mac thread when literally EVERY MAC has a Headphone jack.
It was one example of many technologies they tried to get rid of. I threw in headphone jacks for two reasons
1) while it’s not directly related to Macs it bolsters the argument
2) I didn’t think I’d have to sit in front of a panel of expert and break down every detail they misunderstood

I think it’s best for us both that going forward it’s just reacts for you buddy, I can’t keep doing this lmfao
 
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Yes, but the limitation is not as severe as they support TWO monitors over Thunderbolt. So offering a third one is obviously too much.
Given that the mbp16 has no such issue driving four external displays, using the same intel tb3 controllers, I don’t buy this.
 
I give (gave before COVID travel bans) presentations (speaking engagements or presenting during client meetings) regularly. The lack of HDMI has never caused me heartache. Most offices anymore use screen share setups - walk into the room and connect to the web address for the room. A few have had AppleTVs attached. The last few almost always have a cable with attached HDMI / UCB-C / DP adapters. I have an HDMI dongle and I have probably only used it a dozen times some I bought it with my first USB-C only MBP.
Fair enough. My own experiences are mostly from conference hotels and from higher education, where it's not unheard of to find a video projector with a vga cable. 😅
 
Your account does not correlate with reality, it is just fanboyism.

I've been repeatedly called a fanboy when I say Apple is right and an Apple hater when I say Apple is wrong on this forum.

Grouping others who you disagree with and labeling them doesn't help your argument.

I can credit Apple for many great things, but not this one. Their market share was just too small in too many countries.

That's like saying "Apple didn't help accelerate the adoption of touch screens on phones, they only had 2% marketshare". You're just wrong.
 
Nah, SD is always coming back. Even recently released cameras like the a7s III or the blackmagic pocket 6k pro have sd-slots. To get the fastest possible write speed, you'll need faster cards like Xd, Cfast,... but over the last decades, SD has always cought up after a while.

Ask how many users of the blackmagic pocket 6k use the SD slot to record 6k BRAW footage. I bet only a few considering the top SD supported card you can get maxes out at 256GB which gets you about 20 minutes of storage space.

Most BMPCC users use an USB-C SSD drive due to the economics.
 
I don't get it. How will they fit the HDMI connector in that body? USB-C can barely fit. It's not thick enough. And if it's gonna be mini HDMI then it seems to me completely pointless because you're gonna need reduction in most cases anyway 😕

I have to say I'm personally pretty happy with just 4 USB-C ... bought myself a USB-C monitor with USB hub and got used it pretty quickly 😊
 
I don't get it. How will they fit the HDMI connector in that body? USB-C can barely fit. It's not thick enough. And if it's gonna be mini HDMI then it seems to me completely pointless because you're gonna need reduction in most cases anyway 😕

I have to say I'm personally pretty happy with just 4 USB-C ... bought myself a USB-C monitor with USB hub and got used it pretty quickly 😊
The total thickness of a current MB Pro could easily fit an HDMI or almost even an Ethernet port, it's just the curved edges that makes it seem like too thin. If the new MBs are going to adopt a more brick-like design (as has been rumoured), fitting an HDMI port is not an issue.
 
Fair enough. My own experiences are mostly from conference hotels and from higher education, where it's not unheard of to find a video projector with a vga cable. 😅
Well, I think it's safe to say that you had to use an adapter for the VGA projector. Unless your notebook had wheels on it (man to I no miss the days of the 12 pound laptop).
 
Ah, the wonderful internet where everyone thinks every product revolves around them!

SD cards can now run at 90MB/s (very reasonably priced, large, usable for many purposes) or ~300MB/s (expensive, max out at 256GB right now but fast). Why does this matter?
Because it means that you can buy a Mac with smaller amounts of the max-performance flash that Apple provides, and make up the difference with an SD card that sits permanently in the SD slot. Run your mac off 256GB or so, and put your movies and music on a 512GB or 1TB SD card.
It works well, it's very convenient for many use cases. Yes, your movies and music can only be accessed at a "measly" 90MB/s or so rather than the 3GB/s of an internal drive. If that's a problem for you, you're probably using your movies and music in a highly unorthodox fashion...

not sure what you're accusing me of there. i've done that exact scenario in the past with one of these https://www.amazon.com/MiniDrive-Retina-13-Adaptor-Expansion/dp/B017HOBQ8Q

today it's no longer needed. very few customers who don't own a camera need to do something like this
 
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Seriously, I don't know why this same argument has been coming up for basically a decade plus now.

If you were a true Pro, you would know just how important this really is!!!!! OMG WTF BBQ JFK MLK FBI CIA! :D

And I do agree with you, I just wanted t have a little fun.
 

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no my memory is clear. maybe it was a major inconvenience to you but i think we're all happier today not carrying laptops with cd drives. thank Apple for accelerating that death. same with flash.
They phased out DVD drives when nobody really used them anymore, and there was a long transition phase during which Macs had both DVD drives and other connectivity. iPhones never supported Flash from the start, and it wasn't common on other phones before, so no existing use cases were affected.

The USB-C transition was, you all have to use this new port that no Mac ever included before, right now, and neither the market nor the port itself is really ready, so we sell expensive dongles so you can reverse the change.
 
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I think HDMI is back due to second monitor limitations of M1.. Like mini 2nd gen macbooks will support 2 screens; 1 with USB-C, one with HDMI..
A couple of years later once M2,3,4.. can power 2 screens via T3, then it'll be gone again..
Insightful.

It is frustrating that MacOS still doesn't support MST (multi-stream transport), which allows output to multiple monitors via a single TB port. It works under bootcamp on Intel Macs just fine. I don't understand enough about the M1 single display limitation to know if it's a limitation of the GPU, the SOC, or something else.

Maybe Apple has been delaying supporting MST since they knew that M1 would not be capable of supporting it (and didn't want M1 to be perceived as taking a step back), and once AS supports it they will announce MST support with their typical flair.

Of course, M1 only supporting a single monitor is taking a step back, so ...
 
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