By the way, I forgot to say that I really wish Apple also adds a ethernet port back, so that I would not have to use a usb-c ethernet dongle.
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Exactly the kind of extreme and inaccurate reply which my philosophy professors characterized as being designed to mislead, misdirect and confuse an issue. (Technique used frequently by propagandists.)
No one expects floppy disk or optical drive in MacBook - sheesh.
But the number of folks I have helped, who end up buying hubs and card readers for their MacBooks because of lack of ports is a little too large.
I was wrong, cameras with SD cards make up more than 90% of the market. Here are mirrorless, DSLR and point and shoot cameras being sold by card type straight from B&H. Left hand side of each photo. As Ive said multiple times, SD is the industry standard. Next.
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The 9 people who need ethernet can just use the USB-C cable.
Apple don't make an adaptor now and those available behave poorly (not working, not working after sleep) etc. As these computers only have two ports you are basically asking people to add a $250+ dock with ethernet.
We are talking about professional photographers and you are linking consumers cameras. Yes a camera you take on your vacation with you might have a SD card but like that Rebel you can also plug it directly into your computer to export the JPG's you shot with it.
Again I have no issue with SD slots on the MBA. But it has no place on Apple's pro line.
That is indeed the one that we have here that does work. The old TB1/2 one with a USB-C/TB3 converter too, but a variety of other adaptors in which there are other functions such as HDMI and USB-A have been flakey. There is a thread on here with a fuller set of experiences.
Is this the thread you mean? https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mbp-m1-wontt-work-just-of-ethernet-cable.2278109/page-2
Extremely unlikely that they'd go back to the 2008-era form factor. Ethernet is quite large.
(I would like it, but not enough to want a twice as thick laptop.)
I notice, someone posted that they had issues with a generic/cheapo brand adapter, but have no issues when using the Belkin model I mentioned, and you replied saying that you found one which works too - but didn't mention which one?
Well Im not complaining since my 5G modem gives 700/100 in wifi, I was just curious how much it would give when used with an ethernet cable. But reading your comments makes me think if I should or shouldnt buy the usb-c ethernet dongle if theyre unreliable.
The Ethernet port is pretty tall so I think that's unlikely. However, the Mini, iMac, iMac Pro and Pro still have it and some of them offer the 10 GB option with it which I find interesting. I'd like to get 10 GB for LAN screen sharing as the lag at 1 GB is more than I like. But it will be a while until all of the pieces to do that will be standard.
I have USB 3.0 and Thunderbolt 2 Ethernet dongles for my Retina MacBook Pros and the investment in similar stuff is why I don't really care that much for USB-C. I will likely transition to it eventually but am happy to put it off if Apple ships new hardware so that I can live without USB-C. I imagine that very large numbers of people in the Windows world feel the same way which is why Windows PCs and laptops tend to have the legacy ports.
Exactly.
While the commenter is correct that almost all "consumer" cameras have SD cards... there's no denying the fact that SD cards can also be found in some very expensive non-consumer cameras.
Take the Sony A7R IV. It has a retail price of $3,000. Or the Sony A9 II with a retail price of $4,500.
Those are definitely not for consumers.
And guess what... they use SD cards.
Now... almost all of the new "professional" cameras are switching to CFexpress cards. And that's exciting. But there are still PLENTY of cameras out in the world that use SD cards... both pro and non-pro.
I'm guessing Apple's thinking is if they are to include any card slot... it's gonna be SD because it is the most entrenched.
It doesn't help the owners of cameras with CFexpress or XQD or whatever. But no laptop have had, or will have, those slots.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Exactly.
While the commenter is correct that almost all "consumer" cameras have SD cards... there's no denying the fact that SD cards can also be found in some very expensive non-consumer cameras.
Take the Sony A7R IV. It has a retail price of $3,000. Or the Sony A9 II with a retail price of $4,500.
Those are definitely not for consumers.
And guess what... they use SD cards.
Now... almost all of the new "professional" cameras are switching to CFexpress cards. And that's exciting. But there are still PLENTY of cameras out in the world that use SD cards... both pro and non-pro.
I'm guessing Apple's thinking is if they are to include any card slot... it's gonna be SD because it is the most entrenched.
It doesn't help the owners of cameras with CFexpress or XQD or whatever. But no laptop have had, or will have, those slots.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It sounds like SD appeals to lots of consumers. If you're using a USB-C model, then you're used to dongles and probably have already purchased them. If you're in the group of people with MacBook Pros from 2007-2015, then you may want ports and an SD slot without having to buy dongles and hubs. Or at least fewer of them. I do have a USB-A hub though I haven't used it for a few years. The ports on the Retina model are quite generous.
The other thing is that a lot of us are using our MacBook Pros as desktops in the pandemic and attach keyboard, mouse and a lot of other stuff that would need dongles or hubs.
Yes, the pro bodies start about $3000 and the pro sport/wildlife bodies start at $6000. A full frame sensor is expensive, but putting up a A7iii, you might as well put up the $999 Canon RP and call that a pro body. While a professional can get excellent images out of it, it doesn't change what it is.
Using Canon as an example past vs present we have:
Canon 1DxIII with dual CF Express as your pro sports and wildlife body, its predecessors used CF cards with one exception, the mark II had a CFast and CF card.
Canon 5DIV with CF main card and SD backup card(when SD card is inserted the camera slows down, you only use the SD card if you must have redundancy) and this covers the pro markets mostly for wedding and events. It's predecessors used CF cards.
Canon 7DII CF main card, SD backup. SD once more only to be used when redundancy is critical as it significantly slows down the camera.
Then we are onto consumer cameras: 6DII SD card, 90D SD card, 850D SD card.
And moving on to today:
Upcoming R1 will by all rumours have dual CF Express like the 1DxIII to support the unlimited buffer and better the Sony A1's dual CF Express A slots. Fitting the sports pro.
The R5 has CF Express primary and SD backup, though this time the SD card is UHS-II it still slows down the camera and is intended for backups at events where you aren't shooting at 12/20 FPS. The entry level pro camera below the R1.
R6 has dual SD and fit in at the top end of the consumer market. And below that we have the RP which is priced so low that it can push people that where considering a 90D into full frame.
Exactly.
While the commenter is correct that almost all "consumer" cameras have SD cards... there's no denying the fact that SD cards can also be found in some very expensive non-consumer cameras.
Take the Sony A7R IV. It has a retail price of $3,000. Or the Sony A9 II with a retail price of $4,500.
Those are definitely not for consumers.
And guess what... they use SD cards.
Now... almost all of the new "professional" cameras are switching to CFexpress cards. And that's exciting. But there are still PLENTY of cameras out in the world that use SD cards... both pro and non-pro.
I'm guessing Apple's thinking is if they are to include any card slot... it's gonna be SD because it is the most entrenched.
It doesn't help the owners of cameras with CFexpress or XQD or whatever. But no laptop have had, or will have, those slots.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Only Sony crippled their cameras with SD while waiting/developing CF Express A. The pro cameras from Nikon and Canon all had CF cards for decades. And Nikon and Canon where 100% of that market and are now 80% of that market. So the vast majority of pro's that don't have a camera make after 2015 will have CF cards only. Those after 2015 will have CF, CFast, XQD, and CF Express cards.
SD slots for pro photographers never made sense. CF was the standard at that time with the bulk of pro's using the Canon 5D mark I/II/III or Nikon equivalents which have CF slots. If other industries use SD cards that is a-ok and good for them, but don't try to make it out like this is aimed at pro photographers. Sony are less than 20% of market and they'll be significantly less of them about than there are just Canon 5D II/III still in use, never mind all the 1-series bodies and Nikon's.
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You seem to be stuck on "professional" cameras. Not everyone is using a Canon 1Dx
I'm talking about cameras in general.
There are still A LOT of cameras out in the world today that use SD cards. Sony cameras prior to the A7SIII and A1, Panasonic GH5, etc. And yes... "professionals" use those types of cameras with SD cards.
SD isn't some weird "nobody's ever heard of it" card. It's huge. In general. So perhaps that's the reason Apple is putting the SD card back into their laptops.
If Apple was to include a card slot... SD would be the one.
But you use CF, CFe, CFast, XDQ... you have to use a card reader anyway. You always have. So nothing changed for them.
But my point was... it's not just consumers who would use the SD card slot in their laptop.
There are plenty of cameras out in the world that use SD cards. Including some very expensive cameras used by "professionals"
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I wouldn't mind that link too. I go back and forth on a AIR/M1. We already have one but it's WiFi only in its usage.