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I seriously doubt iPhone X would drop to 899. I think it'll remain the same price, especially as Apple wants to bump up the average selling price instead of having more sales.

In this case, I'd expect:

iPhone 9: 749$
iPhone X(s): 999$
iPhone XL: 1199$

Nope their will be price drops. They can make the price drops happen due to economics of scale and all of the people who usually give info out like Ming Chi Quo and even Renae Richie of iMore says their will be price drops.
 
How do the pixel densities of the X and X plus compare? At first glance it looks like the X plus is lower pixel density but I’m not sure
 
why would anyone want to write with the full size giant Apple pencil on a phone?
that's just dumb and I knew Apple won't do that.it's only simple minded people's imagination.
now If they make a small size stylus (similar to Samsung's S-Pen) that would be a different story.

Would a small size stylus work any differently than a full sized Apple pencil?
Would a small size stylus work on the iPad?
If both styluses use the same technology, do you want Apple to artificially restrict compatibility of full sized Apple pencil to iPads so as not to offend your personal feelings?
 
Off course, this is only your opinion, not Apple as iPad mini is left un-updated. You are entitled for your opinion though. But current size iPhone is indeed an iPad “mini” with the same iOS and vast majority setting without calling capability you can say whatever you want to deny this fact

This has nothing to do with me but I hoped to never see those annoying emojis on here. I ain’t safe anywhere no more!
 
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I'm sure front cameras will be upgraded
I one for one hope so, as its lacking.

On another note I hope the 5.8" X is priced at $800/£800. I'd like to even pay less but a 100+ price drop would definitely be appreciated.
 
Well Kuo is talking about iPhone shipments, not about suppliers. So FY would make more sense.

If he’s saying the iPhone X models won’t be selling very well beginning in January, Apple’s ASP is going to be significantly worse than this year.

I don't think you understand Kuo's audience. He works for Tianfeng Securities and previously KGI. Not Morgan Stanley. His focus is on Chinese and Taiwanese equities. He only cares about how Apple's performance will affect Asian component suppliers. Those component suppliers don't have the same calendars as Apple's.

He talks about suppliers in his research not just for fun.

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In that case then I’d much rather they price it the same as the current iPhone 8 Plus. I don’t want a cheap a$$ display, would much rather pay 100 extra for a higher resolution. That is going to look so bad on a 6.1” display for today’s standards.

And never be an Android device with Android specs? There’s Android phones with better specs and higher res displays that are cheaper. That’s my point. It’s inexcusable to me.

The pricing of iPhone 8 Plus failed. Apple already tried it last year. It was stuck in the middle. It wasn't cheap enough and didn't have the features people wanted.

The $799 price of iPhone 8 Plus was uncomfortably high and too close to iPhone X.

The $699 iPhone 6.1" is the result of learning from that experience. Consumers want a mainstream device or an ultra-premium phone.
 
Judging by those specs, a 2017 X will be a better buy than the 2018 6.1” ?
Especially considering the likely price drop for the “old” X too.
 
Judging by those specs, a 2017 X will be a better buy than the 2018 6.1” ?
Especially considering the likely price drop for the “old” X too.

They're rumoured to discontiue selling the 2017 X.

But I guess you could find it used or when places start clearing out their stock.
 
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Like last year when the more expensive model was delayed so people would buy the cheaper ones?
No. The logic then was people would buy the normal priced 8, "because I can't wait", then buy the over priced X when it came out.

Delaying the "cheap" phone is to make sure the high priced models are not affected by the "must buy asap, I can't wait" people.

You couldn't make this stuff up.
 
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6.1 LCD model. Lmao. Worse specs and screen than a samsung j7 for $200

Your post is an over-exaggeration. Even with the 6.1 LCD iPhone even with a LCD display has some of the highest quality standards with Apples displays and this will include Face ID with a new form factor. The consumer see’s the cheaper price point and new aesthetics.
 
I seriously doubt iPhone X would drop to 899. I think it'll remain the same price, especially as Apple wants to bump up the average selling price instead of having more sales.

In this case, I'd expect:

iPhone 9: 749$
iPhone X(s): 999$
iPhone XL: 1199$
There is not going to be an iPhone 9, the lineup will be X based, so it will be at least "10" onwards.
 
$300 less. You're lucky it has a modem at all. But seriously, for $300 less, you expect some things not present that you will get for $300 more.

It costs $300 less. You are lucky it has a screen at all.

Less than what exactly? It has an LCD screen so don't compare it to the X. The 8 was 699 and had the same modem as the X. If they are aiming this phone to be the mass market one then the 8S or whatever should have the same dang modem as the X2. The camera and display are enough cost reductions.
 
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I don't think you understand Kuo's audience. He works for Tianfeng Securities and previously KGI. Not Morgan Stanley. His focus is on Chinese and Taiwanese equities. He only cares about how Apple's performance will affect Asian component suppliers. Those component suppliers don't have the same calendars as Apple's.

He talks about suppliers in his research not just for fun.

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That’s his audience and that makes sense.

Translating his outlook to what it means for Apple: if he’s right about the mix of the 3 models, the 6.1” LCD model is extremely unlikely to be priced at $600.

The 8/8 Plus are 699/799, with the Plus outselling the smaller model. So the (base model) ASP would be something like $760. The 6.1” is a bigger phone than the 8 and it has FaceID. So $699 or even $749 is what I’m expecting.
 
Apple should simplify things by having a good, better, best phone lineup and update it every year. This way every phone can be considered “new” each year and the low end isn’t just a 3 year old phone at a reduced price. Maybe still sell older models in very price sensitive emerging markets like India but for China and Western markets have new phones every year. Introduce some colors that can be changed based on trends as a way of making the phones look fresh even if the design remains the same for multiple years. These are the colors of the year for Pantone and Behr. I’d love a phone in either one of these colors.

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I could see a smaller “mini” pencil being used on the next larger 6.5” iphone x plus. For making doodles & hand written notes on messages & pictures. But if apple isn’t going to do this, perhaps the ipad mini isn’t dead after all. Bwa-ha-Ha!
 
Because some people are so personally offended that anybody would want to use a device differently from the way they use it. If I don't need it, nobody else should have it either.
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I could see a smaller “mini” pencil being used on the next larger 6.5” iphone x plus. For making doodles & hand written notes on messages & pictures. But if apple isn’t going to do this, perhaps the ipad mini isn’t dead after all. Bwa-ha-Ha!
The pencil/stylus size is to suit your hand, not what you are writing on. Note stylus size is to fit inside phone.
 
I'm sure but why would you want Apple Pencil support on an iPhone? Very few people would be using the Apple Pencil with their iPhone. It makes sense on an iPad, not iPhone.

That and dual-SIM were two features that would've made me upgrade from my X, since the 13" iPad isn't particularly easy to carry around in case I get an idea I want to sketch. In fact, it's easier to just bring pen/cil and paper, and while Procreate Pocket is improving, it's nowhere near something I'd call more usable than pen/cil and paper. So, for me, it would be a big win to be able to ditch pen/cil and paper in favour of the Pencil, as well as not having to carry a second phone around at all times. Hell, if the Note were smaller, I'd probably have switched to that instead of the X at the time I made that switch.

Lots of features are used by relatively few customers, or used infrequently. That doesn't mean they don't have value, or that the customer loyalty it breeds when you encounter a device with just that set of features you need isn't valuable. People use the features that make sense for them, period. I don't see any other issue than weighing cost vs utility, and this doesn't seem like something that is likely to have a significant cost to it.

For me, the new phones (if Kuo is accurate) offer nothing over the X, and may be a step back. If the Force Touch bit is pulled, a significant step back, along with another hit to confidence in the platform, since removing features while they're still being used, without introducing a meaningful replacement, is the sort of thing I primarily associate with (pseudo-)monopolists losing the sense of sensibility one should have as a (pseudo-)monopolist.

YMMV. For many, yet another minor spec bump in the refresh game may be just the thing they want.
 
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