What's not to understand about Apple's new cheap expensive flagship entry-level phone?
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Kuo: Ultra-Thin iPhone 17 to Feature A19 Chip, Single Rear Camera, Semi-Titanium Frame, and More
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What's not to understand about Apple's new cheap expensive flagship entry-level phone?
I like it how we are getting all of those "exciting" news about iPhone 17.
Meanwhile, we are all expecting that iPhone 16 will be meh, yes?
Meanwhile, we are all expecting that iPhone 16 will be meh, yes?
All components worse, plus a single camera and is supposed to cost more than the most expensive iPhone ... LOL
The single camera could well be a variable focal length and aperture lens system. Such things have existed on Sony and Samsung phones in the past but never integrated together.
If Apple can pull a 18-120mm range with a f1.8-4 aperture with a single camera it would be an impressive feat of engineering but it wouldn’t be cheap to manufacture.
The phone may end up being 5mm thin but it wouldn’t still have a significant camera bump.
If Apple can pull a 18-120mm range with a f1.8-4 aperture with a single camera it would be an impressive feat of engineering but it wouldn’t be cheap to manufacture.
The phone may end up being 5mm thin but it wouldn’t still have a significant camera bump.
No, only The Information and a random Korean table shows it'll be priced higher. Every other analyst didn't comment on price. Kuo strongly implies it'll be priced lower since he says the high end iPhone market is already saturated with the existing models.
This probably came from foldable researchs. I wouldn’t be surprised if this model evolves into the fold
Here's how I see it:
iPhone X (new design)
iPhone XS
iPhone 11 = XSS
iPhone 12 (new design)
iPhone 13 = 12S
iPhone 14 (new design)
iPhone 15 = 14S
iPhone 16 = 14SS
iPhone 17 (new design)
So yeah, the 16 is going to be like the 11 in being a revision of a revision. For the "S" lover like me, it's a must-buy.
CPU's and Modems are two very different things. CPU's are a dime a dozen (hence why there are so many companies who make them). How many modem producers are there? If this were CPU's I would 100% say apple will match it, but it has yet to be done so clearly it is much more challenging than doing CPU's (not to mention clearly the engineers they got from Intel can't figure it out or they would have done it years ago- like rumors said).
iPhone Air incoming
iPhone 17
iPhone 17 Pro
iPhone 17 Air
Guarantee they’ll cop the existing product naming conventions or they’ll just go with “iPhone Air” with no number
iPhone 17
iPhone 17 Pro
iPhone 17 Air
Guarantee they’ll cop the existing product naming conventions or they’ll just go with “iPhone Air” with no number
They're transitioning to the iPod model. Was the most expensive iPod (iPod classic) the best? Maybe, but a lot of people bought nanos because they valued the design/form factor over the thicker one with maximum storage.
They're branching into iPhone slim for those who want the thinnest, most pocketable iPhone, and iPhone Pro for those who need maximum performance, features, storage, etc.
Now this wouldn't make sense with the slim being more expensive because the nano was also cheaper than the iPod classic. The slim will need to be cheaper than the pros.
They're branching into iPhone slim for those who want the thinnest, most pocketable iPhone, and iPhone Pro for those who need maximum performance, features, storage, etc.
Now this wouldn't make sense with the slim being more expensive because the nano was also cheaper than the iPod classic. The slim will need to be cheaper than the pros.
Where does it says this rumored phone would be more expensive than a Pro Max? All the item says is...
Kinda sounds like the opposite of being more expensive than a Pro Max.
We all remember what happened to him immediately after saying this too.
It was certainly easier but I think having choice and more price points is a good thing but they still need to clean it up a little
14 is 12SS and 15 is new design though.Here's how I see it:
iPhone X (new design)
iPhone XS
iPhone 11 = XSS
iPhone 12 (new design)
iPhone 13 = 12S
iPhone 14 (new design)
iPhone 15 = 14S
iPhone 16 = 14SS
iPhone 17 (new design)
So yeah, the 16 is going to be like the 11 in being a revision of a revision. For the "S" lover like me, it's a must-buy.
But no doubt this “thinnest iPhone ever” will have a huge camera module bump that for some reason they don’t take into account when measuring the depth of phones. The depth should be the thickest point of the phone, no point it all being thin if there’s a huge section protruding out the back.
I’d rather the cameras were flush with the back of the phone, and if that means the body is slightly thicker then so be it. More space for a bigger battery, or a much bigger camera sensor to improve the quality of the thing.
I’d rather the cameras were flush with the back of the phone, and if that means the body is slightly thicker then so be it. More space for a bigger battery, or a much bigger camera sensor to improve the quality of the thing.
Well there is no doubt in my mind that the product goal here is "a more expensive iPhone". Tim Cook has gone off the deep end in my opinion, and has steered Apple so far away from the product goals that made it a runaway success and growth machine in the mid-to-late 2000's. Tim Cook has been running a continuous social experiment for the last 5 or 6 cycles, to see what their brand loyalty can convince people to pay for something (mostly iPhone). Steadily moving that iPhone ASP higher and higher. And it has been working. Some might say this is just a CEO of a massive company doing his job by increasing revenue and growth by any means necessary. Others would say this a divergence from the mindset that Steve Jobs put in place, which was to prioritize the products and the customer, and the sales and loyalty will come with it. (and they did).
What's wrong with having options? Apple has 5 current iPhone models: Pro Max, Pro, Plus, 15, SE. Apple also sells some older models (14 Plus, 14, and 13), but while you can buy then new from Apple, they are not updated phones like the current ones (the SE might be getting updated if rumors are true, so I'm including it with the other 4). If this rumor is true and if the rumors that Apple is dropping the Plus model, it looks like there will still be 5 current models. That's not a lot.
Wow this went from being an iPhone Ultra to something less capable than the standard iPhone 17 especially with only 1 camera. The only way I do see this making sense is if this ends up being the "iPhone Fold" which would make sense why it needs to be so thin.
Otherwise a super thin single lens iPhone just sounds like Tim is running out of ideas...
Otherwise a super thin single lens iPhone just sounds like Tim is running out of ideas...
Yeah, it's a little less clear with those. I guess it depends on whether you think the Dynamic Island or the Titanium finish and Action Button are bigger design changes.
In either case, I think the main selling point of the 16 line is going to be "Apple Intelligence".