Production capacity limits explain why the Air doesn’t have the M3. They don’t explain it for something as low-volume as the VP.
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Kuo: Vision Pro Likely to Launch in Late January or Early February
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Production capacity limits explain why the Air doesn’t have the M3. They don’t explain it for something as low-volume as the VP.
Their marketing blitz began back in June at WWDC. This is a developer's tool and there are nearly 3 million iOS developers worldwide.
Spot-on assessment. It's just more of the usual Apple isn't very smart, doesn't have a plan, and is just winging it hoping to get lucky in the market. That helps many people feel better. For maybe an hour or two. That's been going on here for around 20 years.
More importantly, the same people have little imagination, have little technical depth, and refuse to even do a tiny bit of research as to where AR is going and the many advances made so far. And much more importantly, have little concept of the potential.
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You'd certainly be in good company with those who in the beginning panned iPod, iPhone, iPad, Watch, and AirPods. All flops.
I don't understand this. I have to believe you knew what your were getting into with the watch. You researched it on Apple's web site. You knew what it looked like and it's functionality. You had a return window, but you kept the watch. Yet, it almost seems like you're blaming Apple for your decision to not use the watch. I don't understand.
This will be a far larger hit than most anticipated. I will be buying one day one, as will several people I know. None of us have ever owned a VR headset, though we have tried them, and none of us cared for 3D TV. But, we realize this is different. AVP is the dawn of a new era and we want to be there at sunrise.
Just out of curiosity, how many developers do you know who are doing any form of AR/VR/XR development on any platform? How many do you know doing 3D modeling tools?
Since you have made this claim, let us make it a bit more clear so after it is released, an objective third party can judge whether you were right or wrong. What is your definition of failure?
How many units do they have to sell?
What apps have to be released?
What other criteria would you include?
Proving nothing. People who pay attention see that Apple needs new leadership.
You have no idea what this product is or what this VERSION of the product is.
You have no idea who is dying to get their hands on this or why it will sell out instantly.
And I’m guessing you have no idea of the above as it applied to the first iPhone.
Or the first iPad.
Or the first Apple Watch.
Or the first iPod.
I’m guessing that’s all because you’re too young to remember this pattern.
And too short-sighted to see how despite appearing similar to other devices in its space, this first tech demo release, like the first tech-demo releases of the iPhone, iPad, iPod, and Apple Watch, is just as revolutionary at changing what the very idea of the space is (this began at warp speed with 💯 ALL of the other players in the space on Day 1 of the announcement).
Which is all fine. You’re among a LOOOOONG list of people who have failed and will fail again and again to realize all that.
But the part people are laughing at is how sure you’re proclaiming your ignorance and how proudly you seem to want people to know it.
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It can’t succeed as a media consumption platform alone.
And I have to ask: why does there need to be a next step after television and movies? Sometimes a media is perfect just as it is.
The people who pay attention aren't the people that made Apple a $3 trillion company.
I’ve been in the Apple system since 1994. The criticism around Vision Pro is not due to youth or ignorance.
So sales is the only relevant metric?
And I disagree with your premise. The success of Apple was built on the back of a rabid fandom that knew everything there was to know about Apple. The current situation where everyone owns an Apple product? That’s basically a new phenomenon. For the bulk of its history Apple was an underdog, not a commodity maker.
But again, whether people know who the CEO is or not doesn’t really prove anything.
What accessibility features has Apple built in? Do you know? Oh, you don’t!
it’s not that difficult to understand. The new platform provides a wonderful opportunity for creative people to develop solutions for people with different needs, just like they did with Mac, iPhone, etc. I wonder what other ways to use Vision Pro can be implemented that combine voice and gestures beyond the typical intended way. Maybe even different forms of eye tracking, blinking gestures even.
What is your understanding of limited mobility? Do you think there is only one “version” of limited mobility? Do you know that there are devices that can be used by people who literally can barely move, other than moving their heads, and they can edit video on Mac? Check out the “Sady” video on Apple’s YouTube channel. It sounds like it might be something you haven’t explored before. If someone had suggested it was possible before it existed, maybe people would have called the idea absurd on a message board like this.
What is your definition of “disabled”? You don’t think a “disabled” person can put on a Vision Pro? What a vague claim.
This is what happens when we work with a very stereotyped idea of what disability means.
How might computing on a Vision Pro benefit people who are low vision, in a way that is better and more satisfying than on an iPhone or Mac? The ability to bring ultra-high quality images closer to the eye without just holding a phone up to your face. Maybe the ability to have VoiceOver read what you’re looking at based on eye tracking, as opposed to VoiceOver on iPhone where you need to swipe and swipe and swipe to move through the whole screen. Sounds like that could be great for some people.
I wonder if people with dementia or who are housebound could benefit from the immersive environments provided by the headset, which can’t be replicated on an iPhone.
I wonder if eye tracking and voice commands will be much easier to use for people who cannot use their limbs, compared to how they try to interact with technology now. The eye tracking being added to the mix could be an amazing upgrade. Maybe they could move visual elements around the “screen” with a combo of both in a way they can’t now. Who knows.
The point is, the platform provides a huge opportunity. People can be cynical and unimaginative all they want. I’m excited for what this device can do for all sorts of people!
I’m in the mood for optimism. Others can choose cynicism and pessimism, we all get to choose.
Edit: the negativity and cynicism round these parts is truly dreadful. Imagine being negative toward helping people through technology. What a disaster!
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Thank you. I understanding admitting you can’t fathom the application of the technology for these use-cases, but to base it on very simplistic idea of what “disability” is, and in such a negative way…I just don’t understand the impulse. And I’m almost always for debate. Maybe more positively-oriented questioning would work in this case.
I bet you people never would’ve thought a feature like VoiceOver would be possible.
And, once again, I point to the video “Sady” on Apple’s YouTube page. I would love for these cynics to watch that and then tell me that no one is going to think of ways the Vision Pro can positively impact many people’s lives, considering what has been created up to now.
Optimism!
it’s a developer tool, but also a consumer device. it’ll sell well, but I am sure they will start advertising heavily at some point to… the consumer and the wealthier ones will eat it up.
There’s enough Apple fans with deep pockets and blind faith that this first gen of 500,000 units, will likely sell out.
Developers and Apple will need to grow the platform with killer apps. It could be gaming, interactive movies or heck even porn.
Otherwise, it’ll just gather dust and become another Apple Pippen 😏.
Developers and Apple will need to grow the platform with killer apps. It could be gaming, interactive movies or heck even porn.
Otherwise, it’ll just gather dust and become another Apple Pippen 😏.
Maybe be more specific sometime. But again, how do you expect someone who can only move their heads, or even has dementia to use an Apple Vision Pro alone?
I'm not sure what color the sky is in the universe where half a million people are going to shell out that kind of money in this kind of economy for that kind of device.
We do know at least some of the accessibility features Apple has built in, including alternatives to the two finger tap gesture, because Apple publicly released a developer session video about accessibility features.
Actually, this video https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2023/10034/ shows them all.
For a live demo of VoiceOver, you can scrub to 2:40.
Bingo. What exactly are we supposed to do with this? I have an HP Reverb G2 and fly on DCS with it. Can I do this with the Apple VR headset? If not then I suppose it would be a nice $3000 paperweight.