Didn’t know you can use the Mac’s HDMI port (at 6K ?) combined with the USB-C ports. With a 3x 32” 6K display setup you can use the HDMI port + 2x USB-C leaving the third one for connecting a TB5 SSD or hub/dock
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Kuycon G32P - 31.5″ 6K (6144×3456) IPS Black Monitor
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Didn’t know you can use the Mac’s HDMI port (at 6K ?) combined with the USB-C ports. With a 3x 32” 6K display setup you can use the HDMI port + 2x USB-C leaving the third one for connecting a TB5 SSD or hub/dock
When I asked what the warranty was, they replied "2 years".
They just offered me free shipping... didn't even ask!
lol ain't you lucky!
On their page..
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It says:
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Shipping fee: US$174.16 for 1 piece
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We have the "official specifications." Click Clack provides an English User Guide PDF, which contains multiple, detailed descriptions throughout. You can read it for yourself. I don't have access to the original Chinese, but it looks like a careful, competent translation.
If you read it carefully, it aligns with what @PaulD-UK is saying about these video driver boards and silicon. For example: "The USB-C interface of the G32P monitor transmits AltMode DP video protocol, combined with USB data, and supports PD reverse fast charging. This interface has been updated to be compatible with Thunderbolt 4/5 and USB4 protocols." See also the Firmware Description PDF (which mentions RealTek) and the Firmware Update PDF (release notes for the version 2 update).
Here's the full section on macOS Compatibility: "The G32P monitor is fully compatible with Mac series devices, including Thunderbolt 4/5 and HDMI 2.1 of the GPU display interface 自带 (built-in) in Apple Silicon M series chips, which can display 6K60Hz in full color range. The USB-C interface supports 80Gbps mode lossless full-range input for M4 series chip Thunderbolt 5 ports. It is compatible with macOS HIDPI scaling function. MacBook series supports 100W PD fast charging function. It is compatible with quick switching and wake-up functions for connecting multiple Mac devices."
Can we say that, while the underlying video board is not certified Thunderbolt/USB4, it still works as such with regard to the display? In other words, it selects some but not all of the requirements for Thunderbolt 4/5 (USB4/USB4 V2) certification. It provides only what is needed.
Any ideas on how to represent this in the WikiPost specs? "Selective compliance" or something like that?
[EDIT: Here is what I went with: "I/O: 2x HDMI 2.1 (48Gbps), DisplayPort 2.1 (80Gbps), USB-C (80Gbps, 100W), 2x USB-C 2.0 downstream" -- comments welcome!]
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not exactly. Thunderbolt/USB4 is an additional layer of data encapsulation. It can encapsulate DisplayPort streams along with PCIe and USB (in version 4 and newer). This monitor does NOT support Thunderbolt/USB4 (proved by real owner here).
So that, the USB-C port on the monitor works in DisplayPort Alt mode with USB 2.0 data. It doesn't work in Thunderbolt/USB4 mode.
Surely, I have no doubts it can support 80Gbps but only for DisplayPort purposes. Effectively working as plain DP port.
So no Thunderbolt 4/5 on this Kuycon G32P then?
However, ClickClack site says: USB-C UHBR20 > Compatible with Thunderbolt™ 4/5 and USB4
yes, correct. There is no Thunderbolt port on this monitor. But what purpose do you need Thunderbolt for?
@thenewepic @tenthousandthings ” I have no doubts it can support 80Gbps but only for DisplayPort purposes.”
It’s a USB-C monitor that needs all 4 fast channels available (approx 26 Gbps) on a USB (3/4) cable to use for the one-way alt-mode DP stream, to the monitor.
This needs DSC to fit a 6K/60 10 bit signal.
In that two 6K monitors can work through a single 80gbps (TB5/USB4 v2) cable + hub/dock it can be marketed as ‘supporting 80 Gbps’…
It’s a USB-C monitor that needs all 4 fast channels available (approx 26 Gbps) on a USB (3/4) cable to use for the one-way alt-mode DP stream, to the monitor.
This needs DSC to fit a 6K/60 10 bit signal.
In that two 6K monitors can work through a single 80gbps (TB5/USB4 v2) cable + hub/dock it can be marketed as ‘supporting 80 Gbps’…
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Daisy chaining 3x displays would free up the ports on my MBP. And be more clutter free cable wise (cables connected out the back of the displays rather than octopus’ing out of my MBP)
Also, can connect TB5 drives out the back of one of the displays
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As discussed above, that means that it fully supports the DisplayPort 2.1 UHBR20 protocol that is incorporated into the Thunderbolt 5 specification. It does not mean it supports PCIe data at 64Gbps, or USB3 data at 10Gbps, or 140W charging, all of which are required for Thunderbolt 5 certification and/or USB4 V2 compliance. It supports 100W charging (required for Thunderbolt 4/USB4), but only USB 2.0 data, which is below even Thunderbolt 1!
@tenthousandthings ”...that means that it fully supports the DisplayPort 2.1 UHBR20 protocol that is incorporated into the Thunderbolt 5 specification.”
That’s marketing speak… 😉
Whatever spec it actually is is compatible with a subset of that spec…
That’s marketing speak… 😉
Whatever spec it actually is is compatible with a subset of that spec…
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If we can’t daisy chain dual and triple 32” 6K displays from these ports then what are they good for?
Each setup has different requirements. If these ports don’t support your specific needs, buy something else.
with this display that wouldn't work. If it's important to you, better decision is to wait for a new LG 6K.
it's just marketing targeted on mac users. New Nvidia cards support DisplayPort 2.1 UHBR20 but don't support Thunderbolt. Should we say this monitor won't work with these cards? Obviously, not.
@thenewepic ”Should we say this monitor won't work with these cards?
This monitor, without DSC, needs ~38.2Gbps, and UHBR10/20 is 40/80Gbps.
Which is beyond a USB-C cable.
But a passive TB5 cable (in USB-C mode) will work at a subset of UHBR20 with this monitor. Allegedly…
Otherwise you will have to use the DP 2.1 or HDMI 2.1 inputs.
To get three monitors with one TB5 cable/dock they have to be UHBR10 (or less), which is easy with DSC.
This monitor, without DSC, needs ~38.2Gbps, and UHBR10/20 is 40/80Gbps.
Which is beyond a USB-C cable.
But a passive TB5 cable (in USB-C mode) will work at a subset of UHBR20 with this monitor. Allegedly…
Otherwise you will have to use the DP 2.1 or HDMI 2.1 inputs.
To get three monitors with one TB5 cable/dock they have to be UHBR10 (or less), which is easy with DSC.
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Anyone who has this monitor and an apple studio display (or XDR): Is there anyway you could post a photo with the same dark image showing on both monitors? I'm very interested in it but I want to make sure the black levels and contrast ratio are comparable. I have seen the youtube video review and comparison, but the viewing angles in that video weren't setup correctly.
It is rather unlikely that you will find someone who has bought the Kuycon G32P if this person also owns the Apple Pro Display XDR
I think the black level of the Kuycon will be worse than the Apple Pro Display XDR (it would be a slap in the face for a buyer of the XDR who has spent $5500-6500 on it and the quality is identical to the Kuycon), but I assume that the Kuycon will be at about the same level as the Apple Studio Display and the black level is good for me. It's just an IPS panel!
Don't forget you get a Vesa adapter in the box so you don't have to choose between their stand or your'sThanks ! And the lowest ? I like to have my display very low
Not seeing that either on mine. I would try other cables (Thunderbolt, HDMI), and try different Thunderbolt ports on your computer too. Make sure there is no strong outside interference too like a big fan or such.
I have a Studio Display, and I actually did try to produce a picture like that in my original review, but I found it difficult to generate an accurate picture that compared the two well.
Using both for about a month now, it's possible the Studio Display is just a touch richer in blacks and colors, but I really have to look closely to see it and am not even sure it's true. I feel like the two are peer-quality. I'm not an artist though.
I tried swapping Kuycon's USB-C cable with the Thunderbolt-3 cable from my Studio Display, and System Report is still not showing Kuycon as using Thunderbolt.
If you actually read Kuycon's manual as @tenthousandthings did, it clearly says in multiple places quite explicitly the interface is Thunderbolt 5. But I don't think it actually is.
If you actually read Kuycon's manual as @tenthousandthings did, it clearly says in multiple places quite explicitly the interface is Thunderbolt 5. But I don't think it actually is.
I think the way to understand it is in the context of people buying cables for it, especially in the Chinese marketplace. No doubt changing cables is the solution to a high percentage of their customer-support calls. So they want to get “Thunderbolt 5” in there — it’s easy to understand, while USB4 v2 just descends further into the madness of USB4 and USB3. They use the word “compatible” when referencing Thunderbolt 5 — I think the message is basically “Just buy a Thunderbolt 5 cable for USB-C input and you’ll be fine. Otherwise, you’ll need a doctorate in USB Studies to know what cable to buy.”
Theres a button for 'start chat' - just ask them for free shipping.lol ain't you lucky!
On their page..
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It says:
warranty(year)
1-Year
Premium
Shipping fee: US$174.16 for 1 piece
Guaranteed delivery: 24 Aug - 29 Aug
I asked them how much shipping would be for 2 monitors and they just said it's free. No harm asking