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Every single time, Apple "sells out" and every single time, like magic, they seem to then have plenty of supply a short time later.

But the funny thing is, people believe Apple every time with their specious claims of "sold out" - to the point that certain folks even wait outside their stores!

The media never learns. They always announce the sellout like it was unexpected, and few report that there is no "shortage" when sipping times magically decrease.

It's the magic of a manufacturing plant... they keep building things when items haven't been sold yet, when they've started selling, when they've sold out and after they are well stocked in stores so that they can keep on replenishing stock... they stop making them when nobody wants to buy the product anymore.
 
awesome! I am in Delaware...so it still has quite aways to get to me. :(

Well it's in the US now. So technically it COULD get to you within 24 hours... it all depends on how fast the process goes... at some point they need to break up the big shipper and move the individual boxes. That might be done in Alaska. But either way we're getting our phones this week... well you are. Mine is going to my mom's house and she's going to mail it to me after that... did it to save 44 bucks in BS taxes that California charges.
 
Every single time, Apple "sells out" and every single time, like magic, they seem to then have plenty of supply a short time later.

But the funny thing is, people believe Apple every time with their specious claims of "sold out" - to the point that certain folks even wait outside their stores!

The media never learns. They always announce the sellout like it was unexpected, and few report that there is no "shortage" when sipping times magically decrease.

Oh, stop it. Supply and demand is too complicated a process for you to be spreading this crap around like you have the one-size-fits-all solution.

Can we agree that they had more phones ready for preorder this year than last year? Good. Apple is doing what they need to be doing.
 
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I ordered my iPhone at 5am EST and it still hasn't shipped yet I see people saying they ordered past 7:30 EST and in THE SAME STATE, and they are getting theirs on Sept 27th. I hate Apple's nonsensical shipping logic. You would think the earlier order would be shipped first, not the ones made hours later. :(

I just want my iPhone...
Don't you just love being ****ed over by Apple?
 
I also received this good news this info from Apple yesterday in the early AM.

In my case the tracking shows this shipment is handled via UPS Worldwide Express. That being said the delivery commitment is actually "one or two business day delivery from*Europe, Asia, and Latin America". I'll be lOOking for my iPhone 5 delivery Tuesday or Wednesday. At the time of this post its now in Anchorage, AK.

UPS Worldwide Express - Delivery Commitment

Export:
• Delivery by 10:30 a.m. or 12:00 noon
• Delivery by the next business day to Canada and for documents to Mexico
• Second business day delivery to Europe and Latin America
• Delivery within two or three business days to Asia

Import:
• Delivery by 10:30 a.m. or 12:00 noon
• Next business day delivery from Canada and Mexico
• One or two business day delivery from*Europe, Asia, and Latin America

PS: My apologizes if this had been covered, but a search of the thread for "UPS Worldwide Express" was negative.
 
Oh, stop it. Supply and demand is too complicated a process for you to be spreading this crap around like you have the one-size-fits-all solution.

Can we agree that they had more phones ready for preorder this year than last year? Good. Apple is doing what they need to be doing.



I have no "one size fits all solution", and never claimed otherwise.

I have no idea of whether or not Apple had more phones ready for preorder or not.

What I do know is that with pretty much every single product launch, Apple announces through the media that supplies are constrained, and pretty much every single time, the supply constraints seem to magically disappear shortly after the media reports.

Whether Apple does this on purpose, or whether Apple screws up demand estimates pretty much every single time, I have no way of knowing for sure.
 
I also received this good news this info from Apple yesterday in the early AM.

In my case the tracking shows this shipment is handled via UPS Worldwide Express. That being said the delivery commitment is actually "one or two business day delivery from*Europe, Asia, and Latin America". I'll be lOOking for my iPhone 5 delivery Tuesday or Wednesday. At the time of this post its now in Anchorage, AK.

UPS Worldwide Express - Delivery Commitment

Export:
• Delivery by 10:30 a.m. or 12:00 noon
• Delivery by the next business day to Canada and for documents to Mexico
• Second business day delivery to Europe and Latin America
• Delivery within two or three business days to Asia

Import:
• Delivery by 10:30 a.m. or 12:00 noon
• Next business day delivery from Canada and Mexico
• One or two business day delivery from*Europe, Asia, and Latin America

PS: My apologizes if this had been covered, but a search of the thread for "UPS Worldwide Express" was negative.

I just got mine via UPS Worldwide Expedited which is up to 5 business days. I think I just got demoted. :eek:
 
I ordered my iPhone at 5am EST and it still hasn't shipped yet I see people saying they ordered past 7:30 EST and in THE SAME STATE, and they are getting theirs on Sept 27th. I hate Apple's nonsensical shipping logic. You would think the earlier order would be shipped first, not the ones made hours later. :(

I just want my iPhone...

I'm in the same boat as you, man...I ordered it from Apple around 6:45 am Friday EST. And only today did my status change to "preparing for shipment" (the status of which doesnt allow for cancellation)

A funny co-incidence about that too...yesterday, I went by the Apple store fully intending on canceling my order and getting mine and my wife's phone. The kind Apple store guy outside, recommended that I call 1800 My Apple to cancel while standing in line. After about 20 minutes on hold, I finally reached the guy. But then h e recommended that I speak with ATT (thankfully there was one working the line) to get them to reset my upgrade status.

I spoke with the ATT guy and he said it was now (11am yesterday) a 72 hour wait....

So, if I canceled it at Apple.co and went ahead into the store, I would've paid full retail! I left the line and decided to just wait on my pre-order (while I watch all these punks walk out with new iPhones.

The co-incidence is, soon after speaking with the Apple guy on the phone, my status upgraded to the non-cancel option! Fishy, I tell ya!

I guess, I'll just eat pissy grits until then :)
 
in canada, the apple store aren't selling unlocked phones. Only locked for the first week. So retarded.

I was going to pick one up yesterday in Vancouver (no line ups, tons of stock), but they told me it was carrier locked. Only way to get one is waiting a week.

Keeps the scalpers away.
 
I have no "one size fits all solution", and never claimed otherwise.

I have no idea of whether or not Apple had more phones ready for preorder or not.

What I do know is that with pretty much every single product launch, Apple announces through the media that supplies are constrained, and pretty much every single time, the supply constraints seem to magically disappear shortly after the media reports.

Whether Apple does this on purpose, or whether Apple screws up demand estimates pretty much every single time, I have no way of knowing for sure.

It depends. It took nearly a month for my gf and I to get iPhone 4's, and that was hounding carrier stores and Apple stores almost daily. People elsewhere got it without trouble while we had a hell of a time.

For all we know they are conservative about initial shipment dates to prevent people from spazzing out if it's late.
 
I have no "one size fits all solution", and never claimed otherwise.

I have no idea of whether or not Apple had more phones ready for preorder or not.

What I do know is that with pretty much every single product launch, Apple announces through the media that supplies are constrained, and pretty much every single time, the supply constraints seem to magically disappear shortly after the media reports.

Whether Apple does this on purpose, or whether Apple screws up demand estimates pretty much every single time, I have no way of knowing for sure.

If you have no idea whether or not Apple had more phones ready for preorder then you have not been following the trends and reports. This year Apple sold more preorders in one hour than the 4S did in 24 hours last year. If you can tell me someone who can anticipate that I can tell you he is going to be a very rich man.

Apple can also manufacture only a certain amount of phones per day. They can either push back the day they release or open more plants to manufacture more before launch. Then there's the questions:

"What if too many are made and the phone flops?"
"Will this pace of preorders continue or will it slow down?"
"Are there more preorders because people are less willing to wait in line on launch day?"
 
I ordered directly from Apple around 4:45AM EST on Friday, so only an hour or so after the initial batch had sold out. I have received no notification of shipment so far. :confused: Could this be a difference between the Verizon and AT&T phones? Mine is an AT&T model.
I completed my order through the Apple Store App for the 64 gig black AT&T model at 12:58am PDT, and was given the October 5 delivery date (yes, 58 minutes into ordering!).

I just got notice at 4:52pm (PDT) that I should expect delivery on Sept. 28. I have a feeling you'll get yours soon as well.
 
They may be moving up the cables as well. I ordered 2 Lightning cables with my phone. At the time I ordered the scheduled shipping was 2-3 weeks with delivery 5 days after shipment. According to FedEx, they will be delivered on Wednesday (my phone arrives on Friday).

Finally! Some good news. But I am enjoying my new Black iPhone 5 that I received by UPS on Friday!
 
...or else a lot of preorders were cancelled, due to people either being able to get a phone in store on the first day,

I know a good dozen folks that ordered online and missed the launch day delivery, went and stood in line and as soon as they had the little claim card, went online and cancelled the not yet shipped online order.
 
Apple store 5th ave has plenty of stock.

Not suggesting they did not sell a lot but Apple's supply chain is clearly handling the orders well. I think an online orders gets delivered inside 2 weeks despite the 3-4 week warning.
 
That's likely true what somebody else said about the carrier stores not being able to handle large inventories. In order to even receive one pallet, the store would have to have a slide up door in the back. I know my local AT&T store doesn't have that. Which probably limits these carrier stores to having just a few cartons of them at a time. Most likely for insurance purposes also, less than 100 phones max at a time. So that's one problem with a huge phone launch like this.

Then also, true, I am not sure how many packages a company like UPS is used to handling per day to individual residences, and if 1 or 2 million packages flooding their system in one day overwhelms them or not, especially during a time of year when they are not staffed for the holiday rush or anything. But we just don't know. Let's ask Tim Cook, lol.
 
The increased supply probably consists of scuffed returns.

Not really since they wouldn't return those back to sales stock and hve the second buyer return it due to the scuffs.

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Anyone else noticing any difference between the black and white phones?

It's all about which folks decided to go to a store to try their luck and cancelled their online orders. Nothing more

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Except that I ordered within the first hour of preorder availability on the 14th from Apple, and have yet to get a shipment notification while in the meantime people who ordered 12+ hours later have been getting theirs. So Apple is most definitely not shipping the oldest orders first.

Or not enough folks cancelled an order for the model you want in order for your name to come up

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All ATT storess got a shipment of 15 units only per store.
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That's not a tech company issue. That is all AT&T. They can't return what doesnt sell so they under judge to avoid getting stuck with phones they can't sell. Or at least that is their illogic. When they run out they try to get folks to switch to a phone that gets them a better cut/commission. Not to mention that most tores just don't have the stockroom space for large amounts of phones
 
I was able to walk into my Apple Store here in new orleans an hour before they close, which is at 9pm CST (closing, i walked in at 8) and pick up a black 64gb for ATT. I had called 10 minutes before & they said they still had all models but the 16gb white and black for att and every model for other carriers. I had told myself i was going to get the black one this time, i got the white 4s last year, and before that the only iphone i owned was the original i bought on launch day in june of 07, i believe the 29th, or possibly the 19th. I still had a 100 dollar credit from when apple dropped the price by 200 like 3 weeks after it went on sale & offered everyone who got screwed 100 dollars to make peace. kinda screwy but hey. Yes they are still active, i had to hunt mine down and apple of course wouldnt help me find it and even swore to me that they had expired and werent usable anymore, i spent 40 bucks on a external hard drive enclosure so i could read the data off my dead powermacs hard drive to get the coupon, anyway sorry im getting away from the point. The supply is even more astonishing this year considering all the orders and that again i was able to walk in the store and get almost any model.

Like i said i had got the white one because i became enchanted with it in the last few years when i was disabled and without a phone, and when i finally got a phone again, the 4s, i said ill get black next time. I was trying to stick to my guns and did because they only had black 64gbs in stock for att, so they sold alot in the 10 minutes since i had called, but i havent even opened it yet because I'm just really put off by the issues with the scratching of the anodized black back. Im assuming that the white model wouldnt be nearly as bad and that possibly on the white model the shiny bezel wouldnt scratch away because its the natural silver to begin with (is that correct). All of this might be too much for me to ignore, i like the white already, this year the color is a whole different choice, almost like having to pick two colors, but should i just stick a full body screen protector on it and go from there or swap it for the white model, assuming its not even near as prone to the scratching, or at least not nearly as visible when it is scratched. Any and all thoughts are appreciated, you can PM or just reply here.

Also, what is the absolute best screen protectors, i've seen great things said about the spigen sgp glas.t (spelling?) but it appears thats a front screen only protector and im more worried about the back scratching than the screen itself (crazy thought). So when it comes to full body protectors whats the best choice, i dont use any cases so i dont need to worry about the thickness of the protector as long as its not ridiculous. Did anyone buy protectors in the apple store for the 5, in any store for that matter, and if so what'd you go with?

Thanks y'all and sorry for the long post
 
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