Now they just need an ARKit app that allows you to point your device at two Apple products and get a visual of the cords, adaptors, and dongles required to connect them. It could even list their cumulative price!
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You sir are a legend!
I don't need to have a menu be any more personal, just bring me my food I'm planning on eating. "How large would you say the salad is?" "Oh here sir let me hand you a $500 iPad so you can wait a few seconds for this to load, you can pan and zoom and rotate this virtual salad, all while I ****in stand here NOT putting your order in while my seven other tables wait for their drinks. But I can't leave because you're holding one of 25 iPads we had to buy for you and other customers to play with a 3D salad you'll decide not to order in the end."
It. Is. Full. On. Gimmick.
It's not about food.
It's about how easily devs can integrate it.
Not every fart app is great. But it was a breakthrough to have Obj-C/Swift apps on you all the time (I mean on smartphones, post-iPhone, 2007+).
And this is the same. It's not about one food app. It's about the ease of development. Now, normal developers, without super AR skills and technologies can utilize it.
It may lead to 3D fart apps, but it can also lead to great things.
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You seem like an angry person. Relax. Just because you don't see or appreciate the value in it, doesn't mean others can't or won't.
And that 'something' relating to Glasses should be out already or simultaneously with AR. It's like Apple is asking customers to BEG for Glasses which is incredibly insulting. Almost as if they're waiting for the problem to show up. It should be dead on obvious that AR glasses should be released as an accessory option.
That AR painting app is a bit ridiculous because holding the iPad while painting with the Pencil is not going to be ideal for a long period of time. They're going to need some form of 'steady cam' mount to hold it while painting it. People need to wake up and realize this is total hypocrisy on Apple's part.
I've seen painting apps used for VR and they're far more immersive. I know that some illustration pros in the field are using the VR kits for 3-D modelling ( one artist I follow on Instagram does this and he's a prominent concept artist ) and creating artwork in 3-D space. That's going on right now. They're not going to be holding up an iPad doing this because they're NOT even waiting for an Apple Glasses to 'solve' the problem. They're already ahead of the curve.
Remember when they said they didn't want to do a touch screen Mac due to 'gorilla arms'? Well, take a LOOK at the ARKit and how people holding it up. The Glasses should have been on the way RIGHT. NOW.
I don't think Tim Cook meant about Apple 'changing the world with their products' especially with AR. They want to MILK it. Anyone there who says " We want to change the world with our products " when the company has been around since the late 1970s is a lying fool. There is NO reason to be saying things like that. The products should be speaking for themselves. It's a classic case of 'masking' the truth or motivation.
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So you mean to spend at least $1,000 for a phone just to play an ARkit game? I just saw the Zombie AR game and didn't find it impressive. I've been playing video games my entire life for years since the 80s and it takes a LOT to impress me. Seriously. They can do far, far better than this AR thing.
The VR version for a zombie game that I played last year was a far better experience as you can literally point and shoot at with them with the controllers. You can even duck or peek out as you have to literally watch your back and surroundings at all times. That's how frightening the game was.
Plus the VR kit is cheaper than a $1,000 phone (if they ever go that high with the price ) and as long as you have a competent PC to do the job.
I actually mean to purchase an iPhone as the older 6 I have is 'bout filled up to its capacity. Could get the 7S but then again, I just might get the 8 as I use them long enough to get my money's worth.
Thing is, I'm not much of a gamer but what I see with the capabilities of ARkit does kinda impress me, as mindless few minutes of fun with the ability of others to see and interact is what I like the most.
I see your point, undoubtedly but I'm just in the market for a premium phone with best possible build quality which will allow me to use it for few years, everything aside from it is just cherry on top.
It's just for the moment perhaps, but I'm more inclined for AR > VR.
Cheers mate.
I imagine transparent AR Glasses would be really hard to get right as they have to guess what you are seeing through the lenses (i.e. the relative position of your retinas. If the glasses slip down your nose a little, the AR overlay would be out of line. They might be able to correct for this by tracking your retinas... but it's way harder than just lining up a 3D object by tracking the location of a fixed screen.
If the Glasses were 'just screens' like a VR headset it might be easier, but expect some major motion sickness.
Reset stick? RESET STICK?!? Clearly, whoever designed this app never had a dog that just left the stick/ball/frisbee somewhere for YOU to go pick up. In fact, they should redesign the app to do this and tie it into Healthkit so you get some exercise.
I get what you're saying, but my answer is although with a certain ambiguity; no, I wouldn't.
That's nothing a simple video or for the most part even a picture won't do. Again, where's the "R" in this? AR is supposed to enhance reality aka what you see through the devices camera. But there's hardly any camera-recorded content in those examples.
If you could just point your camera toward the real food and then the app would show you yelp results for it, THAT would be AR.
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Can't wait to see kids playing out side again ... with virtual pets ...
The fact you talk about unreal makes me think you have no clue really.
Getting context vs size and how the object would turn out in current lighting alone is not something you'd get from CG.
Positioning the object in a precise and intuitive way would be much easier to do using hand and POV.
Can you pick the food with your hands, flip it, open it up easily if it is CG , can your grand ma do it ? Not unless your importing real word data into your CG scene (then why bother doing it through CG).
If you don't see the difference between interacting with an object directly and using the phone interface to do it, well I can't help you.
Replace food with any object you have online that has to also fit in the environment and you can even operate/use some of them .
[doublepost=1504026976][/doublepost]So many important issues we are facing right now and this is what people are making? All i really see with this is more germs being spread. #idocracy
Apple's iOS 11 update is just weeks away, and as the launch date approaches, developers have been experimenting with ARKit, the set of augmented reality tools Apple built into the operating system.
We already know ARKit will work with a huge range of apps, from games to utilities to shopping, and the latest demos below give us an even better picture of what our iPhones and iPads will be capable of once ARKit-based apps are available to the public.
In the first video, a company named Kabaq demonstrates virtual food on a plate, which is how future food ordering apps might take advantage of ARKit. Using Apple's feature, restaurants will be able to give customers a 3D look at what different dishes look like.
In a second video, ARKit is used for painting and sculpting, with developer Fabin Rasheed demoing a sculpture using the Apple Pencil on the iPad Pro. His app, MakerStudio, is designed to allow users to create 3D objects and then paint them, all using augmented reality.
A third video for an upcoming game called ARZombi shows off how ARKit might be used in an ultra realistic augmented reality game. In the demo, virtual zombies are shown invading a person's living room using ARKit.
An ARKit world creation game was also shown off earlier this month, further demonstrating the kind of games that will be made possible with Apple's augmented reality tools. In the game, players control a tabletop world populated with villagers.
Finally, an upcoming virtual pet game that's currently on Kickstarter gives us a peek at what could be a super popular ARKit app category -- Tamagotchi-style apps where a virtual pet is brought into the real world.
We're nearing the end of the iOS 11 beta testing period. Apple is likely to release a golden master version of iOS 11 on the iPhone event day, which is rumored for September 12, followed by an official iOS 11 public release a few days ahead of when new iPhone models go on sale.
When iOS 11 releases, we'll start seeing the first ARKit apps in the App Store. Before then, make sure to check out all of our previous ARKit coverage below to see what else developers can do with it:
- ARKit Roundup: Turn-by-Turn Directions, Precise Room Measurements, and Pac-Man
- Apple's ARKit Used to Recreate Classic A-ha 'Take On Me' Video
- Apple Users' Mixed Reality Future Teased in Latest ARKit Demo
- Latest Apps to Showcase Apple's ARKit Include Simple Measuring Tape and Minecraft
- Developers Share First Augmented Reality Creations Using Apple's ARKit
- Latest ARKit Demo Showcases Virtual Drawing
Article Link: Latest ARKit Demos Include Sculpting, Food Ordering, Virtual Pets and Zombies
You can zoom, see what your burger looks like with your "dressings", different bun choices, etc. It's actually a good application for AR at a sit-down restaurant, not so much for a standup "line" type; due to the inordinate browsing time possible.
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Sigh. How quickly we become jaded...
These are just playthings for Devs. to get familiar with the SDK...
Put a quarter in, get 15 mins of charge?
Not a bad idea, since my iPhone 6 Plus can get about 35% charge in 15 mins, certainly enough for several hours...
It's possible that "changing the world" requires a bit more than just an idea. Hell, every member of this forum has ideas. Congrats! Gold stars around! But it is an entirely different game to take an idea (even a really, really good one) from idea to a globally relevant product that creates, establishes and grows a sustainable market - let alone, chances the world. The later requires a vision, discipline, experience and grit few posses.
So while I hear you, it might be that this initial implementation is Apple's toe-dip in the AR waters. Why would they NOT leverage their bazillion member user base by offering a taste of AR on all of those iDevices? This introduces an established audience to a new tech, that if well received, may justify additional hardware/investment.
Google Glass is the perfect example of an idea (maybe even a good one) that lacked the discipline/experience to effectively bring it to the masses.
Yea that food really looked like it was straight out of Super Mario 64... get a clue. AR isn't about graphic quality for some of these apps. It's about immersion and interacting with the digital assets in a real world environment. This isn't here to compete with the realm of AAA video games.
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I didn't know people were using 2-3 inch phones. I hope you also realize VR is never going to take off. It's a gimmick and the current video games that support it treat it as a demo or a rail shooter we used to play on arcade machines in the 90's. Nobody wants to sit around with a big headset on looking like a dweeb.
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Pokemon was not a gimmick. It's an AR game that lots of people enjoyed playing (for a while). Although AR isn't the next "mouse" or "internet", it is a nice new addition to the computing experience... wherever it ultimately may end up.
Is there anyone making software for creating AR-enhanced tours? What I'm thinking of is me using software to create a tour of a building as an app. When someone uses the tour app I have created for that building, they can hold up their iPhone inside the building, my app will recognise the building's interior and overlay information, directions etc that I have created for the app.
And so is the AR as a gimmick. You need to get realistic here because VR is not going away and this is NOT the 1990s anymore. VR has improved since then and has practical application use. This is not just about arcade action but also of work-related procedure, design, modelling, virtual data manipulation, etc.
The only DWEEB thing is an iOS owner holding an iPad around in public for long periods of time trying to use AR, playing a game. The HTC Vive that I tried out was definitely NOT a demo unit nor were the games.
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That may be the case when it comes to using AR on a brief moment for utilitarian apps to assist on product viewing, measurements, guidance, etc. But Apple is looking to make money off it and some AR apps are not going to be free, to my understanding. As a gamer, it may have some extensive use as a supplementary form of gaming enhancement for tabletop RPGs, TCGS, and such. Any further than that requiring to hold the iOS device for long periods of time gets tiring.
I use an SE and it's simple enough to get the job done so I have not upgraded to a 7 at all. I may even skip the 8 until 2018-19. The only game I use on my SE is Ingress and that's it which can tend to take up a lot of juice and I'll bet using AR will drain the battery a bit more. I tried Qlone which is a 3D mapping app on my phone and it didn't quite work, making my iOS device warmer as it processed the modelling. I was a bit alarmed at that and deleted the app.
If I wanted to game, I rather use analog controls on PS3 or such. I was hoping Apple would be smart enough to release the Glasses along with ARKit because I don't think holding up an iOS device for such long periods of time would make sense but they would need a 'hand' detection mode so that your fingers can operate what's on the screen or visually via Glasses.
I suppose that if they were to implement the Glasses to, as you said, justify the additional hardware investment, then they would be wise enough to do it soon before the next September keynote of 2018. The last thing they would want to do is wait much longer. Again, I find it hard to see how Apple will use AR as their means to 'change the world' when it's really a money grab. The iPhone and iPad was already, at this point, a world changing paradigm.
So many of the "It's a toy or gimmick!" comments with regard to mixed and augmented reality may be due to the media primarily focusing on how it's being implemented on phones and tables. Other examples of products being developed are the car windshield projectors from WayRay which is bringing AR/mixed reality to vehicle navigation;
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the goggles from Meta, who's tech may help redefine cubicle workspaces;
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and the immersive room projectors from BroomX
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Combine this with what Apple, Facebook, Microsoft, Google, etc. have already shown in the communication and entertainment areas and 2018 will be off to a great start when it comes to bringing consumer level AR to the masses.
EDIT: Apologies for the messed up original posts.
the goggles from Meta, who's tech may help redefine cubicle workspaces;
and the immersive room projectors from BroomX
Combine this with what Apple, Facebook, Microsoft, Google, etc. have already shown in the communication and entertainment areas and 2018 will be off to a great start when it comes to bringing consumer level AR to the masses.
EDIT: Apologies for the messed up original posts.
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The most common complaint was about their slow pace (or lack thereof) in VR.
As for AR, many apps had already existed, just without a common, standardized Apple-provided API.
It's nice they got into it and make things easier and probably a lot higher quality in the process, but it doesn't really address that to get decent VR performance on a desktop Mac you are either looking at hopelessly outdated machines or overly pricey machines for the job. Or machines that still can't get the job done.
Meanwhile Average Joe can start playing VR games on a Windows box today at reasonable costs (for the computer itself, because that's what the computer manufacturer can influence)
You may not care about VR, but apparently since WWDC 2017 it's a new metric Apple wants to be measured by.
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