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Latest Leopard Visual Tweaks and Intro Movie

arn said:
I think it was a political decision, not to destroy the market for VMWare and Parallels.

arn
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They had no problem obsoleting SuperDuper! and CCC with Time Machine, or in part VirtueDesktops with Spaces...or Chicken of the VNC with Screen Sharing...or the app that makes iCal's icon behave like it does in Leopard...the list goes on...
 
Manic Mouse said:
It's not final yet so it may be in the shipping version of 10.5. It really should be as it's a widely spoken language.

I had a dream about a Leopard last night. I'm getting really impatient, it seems like I've been waiting forever for 10.5. And now I've warmed to all the interface changes I love everything about it!
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Yah I'm still pissed...No Egyptian Hieroglyphs? WTF Apple!?!? ;) :p
 
MacFly123 said:
The first time they posted the video with the new space theme the only thing anybody said was..... waaaa the music is the old one waaaaaaa, they need new music waaaaaa..... it's so outdated waaaa.... its annoying waaaa..... Now they put new music that is cool and pretty hip, and all anybody does is still complain lol. You people are amazing.
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It's not new music. It's music taken from one of their commercials. :)

All these images are past their bandwidth usage before I get a chance to see them!! Engadget (or whoever it is that posts those massive galleries), where are you when I need you!!

-Alan- said:
I agree...something like this. :D

Edit: If you don't know where that's from.
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There are some things I'm glad I was alive to witness.
This isn't one of them. :)

arn said:
Where did you read that? Parallels hibernates fine, as does Mac OS X (sleep).

arn
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Actually, the only times that my iMac comes to a screeching halt is when I am trying to wake up my computer on Tiger. I haven't seen that it is a hardware issue (according to the hardware test), but am just wishin' upon a star that getting Leopard will squash all those power saving option issues (dimming screen, anyone?) I can't seem to get through on Tiger. :)
 
Wayfarer said:
...therefore, the perfect candidate, the missing piece to the unified puzzle! I wonder if it'll replace the age-old aqua?
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Aqua is not "old" per say, it is refined...its really different to OS 10.0, and Leopard looks incredibly modern compared to any other OS I've seen...
 
arn said:
Where did you read that? Parallels hibernates fine, as does Mac OS X (sleep).

arn
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They both hibernate fine, but in those cases the machine is off when it's in hibernation - when it comes back, everything is exactly as it was left. If you could change the disk state whilst it was in hibernation, all sorts of weird stuff could happen.

There was some discussion on the feature on one of these forums around WWDC. Thread here.
 
psychofreak said:
They had no problem obsoleting SuperDuper! and CCC with Time Machine, or in part VirtueDesktops with Spaces...or Chicken of the VNC with Screen Sharing...or the app that makes iCal's icon behave like it does in Leopard...the list goes on...
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Don't think Time Machine makes bootable backups. Which is a huge part of both SuperDuper! and CCC.

-Kevin
 
MacFly123 said:
The first time they posted the video with the new space theme the only thing anybody said was..... waaaa the music is the old one waaaaaaa, they need new music waaaaaa..... it's so outdated waaaa.... its annoying waaaa..... Now they put new music that is cool and pretty hip, and all anybody does is still complain lol. You people are amazing.
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Remember that everyone doesn't say the same thing... I liked the previous music, but the newest theme... not so much. But, meh, it doesn't really matter: it's just an intro video. :)
 
Project said:
I am really surprised that Apple themselves haven't produced an app that utilises CoreAnimation to show exactly what it can do.

I mean, you have stuff like the New York Times reader on Vista that shows the potential of WPF and its pretty awesome. I hope the likes of Delicious Monster and co find cool ways of using CoreAnimation
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I am too. I was expecting much more. And honestly, I think so was Apple (hence all the "top secret" promises) but they got sidetracked and delayed, first by the Intel transition and then by the development crunch with OS X Mobile.

So instead the ball is in the developers' court with CoreAnimation... while Apple figures out how best to use it. Apple's biggest advantage vs. Microsoft is that (when focused) they can be so much nimbler, what with them not having to cajole along 80 kajillion people to upgrade to their latest and greatest thing. MS surely will have learned *something* from the Vista fiasco, though, so it'll be interesting to see what happens next.

re Times Reader - indeed, that looks quite cool. Although it reportedly will be coming the Mac soon after Silverlight 1.1 is out.
 
Arnel said:
They both hibernate fine, but in those cases the machine is off when it's in hibernation - when it comes back, everything is exactly as it was left. If you could change the disk state whilst it was in hibernation, all sorts of weird stuff could happen.

There was some discussion on the feature on one of these forums around WWDC. Thread here.
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And that's probably why Parallels does not allow you to suspend Boot Camp instances. They must be shut down completely.
 
Leopard seems to be very finely-tuned, and I look forward the most to the new mail program (because the current mail is so awesome!). I also look forward to spaces, and to the new finder w/ coverflow. To the average user like me, what's "under the hood" doesn't really excite me as much as the "what this means to the user". I'm sure there's a lot of cool new stuff under the hood (core animation, etc.) that will make the user experience fantastic. I also love time machine but I won't use it because my external hard drive now is so loud and i dont want to keep it on all the time ( I would have to, right?). The external hard drive is louder than my iMac and mbp combined!
 
Leopard - Audio

Has anyone got information on changes (if any) to the audio side of things in Leopard? I assume core audio and core midi are unchanged? Any hints from the Logic 8 release?

The new 'look' and UI of Leopard is hideous. I wish someone with taste was working on this at apple beacause whoever is coming up with this visual vomit should be boiled in oil.

Still... as long as it works... bug free... here's dreaming...:rolleyes:
 
this was probably addressed a long time ago, but will time machine work with one partitioned HD? and if not... why? honestly, its a bazillion times more likely that i accidently trash a file before my HD completely dies, so if time machine doesn't work (also) on a separate partition of the same HD that's kinda ass.
 
Project said:
I am really surprised that Apple themselves haven't produced an app that utilises CoreAnimation to show exactly what it can do.

I mean, you have stuff like the New York Times reader on Vista that shows the potential of WPF and its pretty awesome. I hope the likes of Delicious Monster and co find cool ways of using CoreAnimation
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There's also zero reason to upgrade to Vista to get WPF. Simply bundle the .NET Framework 3 or above with your WPF application's installer and XP users are fine. WPF is not a selling point of Vista.

Also, WPF is a nightmare to code for. MS have thrown out the paradigm used by Windows coders for so long and managed to replace it with something rather cumbersome.

Finally, when Leopard ships, there'll be a copy of Xcode right there on everyone's install DVDs which is 100% capable of letting developers use every cool new thing in Leopard. Vista's been out for... well, since November last year for MSDN people like me. The latest non-beta version of Visual Studio still doesn't support developing for WPF/WCF/etc. Sure, there's a ('Technology Preview') plugin -- not updated since February -- which gives some flaky, unintegrated WPF support to VS2005, but it's not worth bothering with for any serious application.

So, the Windows dev community are stuck with a kludged VS2005 or a Beta VS2008 for building Vista (or, more correctly, .NET3) applications... and Vista's been 'Gold' for at least 10 months...

I'm expecting adoption of Leopard's features amongst 3rd party apps to be very swift. Within a couple of months you'll have real apps doing really cool stuff with tech like CoreAnimation -- not just some 'technology demo' stuff.
 
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