I don't know how anyone can defend a handheld device that needs to be held a certain way to work.
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Law Firm Gearing Up for iPhone 4 Suit Over Signal Issues
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Because it works for me just the way I like to hold it.
Because it is light years better then my old 3G was.
There is only one problem with hiring a bully (in this case lawyers) to fight with some other bully you're having a problem with (in this case Apple). When your hired bully gets some money out of Apple, why would he give it to you? You hired him specifically because he's more powerful than you.
Your bully will disguise his vigorish as lawyers' fees, but do the math. Let's say your bully puts 10 lawyers at $300 an hour on this. Say they each bill 7 hours a day and bill nothing on weekends. They spend 3 months on this and charge nothing for copying, travel, depositions, etc. At the end of this they win the case, get everyone a free $5 bumper, and present their bill to the judge. The bill is $13.6 million. Apple pays $20 million in total (the $13.6 your bully, $5 to you and 1 million of your fellow injured, and some extra for expenses).
Who is the winner?
If the phone works for you, then you're likely not interested in the lawsuit. For those of us for whom the phone does not operate properly, telling us to "adapt" (which is exactly what Steve Jobs has done as well) is not an acceptable response.
Yeah....jerk. I'm sorry but do I not have a legitimate gripe? Apple says there is no fix and if i return it then Att is saying I have to pay a restocking fee.
I did nothing wrong and am getting screwed.
The only people who make money in class action suits are the attorneys, which is why they're soliciting whiners.
You can get AT&T to waive that fee if you complain to the right people. Or you could spend $5 on a case. Or you could wait until 4.01 is released and have the problem solved. Apple always claims there is no problem right up until they have a fix for the problem. I doubt it would take more than two more weeks for this.
Wow, I can't believe this...
Folks,
Kindly grab an old radio with an antennae and then extend the antennae up. Hold the tip of the antennae. Signal loss correct! Now put a antennae ball in the tip now hold the antennae ball, no signal loss right!
My god, and how many times do they need to explain this... but then again my apologies they do not have this in the mountains...
Folks,
Kindly grab an old radio with an antennae and then extend the antennae up. Hold the tip of the antennae. Signal loss correct! Now put a antennae ball in the tip now hold the antennae ball, no signal loss right!
My god, and how many times do they need to explain this... but then again my apologies they do not have this in the mountains...
The point is not to make money on a personal level, it's to take it from Apple - which is the only thing that motivates them to change (sadly).
Best response of the day!
I'm glad I don't have this issue....yet, at least. Anyway, I think Apple will resolve this soon. Isn't this the worst press they've ever received?
Hmmmmm
For those of you that don't want to pay a "restocking fee" from AT&T consider this
Return the phone, pay the restocking fee of what $50 and have no iPhone, but you can get a phone that supposedly doesn't have this issue, do they still have RAZR's.
The short term fix is to buy a case, you were probably going to do that anyway at some point - admit it, you were. You just don't like the idea now of "having to buy it". Most people I see with an iPhone have it in some kind of case, and there are 100's of designs out there. The average case or bumper cost something like $25-$30, but you'll still have your shiny and pretty iPhone.
Case $30 (estimated)
Restocking Fee $50 (estimated)
Personally I'd pull the bunched undies out f the crack in my *** and get the case.
BTW, if the phone is defective they won't charge you a restocing fee. If you return it just because you don't like it then a restocking fee is warranted and should be charged.
As far as the "defect" goes that has not yet been substantiated and you haven't given Apple or AT&T adequate time to try and resolve the issue and they have said what the possible remedy could be.
If you don't want to buy a case just yet, you could do what a co-worker of mine did, he put small peices of tape over the antenna lines, guess what, no more issues because the tape also covers the antenna like a case would and his hand hides the tape when he is holding it so nobody will see it anyway. Although he only did that until his case comes in a few days
I personally have not experiencedthe problem, but I did buy a case last night because I feel better now that my iphone is in a case because it has a better grip and some minor protection. After all I did have a case on my iPhone 3G for two years, why would I not want one on this phone. Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever had a phone without somesort of case.
For those of you that don't want to pay a "restocking fee" from AT&T consider this
Return the phone, pay the restocking fee of what $50 and have no iPhone, but you can get a phone that supposedly doesn't have this issue, do they still have RAZR's.
The short term fix is to buy a case, you were probably going to do that anyway at some point - admit it, you were. You just don't like the idea now of "having to buy it". Most people I see with an iPhone have it in some kind of case, and there are 100's of designs out there. The average case or bumper cost something like $25-$30, but you'll still have your shiny and pretty iPhone.
Case $30 (estimated)
Restocking Fee $50 (estimated)
Personally I'd pull the bunched undies out f the crack in my *** and get the case.
BTW, if the phone is defective they won't charge you a restocing fee. If you return it just because you don't like it then a restocking fee is warranted and should be charged.
As far as the "defect" goes that has not yet been substantiated and you haven't given Apple or AT&T adequate time to try and resolve the issue and they have said what the possible remedy could be.
If you don't want to buy a case just yet, you could do what a co-worker of mine did, he put small peices of tape over the antenna lines, guess what, no more issues because the tape also covers the antenna like a case would and his hand hides the tape when he is holding it so nobody will see it anyway. Although he only did that until his case comes in a few days
I personally have not experiencedthe problem, but I did buy a case last night because I feel better now that my iphone is in a case because it has a better grip and some minor protection. After all I did have a case on my iPhone 3G for two years, why would I not want one on this phone. Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever had a phone without somesort of case.
Hi Folk,
You don't hold a radio's antennae to operate it. You do hold a cellphone to operate it.
Thank you for bringing up a pointless analogy.
Sorry apple deserves what it gets this time. Apple could have handled this head on to fix it, instead they bury their corporate head in the sand and say that its not a problem, all phones have this, just hold it different.
You totally missed the point, I don't want any money from this lawsuit, I want Apple to acknowlege this problem and fix it before I'm stuck with a 2 year contract with AT&T with an intermittent phone
I can't believe you people are defending a flaw in the design. I've owned every iphone so far and have never used a case....i should not be required to do so for the phone to operate properly.
The main issue is Steve Jobs denying the issue and turning it around on the people that are having the problem. We may have only spent $200-300 but that is the subsidized price....in all reality its more like $700-800 to Apple....they need to own up to their mistake.
4.01....maybe it will fix the issue but you dont know.
The main issue is Steve Jobs denying the issue and turning it around on the people that are having the problem. We may have only spent $200-300 but that is the subsidized price....in all reality its more like $700-800 to Apple....they need to own up to their mistake.
4.01....maybe it will fix the issue but you dont know.
I think it is an acceptable response and that people do it every day to use a product they like.
So filling a lawsuit when a $20.00 case will solve the problem and protect your new phone is more acceptable?
That question will be central when you finally get to court. The jury, who will be instructed to apply reasonable logic will make the decision for you and you will look and sound like a cheap whiner.
It's amazing what greed can do.
If they push this now, they'll lose. Hard.
The product just came out. I highly doubt Apple will let itself become beset by a lawsuit, however frivolous, that could potentially turn into a huge PR mess. TBH, I see two things happening: 1) Apple giving free bumpers to everyone, and 2) software/firmware fix.
Which, coincidentally, will happen before this law firm gets enough people to start the suit.
Also, there's another issue why this will fail. No one's forcing you to buy the phone. There's no false advertisement, there's no promises; if you don't like it, RETURN IT. I've never seen so much bitching and moaning by people before, especially on this forum. If it's such a heartache for you, shut it and return, it's not hard. Additionally, do you know how many other phones do this? I'll give you a hint; almost all.
If they push this now, they'll lose. Hard.
The product just came out. I highly doubt Apple will let itself become beset by a lawsuit, however frivolous, that could potentially turn into a huge PR mess. TBH, I see two things happening: 1) Apple giving free bumpers to everyone, and 2) software/firmware fix.
Which, coincidentally, will happen before this law firm gets enough people to start the suit.
Also, there's another issue why this will fail. No one's forcing you to buy the phone. There's no false advertisement, there's no promises; if you don't like it, RETURN IT. I've never seen so much bitching and moaning by people before, especially on this forum. If it's such a heartache for you, shut it and return, it's not hard. Additionally, do you know how many other phones do this? I'll give you a hint; almost all.
After A FEW FRIGGIN' DAYS. Holy crap, several days of having to hold your phone differently and the crybabies come out of the woodwork. There's no possible way that Apple is not working to address this. There's way too much bad press. You could cry to the lawyers who will make a huge profit while you make virtually nothing...or you could wait. Or buy a case on eBay for $5.
God, our culture deserves to fail if we've become this spoiled.
Having to purchase a band-aid over and above the base price of the item in question to make it work properly defines it as a faulty product. That's what the lawsuit is about.