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Interestingly, most of these non-sense lawsuits come from either California or Florida.
The single thing that would improve the court system is a method to streamline the case issues early in the process to reduce attorney time. The resulting surplus of attorneys would reduce marginal cost and for the case total cost.

It costs at minimum $500,000 to try an adversarial case given current rules. My last one was $900,000 and we won.
 
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"The lawsuit claims that forcing iPhone 4s and 4 users to upgrade to iOS 7 was harmful to them because the software would allegedly crash more and run more slowly"

Allegedly?? Not just allegedly on the iPhone 4...
 



Christina Grace of California has filed a new class-action lawsuit that alleges Apple broke FaceTime in iOS 6 to force users to upgrade to iOS 7, reports AppleInsider. According to the lawsuit, Apple forced users to upgrade so it could avoid payments on a data deal with Akamai.

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The class action found its genesis in internal Apple documents and emails disclosed in the VirnetX patent infringement lawsuit, which eventually ended in Apple paying $302 million after a retrial. Apple used two connection methods when launching FaceTime in 2010: a peer-to-peer method that created a direct connection between two iPhones and a relay method that used data servers from Akamai.

When Apple's peer-to-peer FaceTime technology was found to infringe on VirnetX's patents in 2012, Apple began to shift toward Akamai's servers to handle iPhone-to-iPhone connections. A year later, Apple was paying $50 million in fees to Akamai, according to testimony from the VirnetX trial. The class-action lawsuit, pointing to an internal email titled "Ways to Reduce Relay Usage," alleges that the growing fees were beginning to bother Apple executives.

Apple eventually solved the problem by creating new peer-to-peer technology that would debut in iOS 7. The class-action lawsuit, however, alleges that Apple created a fake bug that caused a digital certificate to prematurely expire on April 16, 2014, breaking FaceTime on iOS 6. Breaking FaceTime on iOS 6, the lawsuit claims, would allow Apple to save money on users who did not upgrade to iOS 7.

At the time, Apple recognized the bug, publishing a support document saying that users who were having FaceTime connectivity problems after April 16, 2014 could update to the latest software to fix the issue. The same support document eventually removed the date "April 16, 2014," according to AppleInsider.

The lawsuit later points to an internal Apple email chain in which an engineering manager mentions that they were looking at the Akamai contract for the upcoming year and understood that Apple "did something" to reduce usage of Akamai's services. Another engineer responded by pointing out iOS 6 leaned a lot on Akamai's services and that Apple "broke iOS 6" and the only way to fix FaceTime was to upgrade to iOS 7.

Apple's developer page pegged iOS 7 adoption at 87 percent on April 7, 2014, nearly 10 days before Apple allegedly broke iOS 6. The lawsuit claims that forcing iPhone 4s and 4 users to upgrade to iOS 7 was harmful to them because the software would allegedly crash more and run more slowly.

The lawsuit is seeking undisclosed damages and to prove Apple violated California's unfair competition law.

Article Link: Lawsuit Alleges Apple Broke FaceTime on iOS 6 to Force iOS 7 Upgrades, Save Money
[doublepost=1486140305][/doublepost]Why does it even matter. Just upgrade.
 
Do you miss this? :D

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To be completely honest, the leather stitching was one of visual elements that made me love the Apple ecosystem in the first place. Those navigation buttons and game center though, look horrendous. The post iOS 7 look is nice, but I wouldn't have minded at all if they kept calendar and find my friends the way it was.
 
Apple's services are NOT free, you pay for them when you buy a device that can use them. The services are part of the whole package and used as incentives for people to buy the expensive hardware.
Maybe, maybe not. It depends on the EULA you agree to when you buy the services. As services tend to come and go I'm betting Apple has specific language for these situations that people already agreed to.
 
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The way I see it, it is not the free upgrade that's the problem. It's not even the fact they pushed people to a free upgrade, per se. It's how they implemented the push and WHY that's shady.
Well, it's still kind of speculation based on what was put in the lawsuit. What we don't know are all the communications that tell a different story that doesn't support the lawsuit that were intentionally not inserted as they would weaken the lawsuit. We're not looking at some investigative journalism here. We're looking at someone who wants a payday - probably even after the statute of limitations. They're only going to characterize the facts in the way that shows support for their lawsuit.
 
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I do care if Apple forces me to update my device and the new software makes my device far worse off, which is precisely what iOS 7.0 did.

For the entire half of a year before 7.1 came out, iOS 7.0 was abysmally slow and buggy. 7.1 improved things but nowhere near to where 6 was.

I don't expect Apple to support the older OS much, but having completely irreversible updates can really burn people.

I did manage to get iOS 6 back on my 4S and the thing runs every bit as well as my iPhone 6 on iOS 9/10, and is even faster at navigating the OS.

I maintain that the iPhone 5 on iOS 6 is the fastest iPhone experience to date.
According to this video, you were right- until now, iOS 10 (on 6s, SE and 7) is the first release since iOS 7 that keeps up with the iPhone 5 on iOS 6. (Note this is beta so final iOS 10 should be a bit faster.)

May want to turn your volume down.
 
"When Apple's peer-to-peer FaceTime technology was found to infringe on VirnetX's patents in 2012"
How do you make peer-to-peer video chat infringe on a patent?! That stuff's been around since the 90s. It's basic. Sounds like a patent trolling case.
You may want to read up them just a wee bit...

"VirnetX (NYSE MKT: VHC) is a company founded by former engineers and executives from Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC) which developed security technology for the Department of Homeland Security and other federal agencies. These resulted in patentable technologies which secure LTE communications. "

They are not just some fly-by-night company. And most certainly not a troll.
 
So what is the problem here? Apple doesn't charge for upgrades. They also stop supporting older software.
They don't charge for iOS upgrades, but they DO charge for new hardware, and how many times have we heard complaints that older phones don't handle the new iOS well? Not saying I agree with the lawsuit, but it's not a huge leap to see this as a ploy to sell more devices.
 
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Interestingly, most of these non-sense lawsuits come from either California or Florida.
The word is "nonsense" and these lawsuits certainly aren't nonsense.
Apple is deliberately crippling hardware through software. This is an act of damaging property. It's essentially the same as writing viruses, malware, ransomware etc. Secret software that's designed to do something that the user never expected or intended to encounter.
 
What a strange lawsuit. I can see forcing a new OS could eventually force someone to have to upgrade their phone as a reason to sue. Over time I find that the new OSs eventually slow older phones to the point where they're practically unusable due to their sluggish nature. Apple is pretty hard core about forcing you to update the software. The OS nags you constantly (at the worst of times even) until you do so and AFAIK, there's no way to turn it off. The new OS may fix bugs, or it may introduce new bugs. I'm in the camp that believes that "if it aint broke, don't fix it". Apple however wants everyone to be at the latest OS for development reasons, and support reasons.

I remember my iPhone 4S being a great phone. A few OSs later, it was beyond sluggish and unusable - having to wait several seconds for it to even respond. Of course, Apple won't let you roll the software back because they don't "sign" that OS anymore.
 
Why should they have to support old OS, especially something as old as iOS6? Just update the damn phone.

Did you even read the complaint?

The issue at the center is not that they didn't want to support the old OS, it's that they didn't want to spend the money to renew the CDN contract....
 
My concern is that Apple created a BUG. CREATED a BUG.

Bugs are bad. No CONSUMER wants to deal with bugs. We want our stuff to "just work". What did Apple do?

They made our stuff not work.

Bad Apple!

Why did they create a bug when most vendors try to stomp them out?

To keep more money to themselves

... and not have to keep paying Akamai so that FaceTime would keep working for people on older devices running older iOS 6 while Apple found a way to move on from that technology in iOS 7.

There could have been a more upfront honest way of going about this but it probably would not have gone over well with customers or Akamai. So they went the sneaky route. I can't comment on the legality of it because I'm not qualified.

But knowing how devious Apple can be by having this set out in front of my face, I'm going to be suspicious if iOS upgrades make my stuff run like utter crap when it's barely a year old. o_O

Bugs happen. Deprecated features happen. Apple deprecated FaceTime on iOS 6 after over 80% of users had switched. Apple can't be expected to support every stinking feature of every version of iOS forever. PLUS FaceTime isn't a 'core feature' of the OS.

An update to Windows 7 broke parts of an older version of Office. Yeah, the clients I had bitched about it, but they upgraded.

I can see their point, but damn, the MAJORITY of users had moved on by then. If they had to support that feature until they reached 100%, they would be paying cash for a long time. Hell, I heard of someone that was pissed because their iPhone 1 wasn't supported any longer. The ORIGINAL iPHONE! Move on people...
 
[doublepost=1486097258][/doublepost]What about the 4th generation iPod touch that couldn't update to iOS 7? FaceTime just stopped working on them?

No. But you could only connect peer-to-peer. (scratches head). Oh, and that is a secure connection without recourse to third parties, so the NSA can't see you!!!! I mean, where's the damage?
 
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