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Take a step back and think about how scary it is when companies - that have more wealth than certain nations and are responsible to their shareholders (==money) not to any form of democratic principles - start to determine information secrecy, internal investigations and yes, security forces.

Welcome to the William Gibson future...
 
Must be that Dinesh having to much Vodka




Apple recently posted a "lengthy" cautionary memo on its internal website that uses aggressive scare tactics to warn employees against leaking details about future products to the media, reports Bloomberg.

In 2017, Apple said it caught 29 leakers and that 12 of those people were arrested. "These people not only lose their jobs, they can face extreme difficulty finding employment elsewhere," the company said in the memo.

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Images of iPhone X components that leaked well ahead of the device's launch
The memo details several instances where sensitive data had been leaked to the media, such as the leaked iOS 11 GM, which divulged details on the iPhone X, and meetings where Craig Federighi detailed delays to planned functionality in iOS 12 to focus on improving existing features. The employees who leaked this info were caught and fired, said Apple.

It also warns Apple employees against befriending members of the press, analysts, and bloggers and "getting played."

Apple told employees that leaking information about an unreleased product can impact sales of current models, lead to fewer sales when the product is released, and give competitors more time to mimic product features. "We want the chance to tell our customers why the product is great, and not have that done poorly by someone else," Apple's Greg Joswiak said in the memo, the full text of which is below, courtesy of Bloomberg:Apple has always been an intensely private and secretive company, but as it has grown, leaks have become harder to contain, both among its own corporate employees and from its supplier partners. In 2012, Apple CEO Tim Cook said Apple was going to "double down on secrecy on products," but each and every year, details on new products manage to leak out ahead of launch.

Article Link: Leaked Apple Memo Warns Employees About Leaking Info to Media
 
The nagging pop ups were started by Jobs. This really hasn’t changed substantially since I can remember from iOS 6. So it’s a forstall thing. But that’s quite the leap you tried to make there. A to the point memo from management equates to a “strong arm” tactic to the users? I don’t think so.
The nagging popups that cannot be permanently canceled are new (from a couple of years ago or so). And yes, I consider it "strong arm" that you just are not allowed to keep your iOS version unless you use non-official hacks (BTW, this is only an example). Everything Apple is doing for the last 4 years is "strong arm".
 
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Scare tactics. Will stop the rookie looking for $5k to not bother with leaking something but not the guys who do it properly.

In fact,will make it more lucrative for leakers who do it confidentially. For the bigger plans, this isn’t meant for tech blogs to have their egos pumped by being be first to break news, its analysts looking to play big money games with Apple stock.

Be interesting to see the tech blogs and bloggers going forward. You could see the glee of being on Apples side oozing out of some of them, especially with this new iPad being billed as well as it is, for the addition of pencil support and ignoring it was meant (and failed) to make inroads into the education market. Part of this glee is the self satisfaction that they knew some plans and had some insiders so that they felt they knew more then the general public, and could fawn over Apple as a result, and more to the company in reviews, to maintain relationships within Apple.

Now, who knows. If leaks are a thing of the past to the ones that aren’t willing to pay the high risk game (and really,do the bloggers who get info get punished), will the relationship with Apple sour, or will it get even more pathetic, with the tech companies really making sure that they don’t get shunned by Apple if they leave bad reviews?

And there is an element of hypocrisy here too. Apple wants positive PR. They think they control the press and bloggers with the way they reward companies who leave positive reviews through getting testing units of next device early. They also reward by floating product ideas out through back channels months in advance to gauge press expert reaction, that the public never knows about. They’ll call it R and D, but really it’s a leak by any other name. Look at the Gold IPx.

Will see what Apple’s resident analyst whom studies the supply (yeah right, he’s on Apple pr payroll) does going forward.

Oh yes, we can't have leaks building hype, that would be bad..

This seems more like "a shot across the bow" of unofficial, unapproved "leakers."

Let's be real--Apple does intentionally leak some things. Two examples are when Apple was about to transition from PPC to Intel and now when Apple is preparing to transition to ARM. The discussions and debates are remarkably similar and Apple was wise to vent the reaction prior to the official announcement (I expect the announcement at WWDC this year.)


I maintain that most of Apple’s user base are happy with what they are doing, and it’s mainly a small group of extremely vocal individuals who are making all the noise about Apple supposedly losing their way.

Maybe their criticism is valid; maybe it’s just the fevered ranting of a bunch of old-timers who have problems letting go of the past. Either way, they are a niche group who don’t get to speak, much less represent the majority of Apple customers, as entitled as they may feel simply they are self-proclaimed “Pro users”.

They have basically criticised every single thing Apple has done. iPad Pro. Apple Pencil. AirPods. Apple Watch. And you know what? I love them all. They have some extremely well. Are extremely popular. And the forums basically bashed them since day one.

Yes, I am one customer who has been extremely happy with Apple’s focus on iOS. And I have nothing against Apple’s current product roadmap. However, I do have someone against people who would use this as an excuse to anchor criticism and pollute this forum with their vitriol and their hatred.

It’s not helpful, it’s not constructive, and it simply makes the whole mood that much more toxic while also drowning out the legitimate voices who do wish to have a civil discussion.

And it’s clear this has zero signs of abating, because the haters are always going to hate.

They are the ones who have their way. Not Apple.

Please don't set up straw man arguments. There are those of us "old timers" who criticize Apple but who also appreciate and use iOS products just as do you.

Please offer examples of "vitriol and hatred" that are more than criticisms or disagreements with questionable decisions, many of which are already discussed on other non-Mac web forums.
 
Please offer examples of "vitriol and hatred" that are more than criticisms or disagreements with questionable decisions, many of which are already discussed on other non-Mac web forums.
Just look at any new thread that pops up here. More than 80% of comments are invariably people making snide comments and taking pot-shots at any perceived misstep by Apple, and which add virtually nothing to the discussion at hand.

The latest example would be the thread on the reported lacklustre sales of the homepod. The first few hundred commands are filled with people practically gloating about how the homepod is supposedly failing, while at the same time expressing their frustration and disappointment over the lack of new Mac products (ie: Mac Pro, Mac mini, apple router and monitors). And scattered throughout will be comments about how Apple has lost its way and how Tim Cook needs to be fired. None of which have anything to do with the current discussion, and is little more than the haters venting their unhappiness over the current direction that Apple is headed.

And the problem is that when you think about it, a lot of this is pretty unsubstantiated. Anyone with an iota of critical thinking skills would have realised that Slice Analytics essentially gets its data by scanning the receipts of users who opt into their service on a wholly voluntary basis, which means that your sample size is already questionable to begin with. Coupled with the fact that a reduction in orders with one company doesn't necessarily mean much if you don't know whether Apple is simply shifting orders from one manufacturer to another, plus Mark Gurman's increasingly unreliable track record when it comes to Apple-related scoops, and you have an article of dubious origin.

In short, there are a lot of things we don't know or really need to question more, but people are all to eager to brandish their pitchforks and hop on to the Apple-hate train, so I guess facts (or the lack thereof) don't really matter these days. Hate begets hate, resulting in one massive echo chamber which makes any attempt at constructive debate impossible.

By the time I came in, there were already more than 300 comments at the time, and I know a lost cause when I see one.

And the sad truth is that in a rush to be the first to comment, that doesn't really leave much time for reflection and deep thinking, and the lack of quality in the initial deluge of comments really shows.

Just open your eyes and see.
 
We all love Apple products. However, this behavior is awful. Arrested for leaking relatively pointless information? Feels fascist.

Doing something you're expressly advised against, and even forbidden from doing when signing an NDA that no-one forced you to sign when you started to work for a company no one forced you to work at? Feels idiotic and frankly, self-destructive considering the possible fallout your actions can cause.
 
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If I got this memo, it would just make me a bit sadder to be working at Apple. It's not in its hey-day at the moment, and it's obviously worried about the wrong things if this is given so much emphasis.

I don't work at Apple. But in my job, one general job duty is not to do anything hurting the company (doesn't even need to be in my contract) which excludes any leaks. Second, in my contract it says that I must not tell any secrets. Don't remember the details, but I know it's a lot better to read my contract before saying anything. Third, every time I and my colleagues learn something secret, we are told that this needs to stay confidential. There's nothing in this memo that isn't absolutely normal for any software company. And nothing I would be worried or saddened about.
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“12 of those people were arrested” … are you serious, arrested, so you can be arrested by law enforcement for divulging Apple secrets. This is scary, but I remember a few years ago when an Apple employee misplaced a beta-test iPhone (I think he left it in a bar) and Apple convinced local law enforcement to “raid” a home in Silicone Valley to recover the phone. If I misplace my iPhone, can I get police to raid someone’s home to retrieve it.

Well, yes, leaking trade secrets is a criminal offence in the USA. You can go to jail for it.

The case you are talking about was pure and simple theft. Someone found a lost phone. When you find a lost phone in California, there are two legal things you can do: Leave it where it is, or pick it up and try to find the owner. This guy tried to sell it for thousands. Theft, so the cops came to his home with a search warrant, as you would expect. And yes, if you misplace your iPhone and someone picks it up, that's theft. Now yours is an ordinary iPhone worth about $1,000 at most, the one in question was supposed to fetch $20,000. That's a difference.

We all love Apple products. However, this behavior is awful. Arrested for leaking relatively pointless information? Feels fascist.
If spreading some "relatively pointless information" damages a marketing campaign, and for example iPhone X sales are reduced by 0.01% as a result, that's millions in damages.
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Scare tactics. Will stop the rookie looking for $5k to not bother with leaking something but not the guys who do it properly.

In fact,will make it more lucrative for leakers who do it confidentially. For the bigger plans, this isn’t meant for tech blogs to have their egos pumped by being be first to break news, its analysts looking to play big money games with Apple stock.
Money leaves traces. And leaking for money makes it a lot more likely that you end up in jail.
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Imagine you’re the unfortunate soul who loses his job over leaking a memo about leaking.
Why "unfortunate"? More like "bloody idiot".
 
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A common thing to do to catch leakers is to make messages like this unique by varying spacing, words, or punctuation so that the recipient can be identified. I wonder if Apple will be catching a leaker who leaked the warning about leaking.
Canary trap.
 
Just look at any new thread that pops up here. More than 80% of comments are invariably people making snide comments and taking pot-shots at any perceived misstep by Apple, and which add virtually nothing to the discussion at hand.

The latest example would be the thread on the reported lacklustre sales of the homepod. The first few hundred commands are filled with people practically gloating about how the homepod is supposedly failing, while at the same time expressing their frustration and disappointment over the lack of new Mac products (ie: Mac Pro, Mac mini, apple router and monitors). And scattered throughout will be comments about how Apple has lost its way and how Tim Cook needs to be fired. None of which have anything to do with the current discussion, and is little more than the haters venting their unhappiness over the current direction that Apple is headed.

And the problem is that when you think about it, a lot of this is pretty unsubstantiated. Anyone with an iota of critical thinking skills would have realised that Slice Analytics essentially gets its data by scanning the receipts of users who opt into their service on a wholly voluntary basis, which means that your sample size is already questionable to begin with. Coupled with the fact that a reduction in orders with one company doesn't necessarily mean much if you don't know whether Apple is simply shifting orders from one manufacturer to another, plus Mark Gurman's increasingly unreliable track record when it comes to Apple-related scoops, and you have an article of dubious origin.

In short, there are a lot of things we don't know or really need to question more, but people are all to eager to brandish their pitchforks and hop on to the Apple-hate train, so I guess facts (or the lack thereof) don't really matter these days. Hate begets hate, resulting in one massive echo chamber which makes any attempt at constructive debate impossible.

By the time I came in, there were already more than 300 comments at the time, and I know a lost cause when I see one.

And the sad truth is that in a rush to be the first to comment, that doesn't really leave much time for reflection and deep thinking, and the lack of quality in the initial deluge of comments really shows.

Just open your eyes and see.

That helps me understand where you are coming from, thank you.

I agree with most of what you say and I do tire of the constant comparisons between Tim Cook and Steve Jobs or the endless speculation about what SJ would or would not have done. I just tend to ignore those posts.

Two cautions I would add regarding your post:

First, while I think some people do just like to tear down others, be it Cook, Schiller, Apple as a whole, etc., there are some criticisms which Apple does deserve. I for one would like to see updated specs for most of Apple's Macs (obviously not the iMac Pro). Letting the Mac line languish gives me reason for concern. I will need a new laptop soon, but I need to know if I spend over $2k on a Mac that I am going to have support for the next 3-5 years. A transition to ARM does not align with me. I was around for the Intel transition and witnessed what happened. I don't plan to be in the crowd who loses support (including software updates) shortly after making a large investment, as happened to PPC users and later Core Duo (non-64 bit) users.

Second, while I understand how the topics tend to go off track, I also understand how some (including myself) can see how a trend in one product line, or even several product lines, might indicate both corporate direction and corporate challenges. At least some members here are genuinely concerned about Apple's direction, while others are venting out of frustration (perhaps some Mac Pro or Mac Mini users who feel abandoned). For me, I want to see Apple succeed, but like many others, I feel like Apple is changing course and there may no longer be a place for me. I do understand how this becomes monotonous and distracting, but Apple would help the community here if it offered at least a little more transparency and a roadmap for its users; otherwise, the feelings many express, even inappropriately, will only continue to fester.

Nonetheless, good points. We do need more critical thinking here.
 
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Take a step back and think about how scary it is when companies - that have more wealth than certain nations and are responsible to their shareholders (==money) not to any form of democratic principles - start to determine information secrecy, internal investigations and yes, security forces.

Welcome to the William Gibson future...

There is nothing Gibsonesque about this. These people were arrested not due to any proprietary legal twilight zone some corporation has enveloped its employees in. Those people violated existing laws that carry very real punitive and restorative consequences. No need to read anything more into it.
 
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I don't know whether to be happy or sad about it. On one hand, yes, we absolutely need to get back to the rock-solid iOS releases of yore. On the other hand, I really, really want to see what they're going to do to the homescreen.

Give me themeing, even if it's controlled by the App Store.
Give me a scrolling background ala Android.
Give me the ability to place my icons where I'd like.

Give me those three things, and I'll never look at a robotphone again.
Or you can just get an Android ‍♂️
 
And the problem is that when you think about it, a lot of this is pretty unsubstantiated. Anyone with an iota of critical thinking skills would have realised that Slice Analytics essentially gets its data by scanning the receipts of users who opt into their service on a wholly voluntary basis, which means that your sample size is already questionable to begin with. Coupled with the fact that a reduction in orders with one company doesn't necessarily mean much if you don't know whether Apple is simply shifting orders from one manufacturer to another, plus Mark Gurman's increasingly unreliable track record when it comes to Apple-related scoops, and you have an article of dubious origin.

Although I read your viewpoints and understand your angle, I disagree with your reasoning here. You say that critical thinking skills come into play here, but you've historically demonstrated that you are not in a neutral corner in these arguments, and tend to be very biased for Apple without reason.

Whether or not you trust your media sources, we should all use critical thinking and observe the world around us at a high level. This is more pragmatic than to read online news and trying to figure out if there is truth or not. Perhaps it just so happens in my network, people had voiced the same issues (siri, overpriced, what do i use this for, no spotify, etc) before those articles even came up.

If you feel that the Apple ecosystem is perfect right now and that there are no real issues, then there isn't much more to say about this.
 
Although I read your viewpoints and understand your angle, I disagree with your reasoning here. You say that critical thinking skills come into play here, but you've historically demonstrated that you are not in a neutral corner in these arguments, and tend to be very biased for Apple without reason.

Whether or not you trust your media sources, we should all use critical thinking and observe the world around us at a high level. This is more pragmatic than to read online news and trying to figure out if there is truth or not. Perhaps it just so happens in my network, people had voiced the same issues (siri, overpriced, what do i use this for, no spotify, etc) before those articles even came up.

If you feel that the Apple ecosystem is perfect right now and that there are no real issues, then there isn't much more to say about this.
Apple is not perfect nor is it the disaster portrayed here at times.
 
This Internal memo was leaked less than 10 minutes after it was sent ! Oh well Apple will just have to try harder at security
 
The irony of this leak

Dear Apple,

Don't you think it's now time to upgrade both your email servers as well as the Mail app (OSX/iOS together)?
Setup Read receipts and forwarding tracking at the server level (similar to what Lotus Notes had)
Heck setup MDM profile that enables on-premises time-in-flight disabling of camera when in close proximity to Mac's, heck enable this to the Mac assigned to the user, disable non-VPN email access.

it's a start.
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Well these leaks are the life blood of Mac-rumors forum. :D:apple:
And a more funny thing is that this memo warning employees has leaked
to us too!! Huh :apple:?

Though on a serious note i too would want to see products when they are announced in Apple Events
instead of knowing about them months or even yrs in advance. I really like unveiling of the products for the first time. And getting all our guesses incorrect/shattered.

Indeed and agreed!

I too long for the impact of a great unveil from Apple during WWDC or similar events:
Titanium PowerBook
PowerMac G5
iPhone (2007, 2013)

The leaks have really hurt Apple on both sides:
Lack luster details of future products have made the company look like bafoons in terms of lacking technological leaps/bounds.
Acute details leaked months ahead gave the competition more than enough time to COPY designs, as well as label Apple's product/tech choices as fools:

I present the iPhone X.
The notch copied in less than 4 months in production, presentation, and official launches by Android competitors.
FaceID mocked by almost all Android competitors and faithful reviewers on the web (Droid-Life, AndroidCentral, TheVerge, Engadget, and even MKD).

If Apple wants to control the leaks ... Apple NEEDS to play the game and deal their own hand:

Leak BS leaks that are slightly plausable through employees, office glimps of fake leaks, or testing of non directional product testing. Once the leaks get out ... Apple can know whom or which group is doing it and then sort of (like an office surprise birthday party) setup users to present leaks at opportune time and bingo you've narrowed down the leaks.

Once that happens the leaking business and those internally or partnered that are doing the looks all look like ass-hats! this could eventually even through off the great ... initial professional leaker of all time Evan Blass! This guy has been around since the early S60 Days and cut his teeth back then!
 
Take a step back and think about how scary it is when companies - that have more wealth than certain nations and are responsible to their shareholders (==money) not to any form of democratic principles - start to determine information secrecy, internal investigations and yes, security forces.

Welcome to the William Gibson future...

Hyperbole much? “How scary” ? Come on people . . .

1: All large corporations have their own security. Apple’s security isn’t exactly “a force”. You make it sound like an armed militia taking employees out to a courtyard for execution. Employees violated their contracts and the law. Apple Security handed that over to the local law enforcement (in addition to the appropriate action of firing).

2: “not to any form of democratic principles” ? Apple responds fully; to more than one democracy. The Board of Directors literally vote, the Shareholders essentially vote and the consumers vote as well - and their voice is ultimately the most influential, and heard by Apple as it is in any large corporation. Just ask Starbucks about the influence of their customers regarding security and the recent arrest of 2 patrons. Or United Airlines when the dragged of a customer last year. The businesses can’t operate (certainly not successfully) in a vacuum.
 
The end result of a closed, secretive design process is the giant spaceship campus where employees run into glass walls and have zero productivity. Note the projects like Mac Pro that stand still for years even though there are obviously desks for employees to pump out projects. But are these desks controllable and politically sanctioned...
 
Although I read your viewpoints and understand your angle, I disagree with your reasoning here. You say that critical thinking skills come into play here, but you've historically demonstrated that you are not in a neutral corner in these arguments, and tend to be very biased for Apple without reason.

Whether or not you trust your media sources, we should all use critical thinking and observe the world around us at a high level. This is more pragmatic than to read online news and trying to figure out if there is truth or not. Perhaps it just so happens in my network, people had voiced the same issues (siri, overpriced, what do i use this for, no spotify, etc) before those articles even came up.

If you feel that the Apple ecosystem is perfect right now and that there are no real issues, then there isn't much more to say about this.
I acknowledge that I can be pretty biased at times.

That said, I have never claimed that Apple was perfect, just that the company isn't run by idiots, and I do wish the critics here could give them a little more credit. Yes, there are flaws, but at the same time, do you really need to latch onto each and every misstep, however minor, and hold it up as evidence that Apple is doomed?

The main issue I see here is that people tend to only see the very superficial aspect of things, and it naturally limits their ability to analyse why Apple might be doing certain things the way they do. For example, when Face ID was released, the general consensus is that Android had face-recognition first. There was virtually no attempt at understanding Apple's take on this (which by the way, happens to be a miniaturised Kinect that is clearly capable of doing much more than simply scanning your face, such as tracking facial movements and gestures, which in turn raises the potential of being able to control your phone via alternative methods). Everywhere I go, it's about who did it first, and not about how Apple has done it differently, or the potential it holds (think gesture-less controls and AR glasses).

Here's a little tip - Apple always has a long-term plan, and they never just introduce technology for technology's sake. Maybe spend a little bit more time mulling over why Apple might be choosing to do something a certain way, rather than rushing to be the first to bash them?
 
The main issue I see here is that people tend to only see the very superficial aspect of things, and it naturally limits their ability to analyse why Apple might be doing certain things the way they do. For example, when Face ID was released, the general consensus is that Android had face-recognition first. There was virtually no attempt at understanding Apple's take on this (which by the way, happens to be a miniaturised Kinect that is clearly capable of doing much more than simply scanning your face, such as tracking facial movements and gestures, which in turn raises the potential of being able to control your phone via alternative methods). Everywhere I go, it's about who did it first, and not about how Apple has done it differently, or the potential it holds (think gesture-less controls and AR glasses).

That's interesting. Everywhere I go (i.e. talking to people outside and not ONLY on these forums) it's NOT like that. That's my point.

Apple is infamous for taking existing features and making them better. They've always done this, and very few are surprised by this. Again, most of people's thoughts are "finally" as oppose to "wow Apple is really leading the charge". Granted, the "finally" assessment happens because it takes Apple a while to get a clearer picture on how and where they want to bring the technology.

Here's a little tip - Apple always has a long-term plan, and they never just introduce technology for technology's sake. Maybe spend a little bit more time mulling over why Apple might be choosing to do something a certain way, rather than rushing to be the first to bash them?

I would scratch the word "Apple" and use any direct competitor. Amazon always has a long-term plan, and so does Google.

You don't need to spend a lot of time mulling over why Apple did certain things a certain way when it's clear as day why they do certain things.

Case in point let's use the recent HomePod as an example. Many here say it's first and foremost a speaker and that Apple doesn't want to use Siri as a major selling point. Well Apple HP commercials say something very different right? "Hey Siri play me something". So that contradicts any argument that Siri is not a major selling point for the HomePod. Could they sell the HomePod strictly on beam-forming tech? It's not a very strong statement in most cases. Was this something that the public had been asking for? The second is the support for only Apple Music. It's clear they want a tight lock on their ecosystem and what 3rd party services are involved for many historical reasons.

I'm not sure what there is to mull about here?

Given that you have stated in prior posts you 100% trust Apple in determining what you don't know, I suppose mulling or critical thinking makes sense for you here. I just think we don't need to exert that much effort in seeing what's going on because actions speak louder than words.

I personally think the problems they are solving are not actual problems that many people have, which is why you are seeing more negativity. Shareholders are happy though, for now.
 
Well, maybe, and maybe not.

I mean, clearly, companies have a right to keep intellectual property secret and employees can be legally bound not to leak this stuff.

But it's also just a fact that Apple is known, more than probably 99% of companies, to rely on keeping everything possible a big secret, no matter how small. That was because of the Steve Jobs marketing style of parceling out the info in "info packets" at keynote speeches or scheduled press release events.

People would stop everything they were doing at work just to watch the live broadcast, every time he put on his "dog and pony show" to announce all of the latest things Apple had been working on. Apple got MASSIVE amounts of free publicity and advertising mileage out of those events -- since they'd always become headline news in days/weeks that followed.

Today's Apple is a little bit different. It's been a long time now since it participated in any big expos, and keynotes without "The Steve" just aren't quite the same. That's why I think all the secrecy starts seeming a bit "over the top", even to people working there -- and more things get leaked out.

Especially for larger, business customers -- knowing a little bit about what's to come is an important part of decision-making. You have to plan ahead with budgeting and make I.T. purchasing decisions that won't leave you stranded with obsolete gear before your Finance department feels you've owned it long enough to fully depreciate it. All the "It's a big secret!" stuff doesn't play well in that environment.


Joswiak is right. Why jeopardize your job/career that ultimately has a negative impact on the company and can result in the employee being terminated for being defiant and disloyal. That employee would likely never have a career in the tech sector ever again given their Malicious actions.
 
Well, now we know for certain that iOS 12 will only be small feature upgrades and performance improvements. I'm fine with that as long as someone is working on improving Siri beyond new jokes. Otherwise it's not like iOS is really lacking—except in refinement.

One thing that still pisses me off is how difficult it is to select text sometimes. Why is this such an issue? I'll go to select something and let go and it only selects everything above what I had selected. I'll try again and it will cut what I selected in half. I try again and it will select the word after what I selected. I try again and flys out to select the entire block of text. I try to deselect and it won't. A few tries later it deselects. Finally I get a decent selection but it's missing the end word. I slowly try to expand the selection and it flys out and selects the whole chunk of text again. Eventually I get about 80% of the text selected and that's good enough, I just remember the last few words and type the rest. It's not like it happens every day but when it does happen it's annoying as hell! Not sure why something so simple can be a problem in 2018. If iOS 12 fixed this, a few instabilities issues and had a dark mode, that's all I want.
I thought I was just clumsy and have 'fat' fingers! It's beyond frustrating just trying to cut and paste one sentence on an iphone. That's where I'm usually responding to an email or on a blog and want to paste something quickly -- which is never quick because it is so difficult to select what I want. You perfectly described my experience!
 
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