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Such speed (if true)

IMO the M2 laptops will feel a bit snappier, and a memory-loaded BTO would probably suit 99% of my computer usage needs.

Imagine what shifting to the 3nm node will do.
 
My daughter needs a new MacBook Air to replace her struggling Intel model. And since she’s already got a case that fits the wedge-shaped ones, I guess I’ll have to give her my M1 MBA and I’ll just have to replace it with an M2 MBA for myself.

Hate when that happens. 😁
Parental privileges.
 
It is a nice improvement and the chip was probably ready for months, most likely issues with the supply stuff. I do hope for a much bigger gain with M3 as Intel’s next step will be big too.
I *highly* doubt it. Intel's only break came from having their P and E core CPUs be coded for enhancements by Microsoft and then came AMD without that and still walloped Intel.
 
It looks like the majority of the target audience for Airs are better off with the original Air. They won’t benefit much from the M2 since single core performance is what really matters for them, and that’s only 12% faster, but you need at least a 20% increase to see a real world difference.
Yes, they won't benefit much from the improved CPU, as the M1 is already more than sufficient for the vast majority of non-pro use cases.

But I respectfully disagree that they'll be better off with the M1 Air. I think they'll choose the new MBA for the smaller bezels, brighter display, better speakers, better webcam, and mag safe charging. (Even if people don't care about magsafe, they may appreciate that it frees up a USB-C port).

Some won't find these upgrades worth the $200 or so price premium, so they can get the M1 Air and they will be well-served by it. Even two years later, it's still a fantastic machine.
 
Just reduce power consumption if you assume a node reduction and nothing else.
Power consumption and performance... and of course there will be "something else".
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And don't get me wrong - I hope Intel hits it out of the park too. I don't want Apple to get comfortable.

correction - the text of the article noted that customers could achieve those gains if they focused on one or the other. We'll have to wait and see what Apple comes up with.
 
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However, the point of going to smaller node count is to add more transistors to increase number crunching. Hence, that sole benefit goes out the window.
i know.since im waiting for a 15" (perhaps with no hope you might say) ,i may benefit from both a performance boost ,as well as a bigger battery ,so yeah .

also ,if i got it right,n3 could bring BIG improvements,so we might see a huge perf boost,as well as a modest to nice efficiency gain ,who knows
 
Power consumption and performance... and of course there will be "something else".
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And don't get me wrong - I hope Intel hits it out of the park too. I don't want Apple to get comfortable.

It's "or" and not "and".

https://www.anandtech.com/show/1602...technology-details-full-node-scaling-for-2h22
"Compared to it’s N5 node, N3 promises to improve performance by 10-15% at the same power levels, or reduce power by 25-30% at the same transistor speeds."
 
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Seems like the gains are largely (9% of the 11.6%) GHz related though? That’s great, but suggests little structural improvement in the cores themselves? I ask as it would indicate that further improvements would rely on the 3 nm process to manage power consumption?
Yeah my thoughts too. After almost two years all they did was increase clock speed to their cores for a minor improvement. N5P allowed them to do that within the same power envelope. So really nothing to brag about. Hopefully their next cores will actually improve IPC. They might be making bigger grounds on graphics and neural but they still should focus on their cores.
 
Battery life will be worse than the M1. You will see equal on Apple's webpage due to the fact that Apple increased the battery size to make up for the loss.

Why? The M2 is more power hungry already and that's according to Apple's own keynote graphs.
Fair enough!
 
Could someone explain to me what are the real world benefits of the performance gains here? Does it let you go home and cook dinner earlier, meet with friends at kareoke on time, spend more quality time with family?

How is it gonna help someone who only benchmarks Apple hardware and unbox products for a 7 to 10 minute video?

Will this improve the performance of typing in Microsoft Word, will watching Apple TV+ be any better?

Are there any benefits to an app developer who already has a feature rich app; 95% of the features a user is not using anyway?

Or is it just a nice thing we can say we have like someone with a Ferrari but never drives it at full speed and only goes to Target and on Saturdays?
 
Tbh it’s a little disappointing. There was so much hype for the m1 that I was expecting to be blown away with the next generation. The m2 is just meh in comparison.
 
Could someone explain to me what are the real world benefits of the performance gains here? Does it let you go home and cook dinner earlier, meet with friends at kareoke on time, spend more quality time with family?

How is it gonna help someone who only benchmarks Apple hardware and unbox products for a 7 to 10 minute video?

Will this improve the performance of typing in Microsoft Word, will watching Apple TV+ be any better?

Are there any benefits to an app developer who already has a feature rich app; 95% of the features a user is not using anyway?

Or is it just a nice thing we can say we have like someone with a Ferrari but never drives it at full speed and only goes to Target and on Saturdays?
Well, the architecture improvements will mean to people who do heavy workloads on these CPUs as render times will be reduced and more workflow can be accomplished quicker. As per the average person, like you stated, the performance of the M1 will more than suffice.
 
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Tbh it’s a little disappointing. There was so much hype for the m1 that I was expecting to be blown away with the next generation. The m2 is just meh in comparison.
Its disappointing to absolutely no one. You have no idea what you're talking about. Until they move to the next fab process in 2023, getting any kind of further gains out of the 5nm process is amazing, let alone a 20% bump.
 


Apple's new M2 chip is up to 20 percent faster than the M1 chip when it comes to multi-core performance, according to leaked M2 benchmarks from the upcoming 13-inch MacBook Pro that were discovered on Geekbench today.

M2-MacBook-Air-2022-Feature0014.jpg

The M2, which runs at 3.49GHz compared to 3.2GHz for the M1, earned a single-core score of 1919, which is roughly 12 percent faster than the 1707 single-core score of the M1 13-inch MacBook Pro. The M2 earned a multi-core score of 8928, up about 20 percent from the 7419 score of the M1 model.

Apple has said that the M2 chip is up to 18 percent faster than the M1, so the Geekbench 5 test is right in line with Apple's claims.


As for the Metal benchmark, the M2 chip scored 30627, a notable improvement over the 21001 score earned by the M1. The M2 chip offers up to a 10-core GPU, compared to the 8-core maximum of the M1.

The M2 chip is available in the new 2022 MacBook Air and 13-inch MacBook Pro. Apple has not provided information on when the MacBook Air will launch, but the new MacBook Pro will be available for pre-order starting Friday, June 17.

Article Link: Leaked Benchmarks Confirm M2 Chip is Up to 20% Faster Than M1


Apple's new M2 chip is up to 20 percent faster than the M1 chip when it comes to multi-core performance, according to leaked M2 benchmarks from the upcoming 13-inch MacBook Pro that were discovered on Geekbench today.

M2-MacBook-Air-2022-Feature0014.jpg

The M2, which runs at 3.49GHz compared to 3.2GHz for the M1, earned a single-core score of 1919, which is roughly 12 percent faster than the 1707 single-core score of the M1 13-inch MacBook Pro. The M2 earned a multi-core score of 8928, up about 20 percent from the 7419 score of the M1 model.

Apple has said that the M2 chip is up to 18 percent faster than the M1, so the Geekbench 5 test is right in line with Apple's claims.


As for the Metal benchmark, the M2 chip scored 30627, a notable improvement over the 21001 score earned by the M1. The M2 chip offers up to a 10-core GPU, compared to the 8-core maximum of the M1.

The M2 chip is available in the new 2022 MacBook Air and 13-inch MacBook Pro. Apple has not provided information on when the MacBook Air will launch, but the new MacBook Pro will be available for pre-order starting Friday, June 17.

Article Link: Leaked Benchmarks Confirm M2 Chip is Up to 20% Faster Than M1
We're getting so close to a 2000 single core score, this is really impressive. Every iteration Pro, Max, Ultra always improves a bit on the single core numbers, We're in for a treat when they release the rest of the range.
 
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