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Its disappointing to absolutely no one. You have no idea what you're talking about. Until they move to the next fab process in 2023, getting any kind of further gains out of the 5nm process is amazing, let alone a 20% bump.
Wrong, they increased efficiency based on architecture alone which is tied to the A14 and A15 increase. Also, that 20% bump came at the expense of power consumption. I wouldn't be celebrating.
 
It looks like the majority of the target audience for Airs are better off with the original Air.
I think the market for the MacBook Air broadened by a significant measure when it became a fanless laptop that outperformed the previous generation’s top-end MacBook Pro. Before the M1 I was only interested in MacBook Pro, and the 13” models were always too much of a compromise.

The M1 Air = the best laptop experience I’ve ever had. A cool and quiet little beast.
 
It looks like the majority of the target audience for Airs are better off with the original Air. They won’t benefit much from the M2 since single core performance is what really matters for them, and that’s only 12% faster, but you need at least a 20% increase to see a real world difference.

Huh? The M2 Air has better performance and has much nicer computer hardware (webcam, speakers, display). I wouldn't recommend for anyone to buy the M1 Air at this point and if its a budget issue, do some Doordashing or something to get the extra $200 for the M2 version.
 
I think the big picture story is, people should no longer be expecting huge jumps and leaps.

N5-N5P-N4-N3-N3E

These might look big in past years, but they are considered nodelets today.

With N3, you're looking at 5-10% clock jump compared to M2. Scaling factors are slowing down, which means limited increase in transistor count. With M3, we'll probably see another M2 style increase, with slightly more.

Remember how A7 had 1 billion transistors? A8 had 2 billion. Those days of doubling are long over.
 
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This is what I was afraid of. iOS A series had a lot of inprovement mainly because the inprovement in size, and now that’s been proven.

Apple Silicon still has some room for inprovements besides the manufacture size vs X86 because the thermal and power consumption, but is no magic as M2 has prove.

A bit disappointing, I was hoping to be wrong.

A 10-12% inprovement in single core is what Intel has been doing for years

Anyway, having my MS rendering 24/7 with full CPU and GPU at 28º celsius room temperature with fans at minimun and max sensor at 70º is a kind of magic
 
The future is bright for apple silicon.
A 20% increase with each generation is quite amazing!
This makes me even more excited for the M3 chips.
I have gotten an M1 Ultra, therefore I'll skip the M2 Ultra in favour of the M3 Ultra.
 
Could someone explain to me what are the real world benefits of the performance gains here? Does it let you go home and cook dinner earlier, meet with friends at kareoke on time, spend more quality time with family?

How is it gonna help someone who only benchmarks Apple hardware and unbox products for a 7 to 10 minute video?

Will this improve the performance of typing in Microsoft Word, will watching Apple TV+ be any better?

Are there any benefits to an app developer who already has a feature rich app; 95% of the features a user is not using anyway?

Or is it just a nice thing we can say we have like someone with a Ferrari but never drives it at full speed and only goes to Target and on Saturdays?
My opinion is that an upgrade to a current generation from an immediately previous generation is generally not worth it and will not let you go home from work earlier. Most of us don't upgrade our phones and computers every year for this exact reason; it's not worth it. In the case of the M1 --> M2 upgrade, unless the new video encoders are useful to you, you won't see a noticeable improvement in running your everyday tasks, at least with respect to speed. The new M2 Macbook Airs might be worth an upgrade for some people because of the improved screen and webcam.

I don't think Apple targets its new computer releases at people who own the current generation, but rather at people who might have computers that are many generations old. By releasing incremental upgrades every year or two, the incremental improvements begin to add up over the years and will at some point become worthy of a decision to upgrade. This will let you go home earlier or finish a project faster.
 
I think the big picture story is, people should no longer be expecting huge jumps and leaps.

N5-N5P-N4-N3-N3E

These might look big in past years, but they are considered nodelets today.

With N3, you're looking at 5-10% clock jump compared to M2. Scaling factors are slowing down, which means limited increase in transistor count. With M3, we'll probably see another M2 style increase, with slightly more.

Remember how A7 had 1 billion transistors? A8 had 2 billion. Those days of doubling are long over.
Exactly, the time when Moore's Law was held to the highest standard is long gone as now transistors are approaching the atomic size. You can't go below an atom in size.
 
I am not that impressed. The die is way larger which gives way more transistors, the clock speed is faster but that basically means the architecture is not improved on spur of using a newer core version. They could likely overclock an m1 in the MacBook Pro with fan and get the same results
 
This is what I was afraid of. iOS A series had a lot of inprovement mainly because the inprovement in size, and now that’s been proven.

Apple Silicon still has some room for inprovements besides the manufacture size vs X86 because the thermal and power consumption, but is no magic as M2 has prove.

A bit disappointing, I was hoping to be wrong.

A 10-12% inprovement in single core is what Intel has been doing for years

Anyway, having my MS rendering 24/7 with full CPU and GPU at 28º celsius room temperature with fans at minimun and max sensor at 70º is a kind of magic

Intel hasn't been doing even 10% a year in some time. Apple just did 12% in 15 months without a new process, just from internal design improvements. And they piled on a bunch more multicore and GPU performance at close to the same power usage and price point.
 
I am not that impressed. The die is way larger which gives way more transistors, the clock speed is faster but that basically means the architecture is not improved on spur of using a newer core version. They could likely overclock an m1 in the MacBook Pro with fan and get the same results

They couldn't actually because power usage would increase substantially, and it wouldn't be anywhere near the multicore or GPU performance.
 
Yes, these new M2 MacBooks could have worse battery life under load than the M1 MacBooks.
M2 MacBook Air should throttle quite a bit, especially under GPU load.
Makes a lot of sense, but also exactly what we see with the current M1 Air/Pro, where there's plenty of real world testing and benchmarking to see the (usually slight) difference due to active cooling available in the Pro.
 
I *highly* doubt it. Intel's only break came from having their P and E core CPUs be coded for enhancements by Microsoft and then came AMD without that and still walloped Intel.
True it probably be other two years if you are very lucky for Intel to be down to 5nm by that time and well Apple will probably be at 1nm.
 
I don't think it is powerful enough to replace the M1 MacBook Air unless you need more memory but it is definitely a step above if you are in the market, especially if you are still using Intel. I like that Apple is moving forward, I remember a time rather recently that the Mac seemed dead.
 
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Intel hasn't been doing even 10% a year in some time. Apple just did 12% in 15 months without a new process, just from internal design improvements. And they piled on a bunch more multicore and GPU performance at close to the same power usage and price point.

12% is not internal design improvements, much of that is clock speed increases as outlined in the tweet.
 
I was in the local Apple store checking out the latest 15” MBP. I lust for it so. I have the credit to buy it interest free.

Alas, my wife would break my fingers individually if I brought that thing home.

These processing power increases are insane. My intel MBP is looking long in the tooth.

I wonder if I could soften the blow of a new one by handing my current one down to her. This worked last time, and hers is getting a bit long in the tooth…
 
True it probably be other two years if you are very lucky for Intel to be down to 5nm by that time and well Apple will probably be at 1nm.

Intel has already booked TSMC N5 and N3 capacity.
 
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