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Leaked Dummy Units Show iPad Mini 6 With Thick Bezels and Home Button, New iPad Pro Models
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LOL. No. No letdown. A MacBook Pro-level chip in an ipad is unprecedented.
I hope that ipad mini leak is inaccurate. I really want to see a flat edged design so you can use the apple pencil 2 with it. I have the larger ipad pro which i love, but as an artist, sometimes I’d prefer the ipad mini to sketch on when i wanna travel light....and i really don’t want to buy a first gen apple pencil.
A redesigned iPad Mini will sell better unlike the iPhone Mini for many reasons.
iPhone Mini has the same size notch as the rest of the iPhone 12 family, it’s battery life is not comparable and the lack of a telephoto camera along with the price has not hit a sweet spot. I suspect similar to the introduction of the XR, Apple will reduce the price by $50 on iPhone Mini 13 along with notch reduction and battery usage increase and it will see favourable sales.
iPad Mini 6 with a Air/Pro design has advantages over those two models as a Mini can be held in one hand which translates into even smaller bezels and still be able to retain similar battery usage life and incorporate with FaceID or TouchID with LiDAR camera system. The problem remains that it may be used as a phone as it will have no bezels. Basically a perfect handheld device.
Thicker? Thicker bezel? Home button?
Apple is using an old, old prototype to sniff out leakers.🤔
Apple is using an old, old prototype to sniff out leakers.🤔
Hopefully this is to deceive leakers... If we get an iPad Mini with the Pro form factor and features me and many many more will be on day 1 ready to buy one.
Hoping that is not true, but having a same design for the past 8 years is just pathetic in Apple's case.
They can make a mini sized iPad Pro but it would NOT sell like hot cakes.
Most people don't understand who the target market is for the iPad Mini. Hint: it's NOT the general consumer.
I think it is because of how difficult it would be to make a smaller keyboard. I would like to just have a slightly smaller iPad Pro, but being smaller than 11” would be difficult to design a Smart keyboard Folio for it. And an iPad Pro wouldn’t have much sense without a keyboard, from the commercial point of view.
Also, it would be expensive. If the 11” iPP starts at 809€, the Pro mini would start at 709€ probably. I don’t think much people would be willing to pay that price for a mini sized iPad, especially at the light of what’s happening with the iPhone 12 mini, which is selling poorly. The only way to keep the iPad mini cheap, is retaining the old design. And thank good they still manufacture it with laminated display.
Don’t get me wrong, I like the iPhone mini and the iPad mini, and I would choose them over bigger versions. But we’ll just have to admit that we’re on the minority.
It’d be nice to see the mini retain the physical home button. Unlike the other two, the mini is more of a mobile device, and that home button comes in very useful and reliable in the pinch, when you need to get in quick, or some other app locks up, when you’re standing in line to pay or scrambling to pull up a map before you miss another exit. Things a large iPad is too big to be of concern. The added power of iPad Pro hardware would be great, for illustration & audio recording (which the mini is excellent for, since it’s both large enough to use and small enough to be present in the moment), but would be a bonus. As I recall, the last time all three sizes of iPad got the same brand new top chipset, the Pro wasn’t in the lineup yet.
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I will only upgrade my mini when it get's the new design language. Holding out for this year so ignoring this rumour
How do we know this alleged iPad mini 6 dummy unit is not just the current iPad mini 5?
Sure, just like the iPhone 12 mini has sold like hot cakes.
The iPad mini is a niche product with great vertical market penetration and one of the main selling points is the continuity in the form factor. Other than about 50 people on this forum, no one is clamoring for an iPad Pro mini. Hopefully, Apple will ignore the tiny loud minority this time. I’m sure they got it right this time.
If the target market is not for consumers, then why post it on their website and not sell it directly to companies?
I understand that Apple may not sell in large quantities to consumers and that there might be larger quantities sold to pilots or POS devices, but I would think that money is money for Apple and that making a device that consumers would want to buy would be a top priority. And I think gauging the Mini demand based on an almost 10 year design is hardly justification for not upgrading it at this point.
I, for one, am holding out for this full screen iPad. Maybe it's just the Mini fanatic in me speaking, but we can all hope and speak with our money haha.
On the mini, I think re-designing it would require a bit too much effort from an design, engineering, and production standpoint relative to the benefits (addressable market). Remember, Apple is a functional organization so any work on a particular device is a potential "opportunity cost" so it needs to be put in context of the market it serves. I am sure they explore options, such as what if we use the iPad pro chassis but make it smaller (kind of like iPhone 12 mini relative to the 12). Result were probably not deemed to be good enough so they went the alternative route which is to 'just' plug in a faster chip to keep the device current instead of investing in 'new' R&D just for that form factor.
On the Pro, I am excited to see what the changes ends up being, and in particular, how they'll sell the thing relative to the previous generation if no exterior change (what does this do than the previous models and the current air can't).
On the Pro, I am excited to see what the changes ends up being, and in particular, how they'll sell the thing relative to the previous generation if no exterior change (what does this do than the previous models and the current air can't).
You are correct, that is the philosophy:
“Some people say, "Give the customers what they want." But that's not my approach. Our job is to figure out what they're going to want before they do. I think Henry Ford once said, "If I'd asked customers what they wanted, they would have told me, 'A faster horse!'" People don't know what they want until you show it to them. That's why I never rely on market research. Our task is to read things that are not yet on the page.” -Steve Jobs
LOLOLOLOL. Yeah. Sure. Just like the iPhone mini.
All ten of you will show up in droves to spend $699+ on the iPad mini Pro. And then Apple will have to cancel orders.
Because Apple doesn't care what 10 people on a website blog want. They care about what the market will buy. And the market won't buy a 7.9" iPad for $700+
"They just want small" without any legitimate reason. Same with the iPhone mini. Which is why Apple resisted making it for years, and now regrets having made it.
Technically speaking the M1 and A14X are likely to be almost identical chips, with the M1 possibly being clocked faster due to the better thermals and battery capacities of the M1 Macs. Recent benchmarks through PassMark show the M1 going toe-to-toe with desktop grade Intel 11th gen i9 chips and AMD Zen 3 Ryzen chips and either tying them or beating them in single-threaded performance. So think of the 2021 iPad Pro as being a tablet with a high-end laptop-class processor in it.
Also, M1 Macs have been out for less than five months. The Firestorm cores inside the A14, M1 and future A14X are still bleeding edge CPU microarchitecture.