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Leaked EU Document Could Spell Major Changes for App Store, Messages, FaceTime, Browsers, and Siri
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Yep me too, it's because the US tax system is so complicated, every state has their own tax rate, they even have extra Tax Jurisdiction Codes for Vertex area lookups. Depending of in which state you buy your iPhone, you pay more or less $.
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Actually they are both as bad as each other, neither is trustworthy in the slightest and they will do anything to remain at the top. You are just a cash cow or a person they will lie to to ensure you give them your vote and money. Morales aren’t often thought of in their games.
You're right, it does go too far. That's what happens when companies fail to self-regulate. If Apple had opened up to app installation outside of the App Store on their own accord, then we wouldn't be in a situation where iOS devices that no longer receive OS updates, but are otherwise perfectly adequate browsing devices, can't browse the web because nobody is allowed to make a functional browser compatible with the modern web for them, and those arguing that Apples 30% cut is too much would have no argument as Apple could just say "well do it yourself then". As we stand right now Apple have grown into a behemoth that dictates how other companies can build applications/websites/pricing models, simply by making devices so good that 33% of all Europeans choose them, and that's a problem to put it simply.
Personally I want to see regulations divide products into categories of "purpose specific" and "general purpose", where if a manufacturer wants to make a device in the latter category, and market said device as "capable of installing new functionality", then they can't also dictate how that happens. That means 3rd party app installations, and an OS with open APIs for human interaction features. I think the EU goes too far when they say Apple can't place their services as defaults, to me that's their perk for building the device.
Since you may not realize that there is game streaming in the iOS App Store:
The conflicts with Microsoft and Nvidia essentially come down to disputes over revenue sharing and not letting them run third party app stores. Steam Link works because it is not an App Store, but just a game streamer.
The rules Apple published are also purposely not obscure - they are the rules Apple has game developers adhere to for Apple Arcade (although Apple Arcade has additional rules - must support all relevant Apple platforms, must not have DLC or advertisements, etc). Those rules are Apple basically saying that if someone wants to compete with Apple Arcade on even terms, they welcome it (and welcome the revenue sharing).
Chances are if Microsoft or Nvidia had taken Apple up on this, we would not have an arcade tab in the App Store on Mac or iOS, but rather an Arcade catalogue app (like on Apple TV).
Google did the same thing, but their gaming service (Stadia) was much more directly competitive to Microsoft's and Nvidia's offerings. Google did not really have any legally defensible means to keep out direct competitors.
Yep, and Apple will never become a good Software Service Company.
Look at the failure rate of their iCloud crap, or at their macOS Server and infamous XServer and TimeCapsule hardware, this says it all.
Apple will learn the hard way, just MS did. Anyway, Microsoft have to take care, they are slowly moving into a dangerous zone again with Edge and the enforced Windows Startmenu Websearch inclusion without alternative choice.
Exactly, many people here fail to see the big picture. They think it’s just about side loading. Haha! Those congressmen couldn’t care less about your sideloading rights. It’s about their jurisdiction, monitoring and control over tech companies and more importantly, to pave the way for them to be able to monitor our private communication again. Anyway, we can’t wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
It has nothing to do with governments doing crapy tax laws. But about companies doing their hardest to outsmart and abuse and count profits ass losses to themselves. The double Irish sandwich existed only for tax purposes.
Simple. Small companies doing anticompetitive practices have close to 0 harm to the market, above a certain size the market influence makes these previously legal actions harmful.
That is why they regulate abuse of dominant position. And doesn't care about market size.
Forcing the government to prove two things.
1: a dominant position exist
2: abusing this situation.
if not both are true then nothing will happen
You only need look at the photo in the article. Thousands of worthless desk pilots need funding. The EU is nothing more than a stealing dictatorship.
With respect, you answered your own question. Its exactly crappy tax law from gov.
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The iPhone will still be profitable.
It just won’t be the same ecosystem I use and love (I mean, this is why I am an iPhone user in the first place). Which is why I continue to be of the opinion that Apple should absolutely not cave in or make a deal with regulators. Apple should continue to base its fight on App Store merits and see where things fall. If legislation and regulation go against Apple, as appears to be the case in Europe, the company can then pursue backup options (for example, still seeking revenue share even after third party payments are allowed, or imposing limitations on sideloaded apps).
said:The iPhone will still be profitable.
It just won’t be the same ecosystem I use and love (I mean, this is why I am an iPhone user in the first place). Which is why I continue to be of the opinion that Apple should absolutely not cave in or make a deal with regulators. Apple should continue to base its fight on App Store merits and see where things fall. If legislation and regulation go against Apple, as appears to be the case in Europe, the company can then pursue backup options (for example, still seeking revenue share even after third party payments are allowed, or imposing limitations on sideloaded apps).
Because these boxes came in because of the GDPR. Part 2 of the DPA is the GDPR so I'm not sure why "legally" anything would have changed.
well, we don't know, it could just as well be that nobody cares about the walled garden and just accepts it as a negative thing that other things makes up for. it's only apple who claims this is a thing without evidence.
thats completely up to apple, EU don't care if apps on the App Store pays more. as long as users can freely install apps without the appstore.
i do wonder why sweden, france, germany finland etc forced all cars to have seatbelts in the 70s?
they aren't. not a single developer is forced to develop their apps for other platforms. what Eu is mandating is they should use an interoperable standard. if it's SMS or RCS between iMessage and WhatsApp then so be it, because currently only android allow other apps to receive text
They are, it just happens to be that EU have higher standards, so it doesn't affect us. Eu only regulate the internal market, if American companies want to sell lead lined bottles in the USA, then they are free to do so, just not in EU
i will tell you a secret, you can already buy different branded cars at different dealers. a VW dealership can sell Kia if they want, manufacturers are banned from preventing them to sell other cars.
I'm talking about incompatible with gas pumps!
The EU didnt need to force Tesla to make compatible charge points. The market would have forced Tesla. Tesla cannot supply all the EV's in the world. Other EV companies would eventually make up the lion share of EV cars forcing Tesla to comply. However, to start off their innovation you cant force companies to make commercial decisions that aren't in their interest.
Apple devices have historically had a better security scenario than its competitors. Both MS and Google operating systems. So I dont know if your joking here?
Yes, And millions of people have had to deal with these breaches that have contributed to their "hardening". On the other hand Apple users have not been exposed to the level of security issues Windows and Android users have over the last few decades.
So I dont really agree that Apple's approach is worse at all. It has proven itself over the time to have exposed its users to far less problems than its competitors. As a customer I'd rather choose the company that has the best track record personally.
This baffles me how little understanding people have of this field. These are extraordinary easy things to implement, and there exist even one commercial service that allowed almost every messaging service to be interoperable.
Communication applications can use multiple protocols at the same time. just as a 4K TV can receive .AVI .MP4 .MKV .MOV etc. same with EU PAL broadcasting standard and NTSC standard.
Safari can visit Chrome optimized websites and chrome can visit safari optimized websites.
the simplest would be a simple check and backup protocol.
1: is the number registered with iMessage?
1a if yes send iMessage protocol and keys. blue bubble
1b if no check if number is registered with RCS( or waterier other encrypted standard you want)
2: if number is registered with RCS send message with RCS protocol and keys red bubble
2a if not registered with imessage or RCS the nsend normal SMS protocol.
2b sned sms with green bubble and no security.
yep and the EU standard is capable to provide way more than 500v DC and 200a charging. teslas port is kind of dead and inferior
Edit: and no need for a blody converter for simple electricity.
One Port for 240-400v single or 3 phase charging and a little extro bellow for DC fast charging
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? To the “Apple should leave the EU”, I’m looking forward to the “Apple should leave the US” posts.
It’s coming to the US too, stay tuned!
It’s coming to the US too, stay tuned!
😑 — so tiring to see how folks are eager to use force to make companies do what they have a personal preference for.
Wow, even endorsed by out-of-touch neocon dinosaur Hitlery Clinton. Not surprised.