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Those of you dumping on those of us looking for a UI design are missing the point. You might as well be saying "'dumb phones' have worked well for years, why switch?"

I find the grid of apps springboard both visually ugly and functionally cumbersome. Nowadays, we use widgets and SIRI shortcuts to access apps. I find I hardly ever use the springboard to access apps, primarily because of widgets and shortcuts. But also because of how cumbersome the springboard is. And the current folder implementation has got to go. I'd rather it open by "pushing" the window lower rather than "popping" up a window.

We're looking for a UI redesign that leverages widgets and shortcuts. I personally was hoping that the SIRI watch face introduced in WatchOS 4 was a hint at the direction Apple might go with iOS. I also like the scrolling springboard that Ubuntu Touch uses. To me, that's far more useful than swiping through pages of apps. App pages are a terrible way of leveraging widgets and shortcuts. A scrolling springboard would be much better. Or, perhaps, push "the grid" into the background much like the watch does.

The bottom line is this: it's been 12 years. Technology and software have changed considerably since then. It's time for the UI to reflect those changes. And, going forward, Apple needs to do a better job of making sure the UI reflects the current state of software and technology, not let it look like a '52 Studebaker (look it up) with a modern drive-train.
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I wouldn't get too excited. It could just as easily be one of those stupid "Why there's nothing wrong with *insert gripe*..." type podcasts. The whole point is to quell consumer backlash so that companies don't actually have to spend money on themselves and their products and can, instead, spend money on stock dividends and buy backs to make their investors happy.

If companies spent time (read: money) on improving products for their customers, investors would loose money! Can't have that, now can we?
 
Looks terrible. Like an early draft. That better be what this is, given the iOS 12 wallpaper. The music app with its total black looks awful. Dark mode on macOS is a super thoughtful, smart redesign—this looks like smart invert with some grey gaussian blurs. The reminders app looks like some rough drafting—looks sparse. The weird homescreen blur on the screenshot markup is bad and weird and the tool icons look unfinished
 
So can I finally put an icon on the screen where I want to !!!!
For example on the bottom row or right corner.....
 
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No new wallpaper, same boring grid of apps. Apple, darling, buddy, old pal, you are doing it wrong.

A phone that is for productivity is BORING. We want FUN. We want NOVELTY. I suggest a hide-and-seek mode. For example. Every time you unlock your phone, all your apps are rearranged and you have to find them.

Also, widgets on the Home screen. I need the weather widget at all times taking up real estate, even though some people claim you check the weather once for the day, I need it constantly on the Lock screen and Home screen. You never know when you need to know the current temperature.

Also, split screen. I want to listen to a Podcast and watch YouTube at the same time.

i guarantee there's gonna be a new wallpaper. this has to be an earlier version.
 
If companies spent time (read: money) on improving products for their customers, investors would loose money! Can't have that, now can we?


What are you even talking about? And, it's lose, not loose.

https://appleinsider.com/articles/1...eeds-3b-for-first-time-up-410m-from-september

Apple R&D spend exceeds $3B for first time, up $410M from September
By Mikey Campbell
Friday, February 02, 2018, 06:25 pm PT (09:25 pm ET)

As per usual, Apple accelerated investments in research and development operations over its first fiscal quarter of 2018, spending more than $3.4 billion on new hires and initiatives that will keep the company competitive in a fast-paced tech market.


and from March 2019, Business Insider ->


Shayanne Gal/Business Insider

Steve Jobs famously slashed Apple's R&D budget when he returned to the company in the late 1990s. Since then, though, the iPhone maker has increased its research budget every single year.

In its last fiscal year, Apple spent $14.2 billion on R&D. That's more than Apple's entire revenue 15 years earlier and 18 times more than it spent in 2007, the year it launched the iPhone.
 
Fake. Look at the time vs the clock app time.
I believe it's fake, but not from the clock. When you plug your iPhone in to a Mac to record it with QuickTime, it always does this. Time at top is always set to 9:41 and the clock app continues as per usual.
 
They probably got the screenshots from their source and photoshopped them into an iPhone X device frame, for which templates are probably more easily available than iPhone XS. The wallpaper is meaningless; software engineers are not involved with that decision and it’s chosen very late in the game.
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There’s a difference between “reportedly” and people on MacRumors and Reddit talking out of their rear ends.
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/05/10/ios-13-drops-iphone-6-iphone-5s-iphone-se-rumor/
 
I'm honestly not sure what home screen redesign you're expecting on iPhone / iPod touch. The ability to add more icons per page would be nice, and maybe a return to the aesthetics of iOS 6 and earlier, but that's all I can think of.

Sure - I'll take this as a start. A setting beyond Standard/Zoomed to fit more icons per page for those of us who aren't in our 70's? An option to arrange our icons without being forced into a linear grid? Or how about just absolutely anything which isn't the same old icon grid that was in the 2007 iPhone.
 
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So, considering that the current user interface was introduced in 2007, I would say we’re a bit past your 5-7 major redesign window.

I don’t know of any operating system out there that has the same look and feel of one they had in 2007 — including Mac OS.

It’s tired, old, and time for a refresh. Maybe this article is BS and we’ll still see that next week.
Actually there was a complete overhaul in 2013 with iOS 7. Then a minor refresh in 2016 with iOS 10 where most apps took on the Apple Music design language. And now 3 years later there will be another minor design refresh with dark mode giving a whole new feel. But why pay attention to facts right? Not sure what you are referring to iOS having the same look since 2007 because thats entirely 100 percent false. And actually Mac OS has looked mostly the same since Leopard back in 2007.
 
Those of you dumping on those of us looking for a UI design are missing the point. You might as well be saying "'dumb phones' have worked well for years, why switch?"

I find the grid of apps springboard both visually ugly and functionally cumbersome. Nowadays, we use widgets and SIRI shortcuts to access apps. I find I hardly ever use the springboard to access apps, primarily because of widgets and shortcuts. But also because of how cumbersome the springboard is. And the current folder implementation has got to go. I'd rather it open by "pushing" the window lower rather than "popping" up a window.

We're looking for a UI redesign that leverages widgets and shortcuts. I personally was hoping that the SIRI watch face introduced in WatchOS 4 was a hint at the direction Apple might go with iOS. I also like the scrolling springboard that Ubuntu Touch uses. To me, that's far more useful than swiping through pages of apps. App pages are a terrible way of leveraging widgets and shortcuts. A scrolling springboard would be much better. Or, perhaps, push "the grid" into the background much like the watch does.

The bottom line is this: it's been 12 years. Technology and software have changed considerably since then. It's time for the UI to reflect those changes. And, going forward, Apple needs to do a better job of making sure the UI reflects the current state of software and technology, not let it look like a '52 Studebaker (look it up) with a modern drive-train.
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I wouldn't get too excited. It could just as easily be one of those stupid "Why there's nothing wrong with *insert gripe*..." type podcasts. The whole point is to quell consumer backlash so that companies don't actually have to spend money on themselves and their products and can, instead, spend money on stock dividends and buy backs to make their investors happy.

If companies spent time (read: money) on improving products for their customers, investors would loose money! Can't have that, now can we?

Just to be clear, you want widgets and shortcuts?
 
No, it's because we need to move on. 1 GB should be ancient history now, and developers shouldn't feel constrained by having to develop for 1 GB iPhones, iPads, and iPods in 2019.
The vast majority of developers, myself included, will never be constrained by the 1GB of RAM. Apps that are already put in their description that they won't work with certain devices.
 
I'm honestly not sure what home screen redesign you're expecting on iPhone / iPod touch. The ability to add more icons per page would be nice, and maybe a return to the aesthetics of iOS 6 and earlier, but that's all I can think of.

The home screen on iOS is like the Dock on MacOS. Not much about it has changed, because Apple mostly got it right early on. Use a Mac running 2002's OS X Jaguar and the Dock looks / works much the same as today, aside from the different icons and addition of Stacks in Leopard.
I would like to add widgets o. It
 
So is this really what people want the home screen to look like? Because I think it’s a mess.

ios_blocks_concept_screens.jpg
 
People think these are leaks? Seriously? And Macrumors is reporting them as truthful?

They're using a old iOS12 background with iPhone X (not even XS), these screenshots are no older than June of 2018 before the XS even came out.

They *may* be leaked but it's really so easily to change that I don't believe this was supposed to be ready. I think somebody found some old screenshots and put them out, but even if they didn't, it doesn't take very long to make fake screenshots with any competent UI person.
 
So is this really what people want the home screen to look like? Because I think it’s a mess.

ios_blocks_concept_screens.jpg

I'm not one of the people complaining about a lack of UI refresh, but I'd like the option to do the above. One of the few aspects of the Android operating system I actually miss was the ability to place app icons where you want in case of owning a wallpaper of a loved one, or artwork, etc.

Weather, Reminders, and Calendar app Widget options similar to Google's implementation and like displayed above would be nice. While there's very few widgets that interest me personally, I find Android's implementation to be superior than Apple's.
 
So is this really what people want the home screen to look like? Because I think it’s a mess.

Im not sure if that's it.. but the option to do something similar should be in there at this point. These devices are absolutely able to do so much more and yet Apple hinders their own hardware with their software. It makes no sense at this point in the product lifespan not to grow the system. Baby steps at the beginning made sense.. now their user base is grown up, their hardware is grown up.. their software isn't. And I'm a programmer that works with their stuff daily. You can do so much with their coding language and yet you submit it and it gets denied because they themselves didn't intend for you to be able to do something outside of their playground. It's craziness!
 
It’s not 2010 anymore. It’s time for you and others to curb expectations of major software or hardware redesigns every couple of years let alone every year. The market is mature. Overall the design of iOS is just fine, but could use some tweaks here and there. Which is what happens now. And apple is selling loads of devices and making lots of money. Clearly they know what they’re doing.

For the 50th time around here, I’ll refer to the car market. Cars get very very minor tweaks every year and moderate or major redesigns every 5-7 years.

Yep. Like what major redesign is even possible? Make the icons round? Make the phone a triangle? Until they are installed in our heads, a phone is probably gonna be a rectangle and icons are probably gonna be squares.
 
So it's not fathomable so have a rethinking of the UI with a good experience. I know we cant fathom the thought of innovation.

Exactly HOW hard would a toggle "Hide dock" be; turn off the UI element. Or change color of this UI element. Very simply code changes with a toggle. THAT would affect the experience? I mean "c'mon man."



"Most of them have voted with their feet and chosen the Apple UI over the more customizable Android UI"

Uhhhhh in what reality exactly? The numbers simply dont back that up. Android global market share is 75%, Apple is 23%. http://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/worldwide

Apple shipments are down nearly 1/3 (I believe around that % I cant find the graphic) year to year, more than any OEM.

People are clearly NOT overwhelming choosing iPhones- less than 1 out of 4 people globally. And Apple would kill for even a few percent of those; as that is millions of sales.


Look I've only owned 2 Android phones ever many years ago (a G2 and a Galaxy S5) and dont trust Google to go use them nowadays, but owned every iphone since the 3GS; however denial is also a river in Egypt and Im not in it here that iOS is stale and could be improved to bring users in/back
The "most of them" that voted with their feet are the 98% of non-Macrumors APPLE users I referred to in my post. Not total smartphone users. Thanks for participating, however.
 
Ios 13 now is gonna be boring great no redesign at all just black wow
You forgot about the iPad that may be getting a redesign. These screenshots were focused on the iPhone.

Plus we aren't talking about all of iOS 13 here, just the few things mentioned in this thread.
 
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