Here's a comparison of the lenses. Interestingly, the touch camera seems to resemble the iPhone 3GS more than the nano. iFixit said it was unlikely that the iPhone camera in the touch, but it may have been possible after all. (which breaks the argument that Apple didn't want to put the sub-par nano camera in the touch)
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Leaked iPod Touch with Camera Photos Were Real
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Perhaps the camera in the prototype was a prototype itself, thinner yet capable of better quality video and stills rather than the Nano camera but not quite ready for mainstream release and undergoing further development. Whether a camera model will be released before next September may depend on how sales of the new model go, if they drop enough over the next month or so we may see an early release. Personally I don't see the current 3G as worth the upgrade from my 2G but would have been happy to snap up a 64GB if it had come out with all the bells and whistles.
This pretty much sums up my feelings
It is not far fetched to think Apple contacted a manufacturer to make a custom quality camera on par w/ the iPhone 3GS. The manufacturer probably had problems so they had to move on.
It is not far fetched to think Apple contacted a manufacturer to make a custom quality camera on par w/ the iPhone 3GS. The manufacturer probably had problems so they had to move on.
LOL. True. Can you find his exact post?
EDIT: Upon searching, I'm not sure he ever said it was fake.
LOL. True. Can you find his exact post?
EDIT: Upon searching, I'm not sure he ever said it was fake.
Yeah, I don't think he did. Although he was always king of the FAKE police and an avid 'Apple Would Never Do That'er.
Wrong comparisons
To the iPod Touch User having a camera in the Touch more sense than in the Nano as you say. But this is not about iPod Touch Users. It is about what the competition is for the various iPod models.
The Nano needed a camera to compete against other companies that are putting cameras into small mp3 players like the Nano. the iPod Touch is in a class with one other device. That device wins out at Apple at the current time. That device is the iPhone. If the iPod Touch has too many of the features that the iPhone has Steve Jobs & Apple must fear for iPhone sales.
To many iPod Touch Users there is a big difference between the two. But remember that the iPod Touch comes the closest to the iPhone in features & software that it will run. there are other smart phones that compete with the iPhone, but that direct competition only happens with AT&T cell service. So the Touch User will always be a second class Apple citizen. This is just like the PPC Mac User is now a second hand Mac User & will very soon be kicked out of the club.
The profit margin is probably higher on the Touch than on the Nano. Normally more features are put on the higher price/margin item to make the largest total profit. There may be a small amount of competition between the Touch & Nano, but that is very small compared to the competition that was listed above.
i think next year they will bust out a came for ipod touch..speaking of camera iphone next year will get a front cam..apple is teasing for now..
it would make more sense for ipod touch to get the camera not nano..because ipod touch has wifi that for you can upload to youtube instead of ipod nano plug to computer then upload..
i do like the new shiny nano colors they look yummy to eat
and wow FM. radio is so 2010..
To the iPod Touch User having a camera in the Touch more sense than in the Nano as you say. But this is not about iPod Touch Users. It is about what the competition is for the various iPod models.
The Nano needed a camera to compete against other companies that are putting cameras into small mp3 players like the Nano. the iPod Touch is in a class with one other device. That device wins out at Apple at the current time. That device is the iPhone. If the iPod Touch has too many of the features that the iPhone has Steve Jobs & Apple must fear for iPhone sales.
To many iPod Touch Users there is a big difference between the two. But remember that the iPod Touch comes the closest to the iPhone in features & software that it will run. there are other smart phones that compete with the iPhone, but that direct competition only happens with AT&T cell service. So the Touch User will always be a second class Apple citizen. This is just like the PPC Mac User is now a second hand Mac User & will very soon be kicked out of the club.
The profit margin is probably higher on the Touch than on the Nano. Normally more features are put on the higher price/margin item to make the largest total profit. There may be a small amount of competition between the Touch & Nano, but that is very small compared to the competition that was listed above.
The reader emailed me directly, and it wasn't clear if he/she wanted direct credit or not. I err'd on the side of caution, but have an email out.
arn
I don't care what the reason is for the lack of a camera; bottom line is Jobs is a liar.
Go ahead keep on worshipping him
Very true - and an excellent post. I agree...but I am in the minority here.
D
That lens looks quite a bit bigger than even the 3GS camera. It probably was a decent sensor in there.
Not if they keep the ones without and the ones with are more expensive
Kind of like iPhone 3G and 3GS
I am sure that these full featured 'ipod' will have 10'' screen, GPS, 3G, camera..
Guess what,,,, they will be called iTablet !
This may be why Apple releases products that people complain about. They'll still buy them. And when Apple releases the new version with some of what they want, they'll buy that model as well.
What would keep Apple from will releasing a 16GB iPod touch with video camera and FM stereo for the same price as the current 32GB iPod touch w/o camera & FM. (soon, i.e. before Christmas)
Yes, but he could have just said that currently the camera chips that would need to be incorporated are not up to Apples standard, so they have decided to wait, rather that all that crap that the touch is some sort of optimal gaming machine.
Exactly.
If you look at it though, it's economically sound to sell your Touch right before every update. If you can sell it even for 70% of what you paid, you probably paid not even $100 to use it for a full year. And after every update, the value of the previous generation drops like crazy. It's far better to upgrade every year, than every two or three. 32GB 1G's have lost 60% of their value ($300) since release, and that's less than 2 years.
Here's my thinking on why Apple didn't put it in right away. It is the same reason that I believe they updated the shuffle sometime in the middle of the year when it was completely unexpected. They want a little boost in sales after the whole christmas rush is over. Not putting the camera in until later would make people buy a different iPod then when it came out they would think something like, "Dang, i just got this iPod 3 or 4 months ago but now the touch has a camera so i guess 'm getting a new iPod."
Oh... to boost the sales of the touch now they didn't add more memory to the nano. If they added a 32 Gig option to the nano the touch would drop in sales by a significant amount.
So yeah... Apple likes money
Thats just my 2¢
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^looks like FaasNat beat me to it.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Oh... to boost the sales of the touch now they didn't add more memory to the nano. If they added a 32 Gig option to the nano the touch would drop in sales by a significant amount.
So yeah... Apple likes money
Thats just my 2¢
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^looks like FaasNat beat me to it.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Well, I will se eyou guys after christmas. Apple is quite famous for updating stuff prior to the holidays and then dropping something better soon after.
Goodluck to all of you that need the new wank camera in an iPod for some reason. If you have already identified that you are ging to "need" a camera, maybe you should take the $400ish that you are ging to spend on an iPod, save a few weeks, and get a DSLR. That would be better.
Get over this whole camera thing. Hasn't been in the touch for going on 3 years. No one has died because of it.
Goodluck to all of you that need the new wank camera in an iPod for some reason. If you have already identified that you are ging to "need" a camera, maybe you should take the $400ish that you are ging to spend on an iPod, save a few weeks, and get a DSLR. That would be better.
Get over this whole camera thing. Hasn't been in the touch for going on 3 years. No one has died because of it.
LOL, not entirely clear? It's more than just clear because apples rip off strategy is always following the same matrix. They know there are enough stupid people who will buy the current ipod touch and that they will also buy the other one with the camera next year. Be happy there are no apple hospitals
they would fight one tumor in your body and leave the other one on its place to take it out another time $$$Can somebody solder a camera to the touch and see if it shows up in the software? Or look in the software fro code relevant to a camera appp on the touch?