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Samsung mocking Apple is all part of marketing and business competition. Apple came up with an ad saying how the screen size of the iPhone 5 was perfect for the thumb’s reach dissing big Samsung phones. Not sure why anyone is surprised. And yes, Samsung will always do what Apple does.
Exactly, it's a two way street, like with the Mac vs PC campaign—when somewhat ironically—they're now guilty of doing several of the talking points themselves. 🤣
 
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People look at this and say Samsung is a copycat.

In the larger picture, it's called competition. All competitive companies will copy one another, sometimes down to the last detail, or whatever they can copy legally.
 
Obviously people in here do not understand how things work in the consumer business world. One company makes a change that is seen to benifit the environment. This move is applauded around the world from tech groups to environmental groups. Now, when competitors bring out their products, critics and reviewers will be making comments about the companies environmental credentials and thus will start comparing the one company that made changes to benifit the environment against competitiors who havent made the change. This will then get picked up by the main stream media and before you know it, the competitiors are derided in the press for not being environmental enough which has a knock on effect of the public thinking twice about buying the product.

Regardless of what samsung has said about Apple, Apple removing the charger will force all the other phone manufacturers to do the same because the media will put pressure to bear down on them to do so with articles like 'Apple has has made the change, why haven't you? Do you not consider the protection of the environment important enough?'

Yes this is an Apple forum so naturally everything is biased towards Apple so naturally people will be having a pop at Samsung calling them hypocrites but in this regards Samsung is anything but.
 
I don’t understand the MR shoulder chip on this several articles later. What Samsung did was called marketing 101. Served its purpose at the time, now they’re moving on. No one cares about they reversed course a year later. Companies do this all the time. How long did Apple complain about big screens and then release big phones anyway?
I know this is a minority opinion in the world today, but to some of us, integrity matters.

It's fine to change your mind, but what's not cool is to flount something in someone's face only to turn around a moment later yourself and not expect any blowback.
 
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Obviously people in here do not understand how things work in the consumer business world. One company makes a change that is seen to benifit the environment. This move is applauded around the world from tech groups to environmental groups. Now, when competitors bring out their products, critics and reviewers will be making comments about the companies environmental credentials and thus will start comparing the one company that made changes to benifit the environment against competitiors who havent made the change. This will then get picked up by the main stream media and before you know it, the competitiors are derided in the press for not being environmental enough which has a knock on effect of the public thinking twice about buying the product.

Regardless of what samsung has said about Apple, Apple removing the charger will force all the other phone manufacturers to do the same because the media will put pressure to bear down on them to do so with articles like 'Apple has has made the change, why haven't you? Do you not consider the protection of the environment important enough?'

Yes this is an Apple forum so naturally everything is biased towards Apple so naturally people will be having a pop at Samsung calling them hypocrites but in this regards Samsung is anything but.
That's a lot mental gymnastics, there. Lots of reporters have criticized Apple for not including a charger, but you conveniently ignore that so you can make your argument that "Samsung had no choice."
 
Are they not embarrassed about this, or do they think people just won't notice.
People that care about this won't buy a Samsung anyway, and those that like Samsung won't care about this. It just fortifies the wall between the two groups.
 
The funniest thing about this is the only people that care Samsung made fun of no charger are people on these forums. 99% of consumers don't care and don't know. Their social media post will not affect people's purchase decisions anyway. Apple got negative press at the time- and that gives Samsung a pass to do it with less negativity.

Samsung probably is happy Apple did it so they can cut costs as well. Samsung gets a free ride here to cost savings.

Who wins here? Apple and Samsung.

Who loses? Consumers.
Samsung mocking Apple is all part of marketing and business competition. Apple came up with an ad saying how the screen size of the iPhone 5 was perfect for the thumb’s reach dissing big Samsung phones. Not sure why anyone is surprised. And yes, Samsung will always do what Apple does.
Interesting how Samsung includes an ejection pin. Apple includes a SIM removal tool.

That's marketing 101. Name your stuff what it does, not what it is. (granted Apple is lately horrid with naming, thankfully this name came from years ago when Apple was good at naming.)
Who is "they" and why would "they" be embarrassed? Samsung is a bunch of people who get paid to show up to work each day, who likely couldn't care less about anything beyond their paycheck.
So you're asking why should anyone have pride about their work?
 
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I only disagree with the stylus part here. The Pencil is NOT the same thing Steve was referring to (a device that NECESSITATED a stylus as a means of interaction).
Exactly. The Pencil is not a stylus, nor is it even available to use for the iPhone.
 
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That's a lot mental gymnastics, there. Lots of reporters have criticized Apple for not including a charger, but you conveniently ignore that so you can make your argument that "Samsung had no choice."
I've ignored nothing. Apple was not criticized for it's environmental stance on not including a charger, Apple was being criticized by reporters because of the issue of what happens if a customer who does not have any other Apple products purchases an iphone for the first time, they are forced to buy a charger. Apple took the stance that it would be exisiting Apple owners who already have the correct charger that would be getting the new iphones, thus a charger not being required. THIS is what reporters were critizing Apple about.

Therefore the issue of samsung not having a choice still stands.
 
What a fun history of delicious irony Samsung has with Apple.

I do like their phone hardware designs - not this one, but the small/almost non-existent bezels are pretty sweet, I hope we get that from Apple one day in the future. Make my Mini even more mini!
 
People look at this and say Samsung is a copycat.

In the larger picture, it's called competition. All competitive companies will copy one another, sometimes down to the last detail, or whatever they can copy legally.
It's totally legitimate if a competitor does something and you think it is a good idea to then copy it. It's still legitimate to not tell the public that you copied someone, but just to say "look at this excellent thing we are now doing". But first attacking the other company and then copying requires saying sorry about the attack.
 
Samsung doing the same thing they made fun of Apple for doing?! This is the first time they’ve done this !!!!
 
Yes, clearly both companies copy each other for various features and technologies. Right now most flagship androids come with 120hz screens and apple has yet to introduce that, although it’s rumored to be introduced this year.

What makes this event funny and ironic is that Samsung openly mocked apple for not including the charger and reconfirming that they still ship a charger and haven’t “cheaped out“. Only to go ahead and remove the charger less Than 6 months later once the accounting department realized just how much money they could actually save by not including said charger
 
S21 phone prices are $200 less across board, Samsung has been bundling USB-C chargers since the 2017 Galaxy S8 so customers are bound to have a spare and if you need a new charger the price is reduced. Proof that Apple's reason is purely for profit.
 
So they just need to rename it as "SIM ejection pin" right? are you really this dense?
We need to realize that the majority of device users aren't tech focused individuals. Although a regular person won't know what a SIM is, when their carrier tells them to use the SIM removal tool, at least the name of the purpose is in the name. This is called precision of language. With English as the language that has the most numerous words, PR and marketing companies/ departments should choose the word that makes the most sense and is most useful to the widest audience.
PS. I'm far from an english major, just someone who realizes being intentional with what you write makes a difference.
 
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