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No it doesn't!

There is no monitor I know of that connects directly to a mini-DVI plug. So you must have some sort of dongle/converter cable anyway.
And whether that's mini-DVI -> DVI or miniDisplayPort -> DVI makes no difference!

'Switchers' must buy either cable. And both are about the same price.
So there is no point in providing both 'mini' connectors.

While I agree that it doesn't make sense to include both types, I don't think Apple is that greedy to skimp a $5 adapter from the new Mini, so I think they'll include at least one so the buyer doesn't have to buy one.
 
You still didn't answer my question - if it's not for TV, why does apple include front row and a remote?

That's a good point. FrontRow is so dysfunctional on the mac that its not worth the efforts. My biggest gripe with it ( and there are more than one) is that after all this time that its been shipping on macs one cannot do simple things like categorize movies based on genres or make custom folders. How the heck or you supposed to keep track of a movie collection and use it with front row if it can't do that. I would buy the mini if it worked with frontrow like it should. Also, I can't justify buying an appleTV with the ridiculously small hard drives that they ship with only to be forced to strap on an external hard drive. Seems that apple isn't taking this whole digital hub thing very seriously.
 
I take it you've never used Windows Media Center either? Please elaborate.

Actually, I have attempted to use it on many occasions as its evolved over the years, and in its latest iteration, it is decent. However, if you go into most big box electronics stores, merely mentioning that you are looking for a media center, and you will be directed to higher end PCs with the argument that you need the power to play your media. This experience has also been echoed by many I talk to that are your typical consumers that do not frequent sites like CNET, ExtemeTech, etc. Further, remember a few years ago when PC manufacturers promised to tie our family room to all of the media on our computers? You would be hard pressed to find any close to or below $1,000.00. Many people are unaware that there are some low cost alternatives, such as the Shuttle XPC, which will satisfy many.

Personally, I believe the fact that the MacMini is only marginally higher than something like the Shuttle XPC X200M, has a more mature iteration of Boxee available, and the plus of Apple customer service, it makes for a superior buyer experience.
 
So pleased when I saw the thread title , then I saw the pic...something is not right with the left hand side of that unit, the right side looks like it's viewed directly from above then the left side looks like its viewed from an angle ,....two pics mixed into one maybe ?.
 
Are there any in a box 2" x 6.5" x 6.5" that are silent?

Who cares how big it is? This is the only machine apple offers in this price range. If there's a better chip and apple can't use it because they insist on an impractical case design, that's their fault.

And if you think it's "silent" you have obviously never used a mini. Or at least not used it enough to push it at all - it does have fans and when they kick in it is NOT silent by any stretch of the imagination.

You've been bitchin' about the Mini for two years. Why stop now? :rolleyes:

I'll stop when they fix the damn thing.
 
YAY and ABOUT TIME, if true!

I'm skeptical though. Why provide mini-DVI? It provides choice, and it diminishes the need to buy new adaptors (for those who have Macs already) which are very un-Apple.

Also odd is the display symbol representing both - since the ports are such different sizes, it looks off-centre. Knowing how careful Apple are about visual details, you'd think they'd use a symbol for each or find some other way to make it look central (design the whole thing with borders or use connecting lines perhaps)

It does seem like an otherwise realistic photo though. Hope it's true, I've been waiting to grab one for ages!
 
Who cares how big it is? This is the only machine apple offers in this price range. If there's a better chip and apple can't use it because they insist on an impractical case design, that's their fault.

And if you think it's "silent" you have obviously never used a mini. Or at least not used it enough to push it at all - it does have fans and when they kick in it is NOT silent by any stretch of the imagination.



I'll stop when they fix the damn thing.

Well form factor is always a big selling point. If not, buy a PC..
 
5 usb ports is way too excessive for Apple. Just doesnt make any sense given Apple's track record. Plus dont USB controllers always come in pairs?
 
So pleased when I saw the thread title , then I saw the pic...something is not right with the left hand side of that unit, the right side looks like it's viewed directly from above then the left side looks like its viewed from an angle ,....two pics mixed into one maybe ?.

I also thought something is odd about the photo. It reminds of an Escher drawing. The left side looks like the bottom of the unit is sitting on the wooden surface, but the right side looks like the front of the unit is face down. And of course it appears to taper out toward the front, which seems strange.
 
No it doesn't!

There is no monitor I know of that connects directly to a mini-DVI plug. So you must have some sort of dongle/converter cable anyway.
And whether that's mini-DVI -> DVI or miniDisplayPort -> DVI makes no difference!

'Switchers' must buy either cable. And both are about the same price.
So there is no point in providing both 'mini' connectors.

But miniDVI can go backwards to analog standards like VGA. Where DP isn't Backwards compatible with any analog standards not even DVI-A.

So between MiniDP and MiniDVI you have everything covered some twice.
 
I don't see a need for 5 USB ports. One for keyboard, one for mouse, one for backup drive or external. Still two left. One for flash drive and still one left. Maybe one for a camera?
 
Connectors don't work that way!

Connectors are generally mounted on a flat circuit board, then holes are cut in the back plastic to let the connector poke through to the outside. This means that on one side (the side soldered onto the circuit board) EVERY connector on the back of the machine is lined up.

So if you have a thinner connector such as a mini display port then the bottom side of it will be aligned with the bottom side of the USB and Power ports. The photoshopper did not understand this mechanical issue and instead aligned the two new ports so that their CENTERs matches the USB center.

For an example of this phenomena, check out the images of the back of todays Mac Mini where the DVI port is aligned with all the other ports on the bottom edge. But because the DVI is not as tall as the USB, the tops of the connectors do not align.


My Apple TV looks just the same to me:
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They are not all lined up along one edge. They are all in the middle also. Explain this.
 
Actually, I have attempted to use it on many occasions as its evolved over the years, and in its latest iteration, it is decent. However, if you go into most big box electronics stores, merely mentioning that you are looking for a media center, and you will be directed to higher end PCs with the argument that you need the power to play your media. This experience has also been echoed by many I talk to that are your typical consumers that do not frequent sites like CNET, ExtemeTech, etc. Further, remember a few years ago when PC manufacturers promised to tie our family room to all of the media on our computers? You would be hard pressed to find any close to or below $1,000.00. Many people are unaware that there are some low cost alternatives, such as the Shuttle XPC, which will satisfy many.

Personally, I believe the fact that the MacMini is only marginally higher than something like the Shuttle XPC X200M, has a more mature iteration of Boxee available, and the plus of Apple customer service, it makes for a superior buyer experience.
I'm glad that you took the time to prove your point.

At the low end all that you really need is a computer that can run Windows Vista Home Premium and a TV tuner. If you're willing to skimp then you can easily get a machine that does that for under $400. Even lower then that and it's more than enough to use a Pentium 4 or D.
 
Well form factor is always a big selling point. If not, buy a PC..

First, I'm not convinced in the case of the mini that form factor is the main selling point.

And second, for all the people who want to run OSX on a decent budget machine, "buy a PC" is not an option.
 
You people are hilarious. One photo of some ports, no known specs, no known prices, no known release date, and the complainers have taken over. This despite the fact that they added a USB port and a FW 800 port. Unbelievable.

I'll paraphrase the best post I've ever seen on MR:
"If Jesus himself came back to earth and changed water in to wine, half of macrumors would say, 'eh, it's red. I wanted white.'"
 
There's a strange discoloration that extends all the way from the left-most USB port to the Firewire port.

Also the shadows and focus on the ports look off.
The discolouration is simply caused by the lighting, which is why you will find similar "discolouration" on the right side. The mini casts a shadow which can be seen in the bottom left corner of the picture. This illustrates where the light is coming from and the "reflection" on the aluminium as well as parquet flooring confirms that there must be some sort of lamp off to the right top of the picture.
Shadows and focus on the ports look off, because the whole mini is not properly in focus or just not having set the focus properly (I'm guessing it was taken with a point-and-shoot camera). As you'll notice the edges of the mini itself (especially on the top right, where the case turns towards the floor) are just as out of focus as the ports are.

I'm going with the "it's a prototype" suggestion posted earlier on.
 
interesting how that looks exactly like the photo posted on appleinsider by one of their editors who apparently got it from an inside source, confirming what the same or another inside source told another of their editors like a month ago about the mini being updated. with no date either time of course.
 
Well form factor is always a big selling point. If not, buy a PC..
"buy a PC" , jeez what a lame response.
Buy a PC ?!? what for ? it cannot run OS X legally !..needless to say (or maybe it is?) form factor doesn't really matter all that much, it is a simple fact that the Mini is a reasonably priced machine that runs OS X, ye ye I know the tech is now outdated and overpriced for what it is BUT when it wasn't outdated it was reasonably priced.
"buy a PC" lmao
 
But miniDVI can go backwards to analog standards like VGA.

But so can miniDisplayPort! Why else would Apple be selling a minDisplayPort -> VGA adapter for $29?

I really don't see a reason for both miniDVI and miniDisplayPort as the latter can do all standards miniDVI can do, even VGA - if you want to use that old standard.

But perhaps there's an obscure one that only miniDVI does?
VGA it isn't.
 
Not to sound like a jerk but, after such a long wait I really was expecting a redesign. Something like a cross between a MacMini and an iMac all metal and sexy. But I guess I was wrong... Apple is just slowing down and not meeting my expectations.

Even this machines specs are la la... I mean the biggest thing isn't so much the processor as opposed to the obvious doomed graphics card that was installed in the majority of them. Put one in from the current MacBooks or MacBook Pro's and we're in business. Put the 2Ghz as the low end and high end 2.6Ghz. Allow it to be expanded to 4GB of Ram and the rest is just a line of hungry Apple consumers (and new ones) wanting to buy this little wonder.

The design, I imagined would be a metallic casing, with a black top with the apple logo in white. And maybe if the laws of technology allows, the brag factor of being a few mm's shorter... If Apple could pull this one off, you can bet your left nut, it'd be a big hit.

But again, we're looking at a peripheral/ports expansion and that's just boring.

The last thing that would make me want to buy one because its been over 562 days ago, a freshly installed MacOS X 10.6 (because we can't wait to moan about when MacOS X 10.7 comes out with neural connections and all the insane things we dream of.) ;)

Current state of the MacMini :

Product - Mac mini (I feel really small now)
Recommendation: Don't Buy - Updates soon (no body wants me!!!)
Last Release : August 07, 2007 (Good old days)
Days Since Update : 562 (Avg = 188) (Hello? Anybody?!??!?)
 
Oh Look it's got 3 Mini Display ports now!!!!!!!!!111!!one!!!eleven11twelve
 

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