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This would be wonderful. I have been looking for solution to get more out of my desk space. Although MacBook Pro is great, it takes up early half of the desk. I also wasn't going to spend $500+ on the aging mac mini system. This certainly a great news!!
 
Notice how all the symbols (labeling the ports) are in exactly the same place as the old mini, as can be seen in the comparison photos.
Nothing has moved a millimeter except for new ports have been added, which would be so easy to photoshop on a white surface like that.

I feel the display port at least would have moved a bit, but its still on the 3rd grill from the right.

This is an obvious fake!

But bring on the updates please..

Yes, fake, plus it still has FW and too many USB ports.

I think Apple will want to up-sell users who want FW to the iMac, as they're not really doing too badly in today's economy.

If they do include FW, definitely won't be FW800 and not have that many USB ports.

Will still be $599 since they "don't know how to make a $500 computer"... :eek:

Though, a $499 is possible, but that'll have an Atom processor.

(runs and hides...)
 
That's a good point. FrontRow is so dysfunctional on the mac that its not worth the efforts. My biggest gripe with it ( and there are more than one) is that after all this time that its been shipping on macs one cannot do simple things like categorize movies based on genres or make custom folders. How the heck or you supposed to keep track of a movie collection and use it with front row if it can't do that. I would buy the mini if it worked with frontrow like it should. Also, I can't justify buying an appleTV with the ridiculously small hard drives that they ship with only to be forced to strap on an external hard drive. Seems that apple isn't taking this whole digital hub thing very seriously.

Its pretty easy to change the category....right click and then in the info tab select the genre.
 
5 usb ports is way too excessive for Apple. Just doesnt make any sense given Apple's track record. Plus dont USB controllers always come in pairs?

I seem to have three USB ports on my G5.

I think Apple took away FW on the MacBook because there wasn't room, and added a fifth USB port on this because there was room and a need (assuming the picture is real, which it could easily be).

Remember, Apple doubled the number of USB ports going from the G4 Mini to the Core Duo Mini.

If this is a prototype, perhaps it has a mini-DVI simply because of the availability of the new DP displays amongst the testers? It wouldn't surprise me to see a shipping version with two DP, along with one set of adaptors.
 
You already pretty much can. I hook up my MBP to our TV at home and use Front Row to make it just like an Apple TV. You could use it as both a computer and Apple TV.

Provided you're running Tiger. The AppleTV Front Row theme won't work on Leopard :(
 
I hope this is true...Ill be first in line to pick one of these up...
Hopefully this will come out soon...
 
Let us not forget Apple first marketted the mini to be used under the TV, so don't be surprised when people do that and thus ask for a HDMI port. Not many TV's come with a DVI anymore.

If that's it and it has 5 USB ports and no HDMI then it is a FAIL.

Because HDMI means you can hook it up to a TV, thus play your media without having to convert to other formats.

Does that pass audio?

HDMI isn't needed to connect a Mini to a TV (and display protected content), HDCP is. And HDCP can be supported on DVI and DisplayPort. Apple chose not to support HDCP prior to its move to DisplayPort, but now that the new unibodies support it , there is no reason they couldn't add it to a new Mini without ading HDMI. As far as audio goes, shouldn't you really be running S/PIDF to your audio system and not relying on your TV for sound?

I'm undecided how real this actually is, but I sure hope the next mini can run :apple:TV software on it. No HDMI pretty much indicates that that isn't a priority, but HDMI is only really needed for BluRay. Which simply isn't going to happen.

Otherwise, I can get DVI-HDMI cables, and digital audio cables and get the mini hooked up to my big screen pretty easily.

It's the :apple:TV software that would make this a nice media center. And I can run Safari for Hulu content.

Again, I think HDCP is what's needed for BluRay, not HDMI (then there's the whole protected path in the OS thing that Vista has and Apple would have to add). I know BluRay works from an HDMI-equipped player to a DVI-equipped TV, as long as the TV supports HDCP. So I don't see why the reverse can't happen.

Apple Computer Inc. died in January 2007 the day they introduced the iPhone.

Not to mention when they took "Computer" out of their name :eek:

I love that it comes with Firewire 800, while the MacBook is stuck only with USB. Apparently, Apple has designated the MacMini a 'professionals' device but not the MacBook. Meanwhile, even some cah-cah netbooks come with hig-speed eSATA sockets.

Also, why on God's green earth would you need 5 USB sockets on the MacMini?!! Let's see: 1) printer; 2) iPod/iPhone dock; 3) possible wired keyboard (though if the MacMini is supposed to be minimalist, do you really want a wired keyboard?); 4) possible wired mouse (see 3); and 5) scanner (and that's only if your printer is not multifunction). Besides, in these days of 'living in the cloud,' shouldn't many of these peripherals (i.e. printer, NAS, etc) be on our wireless networks?

This has to be a joke, right? Whoever is responsible should be Steved ASAP.

You just mentioned 5 peripherals ;)
 
The time it has not been updated is ridiculous. So are the people that think it will become cheaper.
 
I hope this is true...Ill be first in line to pick one of these up...
Hopefully this will come out soon...

If any incarnation of FireWire remains, it moves to NVIDIA graphics that will work with Snow Leopard, and has a memory upgrade path beyond the 2 GB of my current Mini I'll be right behind you in line!
 
Hdmi

Jesus Apple. For once, do the right thing.

Put an HDMI port on the Mac Mini.

So what if it might put it in minor contention with the AppleTV? So you lose a few AppleTV sales and you make it up with Mac Mini sales. It's a wash.

Everyone who is fairly technical wants to use this box as a media center. Just put the HDMI port on the box and make them happy.

For once, do what your hard core customers want. Cater to them.
 
Jesus Apple. For once, do the right thing.

Put an HDMI port on the Mac Mini.

So what if it might put it in minor contention with the AppleTV? So you lose a few AppleTV sales and you make it up with Mac Mini sales. It's a wash.

Everyone who is fairly technical wants to use this box as a media center. Just put the HDMI port on the box and make them happy.

For once, do what your hard core customers want. Cater to them.

What if they don't put HDMI but do support HDCP on whatever interface does go in? If it could still do :apple:TV functions but required an HDMI to miniDVI or miniDP cable as well as a separate sound cable, would it still be no good to many of you that want HDMI? I have a feeling some subset of the people who say they want HDMI really just want HDCP so that they can send protected content to their TV. HDCP support is missing on the current Mini, but the unibodies set the precedence that HDCP is now on their computers so it would not be unthinkable that the new Mini could support HDCP as well.
 
HDMI isn't needed to connect a Mini to a TV (and display protected content), HDCP is. And HDCP can be supported on DVI and DisplayPort. Apple chose not to support HDCP prior to its move to DisplayPort, but now that the new unibodies support it , there is no reason they couldn't add it to a new Mini without ading HDMI. As far as audio goes, shouldn't you really be running S/PIDF to your audio system and not relying on your TV for sound?

Again, I think HDCP is what's needed for BluRay, not HDMI (then there's the whole protected path in the OS thing that Vista has and Apple would have to add). I know BluRay works from an HDMI-equipped player to a DVI-equipped TV, as long as the TV supports HDCP. So I don't see why the reverse can't happen.

Good point. You are correct, of course, that HDCP is the hang up. If you have an HDMI port out the back, then you know HDCP is going to work. But it could also work though the mini DisplayPort, mini-DVI, or any other fully digital display technology. Somehow, though, I doubt Apple would deal with HDCP over mini DisplayPort. If it doesn't have an HDMI adapter, it won't do protected content.

But none of it really matters, since HDCP won't happen in OS/X because SJ wants to avoid the whole "protected path" nonsense (which really is ugly) where you are constantly monitoring peripherals that can be added to the system to prevent copying, etc. I think Jobs is hoping Apple can give BR the pass altogether, and simply move to digital movie content without the need for a disc.

I too used to have a TV with only a DVI-I port (no HDMI) but I could hook up a BR player to it using an HDMI -> DVI-I cable. I used a similar cable to hook up a DVI player to an HDMI TV, but that wasn't a BR player so I don't know if any of the HDCP signal would be lost. I doubt it though.
 
I am sure this image is photoshopped, but hopeful it's based on some real facts.

Re: HDMI. I wouldn't mind it being on the new mini, but I personally ~hate~ HDMI and would like to see a better connector.

I have 3 HDMI connectors into my Onkyo receiver, and it doesn't take much to knock them out if I have to reach around and move connectors for anything.

They are OK if you aren't moving anything around. But they who designed HDMI should have offered an optional lock mechanism for those that want or need it.
 
I'm pretty sure that the image posted is a prototype. The updated Mini models will not resemble the current ones as the photo depicts. I'm expecting a black and aluminum finish like the ones we see on the new Apple notebooks.

I will be purchasing either a Mac Mini or a iMac as soon as they're updated.

As for the HDMI argument, I'm pretty sure that Apple will include the HDMI port on higher models of the new Mini's.
 
Good point. You are correct, of course, that HDCP is the hang up. If you have an HDMI port out the back, then you know HDCP is going to work. But it could also work though the mini DisplayPort, mini-DVI, or any other fully digital display technology. Somehow, though, I doubt Apple would deal with HDCP over mini DisplayPort. If it doesn't have an HDMI adapter, it won't do protected content.

But none of it really matters, since HDCP won't happen in OS/X because SJ wants to avoid the whole "protected path" nonsense (which really is ugly) where you are constantly monitoring peripherals that can be added to the system to prevent copying, etc. I think Jobs is hoping Apple can give BR the pass altogether, and simply move to digital movie content without the need for a disc.

I too used to have a TV with only a DVI-I port (no HDMI) but I could hook up a BR player to it using an HDMI -> DVI-I cable. I used a similar cable to hook up a DVI player to an HDMI TV, but that wasn't a BR player so I don't know if any of the HDCP signal would be lost. I doubt it though.

You are right that when you see an HDMI port you know you have HDCP support, since it is a requirement in the HDMI spec.

I remember the story right after the unibodies came out where a teacher was unable to play purchased iTunes shows through a unibody onto a projector even though an older Macbook could play that same content to that same projector. Wasn't the consensus that this was because HDCP was silently added to the unibodies?

I still have a TV with only DVI-I:( (with HDCP, though). I think it will be a long time before that TV gets replaced.
 
What I don't understand is why they don't just slap a blu-ray in it and replace the Apple TV with it. Am I alone???
 
This is what I'm talking about, I need new display's, a top of the line Mini and a new Mac Pro!
 
Not to mention when they took "Computer" out of their name :eek:

That's what I was alluding to.

At the end of the keynote, while everyone was still hopped up on iPhone drama, Steve announced that they were dropping the word Computer out of the name "to reflect our move to a wider stance on electronics".

And people applauded.

"So that is how Apple Computer died... with thunderous applause..." :mad:
 
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